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Title: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: Onestringer on July 03, 2013, 01:27:00 PM
Awesome trail cam pic, that can't be set up.  Look closely at what the coyote is carrying in its mouth.

 (http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k71/onestringer/Web%20Pics/CDY_0140web_zpsae62deaf.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/onestringer/media/Web%20Pics/CDY_0140web_zpsae62deaf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: Doc Nock on July 03, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
Part of the life cycle... but still sad to see a predator take down a new life and prevent it from populating the area.
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Post by: Cherokee Scout on July 03, 2013, 02:02:00 PM
what he is carrying?
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Post by: Danny Rowan on July 03, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
Cannot really tell what he is carrying, could be a fawn?
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Post by: fnshtr on July 03, 2013, 02:40:00 PM
Sure looks like a fawn to me. I can see dew claws and hooves.

I have a doe behind my house that has 3 fawns... twins are pretty typical around here, but triplets seem a bit rare. The doe looks VERY healthy too... unlike some that appear "skin and bone" due to nursing.

Cycle of life is right. For life requires another's death.
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: KentuckyTJ on July 03, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
Definitely a fawn.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/mc9893.jpg)
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on July 03, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
Cool picture. Fawn was most likely sick or something looks good sized. Might even been road kill or something or just slow. They have their place.
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Post by: Izzy on July 03, 2013, 04:08:00 PM
Great pic. Thats what fawns are for in a yotes way of seeing things. They dont remind him of Bambi, just satisfy its drive to feed his young and carry on genetics.
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: on July 03, 2013, 04:45:00 PM
We most definately need to shoot more coyotes.  Around here, the coyotes are outnumbering the deer.  I am starting to hate them.
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Post by: T Lail on July 03, 2013, 05:31:00 PM
wildlife researchers set up cameras on coyote den summer of 2012....momma yote brought a fawn in 19 out of 30 days.......this was in Wilkes county NC......
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: Panzer on July 03, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
That's the way it,s supposed to work. We certainly don,t have a shortage of Whitetails in this country.
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Post by: nineworlds9 on July 03, 2013, 11:35:00 PM
Yeah, but its getting out of hand.  Florida is crawling with Yotes!!  Florida!!!  They are shoot on sight for me here far as Im concerned.  Heard them in the eve while out in the woods yipping.  Haven't seen one yet but found scat.  Thinking of getting some calls and going for them directly.
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: TRAP on July 04, 2013, 01:30:00 AM
It's s in his nature, that's his job.  Just like you feeding your family.  

When coyotes reach a certain population level there are checks and balances in nature such as sarcoptic mange to control overabundance.  

They get a bad rap but they are incredibly adaptive creatures. While humans were successfully eradicating just about everything else at the turn of the century coyote ranges expanded despite the use of explosives, poison, trapping, etc.

Doubt anything you can do is gonna have much impact on a coyote population. Killing one wildlife species just to protect another wildlife species is is an irresponsible use of of a resource.

Haying equipment kills a lot of fawns too but.....

Trap
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Post by: Longbowz on July 04, 2013, 02:05:00 AM
Looks like it's time to do some coyote hunting.  Coyotes don't stop breading until all prey animals like deer are wiped out.  Where I live we used to have a fair population of deer until the coyotes started to take over.  Now there's hardly any deer and way too many coyotes.  I say shoot'm if you get the chance.
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on July 04, 2013, 03:47:00 AM
I think they are pretty safe . If In had to bet on a coyote or a good deer hunter I would bet on the coyote.
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on July 04, 2013, 07:01:00 AM
I think Izzy and Darryl hit the nail on the head.  That coyote is just doing what they are supposed to.  Cant blame him for that.

Its normal to hear of high fawn mortality rates in the spring.  I read just as many fawns die from health issues as they do with predators.  the neat part is, the predators will eat them too.

Its all part of  a beautiful cycle.  I dont feel I should hate the coyote just because I am Jealous of his hunting ability.
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Post by: DWT on July 04, 2013, 08:14:00 AM
Coyotes are some of the most cunning escape artists and use way more reasoning than a dog. Ive hunted them every winter for about 15 yrs and I have killed bunches of them and at one time I hated them also but over time I realized they are as much a part of the landscape of the natural world as any other critter, even as much as a deer or rabbit. I thought we could wipe them out in the beginning bet have found it cant be done. We have killed as many as 66 of them in one winter and the following year it did not seem we had even put a dent in the population, I killed 4 in one day, and have had 3 doubles. We usually kill 35-60 and have for several years and there is always more the next year because if a area has everything they need more will just move in to take over the missing ones area. I have gone to giving some of them a pass as we hunt them and don't hate them like I once did they are beautiful animals in their winter hair and I have grown to respect their ability to survive, now if they just didn't smell so bad.
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Post by: Tim Finley on July 04, 2013, 11:36:00 AM
From our game and fish dept. ,you need to kill 70% of the coyotes for 5 years in a row in order to check the population . I know 2 brothers that kill over 400 coyotes a year and hunt the same areas . Trapping and hunting cant control them only poison and ariel hunting.
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: Panzer on July 04, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
I like having them around. They are a natural part of the environment, and they serve a purpose. I spent most of my life living in Ohio and we had a lot of them around and I always seen plenty of Deer.
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Post by: jwhitetail on July 05, 2013, 03:03:00 AM
TRAP X 2
I grew up with them out here in the west.  That little Yote is just doing his job... industrious, smart, observant and practical.  All of the things that I have tried to be as a hunter for 35 years.  

I have killed a few in my youth but anymore I just hunt the whitetails (like the coyote).

JW
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: 7 Lakes on July 05, 2013, 02:17:00 PM
Lot of little foo foo dogs are disapearing out of the yards here in 7 Lakes.  Had 3 surround my GSP one night.  One held her attention while the other two tried for the hamstrings. I keep the Winchester by the door now.

I still love to hear them yip and run at night.
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Post by: Sean B on July 05, 2013, 02:24:00 PM
Cool Picture.  We have a ton of 'Yotes around here.  Every day walking my dog in my back yard, Id find parts of fawns, a woodchuck face and lots of tracks from coyotes.

Cool thing at work last night, I watched a fox kill a rabbit, and 3 kits came in to feed on it.
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Post by: Hoyt on July 05, 2013, 02:24:00 PM
When I was coming up in the South we never had coyotes..got plenty now.

I've seen quite a few from my tree stands but never shot one..not because I like them, I don't. Just don't want to mess up a deer hunt or see their reaction to being shot. Too much like a dog for me to witness.
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: Onestringer on July 17, 2013, 12:36:00 PM
Posted that pic and went on vacation.  Yep it's a fawn.  I actually trapped 2 coyotes on that farm last winter.  On another farm I hunt I trapped another 10 coyotes.
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: Wudstix on July 17, 2013, 12:44:00 PM
Yotes are very efficient for sure.  In Texas leavig a deer overnight usually ends up with no deer.  Even waying a couple hours has resulted in a coyote dinner.  Also, loose a bunch of dogs and cats in San Antonio city limits due to coyotes.
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Post by: kill shot on July 17, 2013, 01:58:00 PM
We love to hate coyotes.
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Post by: johnnyk71 on July 17, 2013, 02:51:00 PM
they're like most other small mammals. if you put a dent in their numbers, they just increase the number of offspring to make up for the losses. the carrying capacity of the land and competition hold them in check better than hunters can. biggest problem is that we removed all the bigger predators first. they were the coyotes' competition. they've just moved in (albeit at an astonishing rate!) to fill the empty spaces we created.

I took one out last fall to do my part, though. made a beautiful rug.
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Post by: joe ashton on July 17, 2013, 02:58:00 PM
man that coyote won the lottery...
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Post by: ChuckC on July 17, 2013, 07:45:00 PM
Did you guys see the recent you tube of the coyote out west somewhere grabbing someones little dog. .  I think they called it a Chaweenie.  It was caught on a security camera.

 The coyote was carrying it away into the brush. .  until the dog's neighbor friend (a big ol Rotweiller) decided he wanted to play too.  What was the game  . . .  roll the coyote?
ChuckC
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: Kevin Dill on July 18, 2013, 06:08:00 AM
What a dichotomy...

Popular opinion has it that I should like deer and dislike coyotes. After hitting 3 deer in vehicles I feel different. After seeing thousands dead on the road over my life, I feel different. After having deer come in my yard and do hundred of dollars in damage to trees and landscape, I feel different. In terms of adverse impact on human lives and economic losses, the whitetail deer is a far more destructive creature in Ohio than is the coyote. All the coyotes that can breed and reproduce over the past 25 years haven't dragged our deer herd into danger here. Humans are more threat to our deer. Cars wipe out pregnant or nursing does...there goes 2 or 3 deer at once. Coyotes take the small...the young...the weak. That's what they're supposed to do. I think the picture shown is a happy one which demonstrates the natural world doing what it's supposed to do.

Lest you think I'm a lover of 'yotes, think again. I live amongst them out here on a farm, and I have watched them do their work. They are predators...real ones. So are mountain lions, wolves, bobcats, bears and a host of other neat animals. I like them all, but I don't particularly want them in my yard.
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Post by: LookMomNoSights on July 18, 2013, 08:57:00 AM
Ahhhhh......we are blessed to be able to HUNT!!!!...and have animals to HUNT!  Deer, coyotes...and a long list of others.  Thank the Lord for that!  :pray:
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Post by: halfseminole on July 18, 2013, 04:17:00 PM
I hunt coyote more than deer around here.  we have problems with habituated and dangerous coyotes.  We lost three dogs (these were not foo-foo dogs either) and my first self bow has coyote bone tips as a payback.  When they yip and yowl and stay away from our animals and keep from causing my property damage (neighbor has chickens, try to dig under the fence) I'm not going after them.  It's only when they become a menace (like how they will hang out on my front porch in the winter) that I remove a weapon from the wall and do something about it.

I love the balance of nature.  I do not love having to my mother-in-law go on about dead dogs.  If you have a mother-in-law, you know what I mean.
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Post by: Scott357 on July 18, 2013, 04:35:00 PM
I was berry picking a few weeks ago. I had a scrawny coyote follow me through the brush and then it decided to charge me. That mutt was lucky that I am not an old west style quick draw shooter because I had my .357 out pretty quick. My sudden movement must have changed his mind about charging me because it stopped in its tracks and turned and took off without me firing. I used to not care much about them and let them be but after that I may think more about shooting them when I see them
Title: Re: Awesome and Sad trail cam pic
Post by: TRAP on July 18, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
A coyote suffering from sarcoptic mange will usually go blind as the condition worsens. When the mange mites eat the hair follicles around his eyes he has no way to keep infection from getting in his eyes.  This may explain a "scrawny" coyote charging a human sized animal.

Desperate times call desparate measures. Just a thought.

DD