For those of you who use brass nicks, do you use one or two?
I double nock
I use a brass nock for my top nock and tie on the lower nock
Why double nock???
I was wondering if there is some advantage, you see it some. I've always used just one.
3 under= double nock set.
I use one.
QuoteOriginally posted by Widowdoublelung:
3 under= double nock set.
I've been shooting 3 under with a single nock set with no apparent issues. I am new to trad archery though and would like to know why a double nock set would be preferable.
only one, seems to work fine.....
Double nock to prevent the arrow from sliding down your string after release. Solves some tuning issues for some folks. I have seen slow motion clips of this and it is amazing how much it can slip.
QuoteOriginally posted by 4dogs:
Double nock to prevent the arrow from sliding down your string after release. Solves some tuning issues for some folks. I have seen slow motion clips of this and it is amazing how much it can slip.
+1
I use brass nocks to set nock point then tie on both nocks
I quit using brass. They were ripping my gloves
I shoot split finger and use two nock points tied on.
I shoot split and only use one nock point but I hate brass nock points! I always tie on my nocking points. It is so nice to be able to move them around easily without messing with those pliers.
Bisch
Shoot split fingered, one brass nock upper and one lower tied on with dental floss.
"This is a nice bow, but let me tell you something about that second nock..." he said. "This isn't going to do you any good when a deer walks by and you don't have your wits about you. You'll end up nocking the damn arrow beneath the wrong nock and miss the deer completely!"
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Rick Welch shoots 3 under and only uses one tied-on string nock, above the arrow nock. Given his success, both in tournaments and hunting, I wonder if this two nock business is overstated. His arrow nocks fit more snugly on the string than is currently recommended, and he tillers his bows (which he makes himself) so the nocking point can be 1/2 - 5/8", the same general location used by those who shoot split-fingers, which are probably reasons why his arrows don't slip down the string. This also makes me wonder if the current recommendations for loose nock fit might also be overstated, and if it might not be more important than is commonly thought to tiller the bow correctly for 3 under.
I personally use two tied-on nocks, and loose fitting arrow nocks, but I wonder if I really should continue doing that. There have been times in speed shooting contests in tournaments that I'm sure I've gotten less points than I could have because of having to place my arrow nock carefully between the two string nocks, and the point made above about possibly nocking in the wrong place in a pressure situation is probably valid. I probably wouldn't do that, but I would look down to nock, so I might miss my shot opportunity altogether.
I think it behooves us to test every bit of common wisdom that we have the time or inclination to do. Much of what we believe right today will be proved wrong tomorrow. Some of what we believe wrong today will be proven right tomorrow. Rick Welch certainly does like to test things, in many other ways than I have mentioned here, which has been a joy to some and a thorn in the side to others.
4 Dogs video shows why a double nock set is beneficial
Double nock for me. I tree stand hunt and I never nocked the arrow below the lower nock by mistake. My arrow is always nocked while sitting in the stand. I do it so I don't pinch the nock on the arrow. I can keep my finger lower and my arrow will not slip down the string.
I use a single brass nock to make sure my arrows fly right. With brass I can move the nocking point up or down as needed. Once the arrow flies good I remove the brass nocking point and use two dental floss nocking points.
I use a brass nock when tuning and then tie one on when I know exactly where I want it. I have tried the adjustable tie on ones, but they seem to move to much for me, probably the way I tied them. I normally only use one nock, but on short bows, I tie one below as well. The short bows with steep string angle tend to allow the arrow to shift down the string upon my release and the arrow hits the shelf, no matter what I use for brace height. The double nock prevents this. Never had that problem on longer bows which is what I normally shoot.
Nocks slipping down the string can happen after your serving no longer holds your nocks tight enough. After release (doesn't matter if you shoot three under at that point) the nock can slide down the string and it is a tuning nightmare.
I had a bow I was about to pull my hair out one time trying to get tuned and someone on this site suggested I use double nocks. Walla the erratic flight was gone and I got it tuned in a very short amount of time after that.
Needless to say I know use double tied nocks on all my bows.
I agree with TJ, Loose nock fit and double tied on nocking points have solved much of my fine tuning issues. I have a brass nock point on at the moment but only due to a recent tuning session - it's already ripping up my tab, lip and nose on occasion and will be replaced by a tie on shortly.
I shoot split, tie on one nock with floss, nock above (I use a backquiver), have looooooose mercury speed nocks and have moved on to worrying about other aspects of my shooting :-)
Cheers....
Tie on nock with dental floss. Only one and nock the arrow over.
I braid 3 pieces of B-50, then use that to tie on my 1 nock point....shoot split finger. NEVER any problems what so ever! Stays put, but I can also screw it up or down the serving if I need to move it :thumbsup:
What Ric O"Shay says...
Tied on nocks need to be the same diameter or larger than serving. That way they do not cut down in between the serving.
Oh yeah and use a contrasting colored serving material over your strings serving. Handed my bow to a guy at a shoot once to give it a go and he nocked underneath the bottom nock as it was black like the serving and almost blew up my Morrison. Sounded like a bomb went off as the arrow fell at his feet.
QuoteOriginally posted by two4hooking:
I shoot split, tie on one nock with floss, nock above (I use a backquiver), have looooooose mercury speed nocks and have moved on to worrying about other aspects of my shooting :-)
Cheers....
Same here except I use an arrow nock that works well on the string used.
For what it is worth; two of the fellows at my archery club have had brass knocking points removed surgically, one from his bow hand and one from his left cheek just below his eye. Both of these fellows shot compounds so it may not be relevant to stick bows but I tie on my knock sets now.
The one fellow who had it stick in below his eye the surgery was pretty simple. The one is the base of the guys thumb was far more difficult as it had lodged on a tendon.
Regards,
Dan
I would say there is no way they crimped their brass nocks on correctly if they came off. Mine have to be removed with the proper nock tool. I shoot one brass nock, and put the arrow below it. I do use a small round file to remove the ridges left by the crimping tool. I can watch the split in the nock to tell if my string has stretched.
QuoteOriginally posted by Daniel G. Banting:
For what it is worth; two of the fellows at my archery club have had brass knocking points removed surgically, one from his bow hand and one from his left cheek just below his eye. Both of these fellows shot compounds so it may not be relevant to stick bows but I tie on my knock sets now.
The one fellow who had it stick in below his eye the surgery was pretty simple. The one is the base of the guys thumb was far more difficult as it had lodged on a tendon.
Regards,
Dan
Man, 18 years of compound shooting and I never saw that. Of course very few compound shooters use anything other than a loop these days.
QuoteOriginally posted by DarkTimber:
I use a brass nock for my top nock and tie on the lower nock
I use this
I tie one below and one above, shoot split finger. Have always dis-liked brass nocks. Don't want to add the extra weight to my string.
I only offered it up "for what it is worth". I recognized that for some it was going to be worth less than nothing.
I expect that there are some people out there who have never seen a automobile accident................but they do happen.
Regards to all,
Dan
Oh I'm not doubting you at all, just remarking that it must be pretty rare.
Here's how I do mine. Single knot below the arrow nock and double serve above it.
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