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Title: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: USN_Sam1385 on June 29, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
Acquired a 64 Bear Grizzly Recurve in zebra wood about 4 months ago. It was originally from Al Reader's collection. 46 # @ 28". Since then, I haven't even touched my longbow. The recurve is much slower but something about it keeps me from wanting to shoot anything else. Just feels right in my hand...

Anyone else get this way with the old Bear bows???
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: Big Bird on June 29, 2013, 02:31:00 PM
Yep that's all I shoot is old Bears.and have over 50 of them.And last year I killed my doe with my 64 zebra Grizzly.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: damascusdave on June 29, 2013, 02:45:00 PM
I have 9 Bear bows from the 60's and would happily hunt with any of them...just that I have other newer bows that I like better for hunting...my favourite shooter though is my 64 inch 1960 Kodiak...cannot imagine a nicer bow to shoot

DDave
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: woodchucker on June 29, 2013, 04:57:00 PM
There's just something about an old Grizzly.....

I had quite a few of them years ago. In 1996 I bought a 1967 Kodiak Mag and a 1969 Grizzly for my oldest son Kevin. In 2007, I won a 1967 Grizzly at the JLMBH St. Jude's raffle. Killed a spikehorn with it that fall. Now, My youngest son Tyler is hunting with his brother's Grizzly, and I've hunted with my 67 every year since I've won it. I have other "custom" bows... But I rarely if ever shoot them.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: vtmtnman on June 29, 2013, 07:58:00 PM
I have a 75 grizzly that shoots so good for me.Was going to use my 'tip again this year but decided on the old girl instead.Was my first bow to boot.
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Post by: hedgerowhuntr on June 29, 2013, 09:44:00 PM
I had the same thing happen to myself. A recent dive through the dumpsters turned up a very good condition vintage Kodiak Magnum that I can't seem to put down! The more I shoot it the more I want to shoot it, now here's where things get interesting, not only do I enjoy shooting it, but I honestly shoot it pretty good, so now I'm back at the beginning again, wanting to shoot it all the time!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: Widow's Son on June 29, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
I have a 2000 Black Widow MAII hanging on my wall next to my 1969 Bear Super K. As you would guess the old Super K gets shot a lot more than the Widow. I love both bows but there's just something about those old Grayling Bears. One thing that ain't right is that while the Widow cost between $800 and $900 I picked the Bear up at a pawn shop for $50. I actually talked the guy down from $55. The Bear is #45 and 64" long, smooth as silk. Got a complete pass thru on a doe last year using original Bear cedars and razorheads. These bows deserve to be shot and hunted with IMHO.
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Post by: birddogdoc on June 29, 2013, 10:50:00 PM
I like all bows...but can't help being in love with the 60's and 70's Bear bows with my favorite ones being a 1961 & 1967 kmag.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: NIGEL01 on June 30, 2013, 02:10:00 AM
I've shot lots of different custom and vintage bows, but I always go back to my 72 K'Mag.  I did just get a brand new 59' Kodiak, but she's so pretty I'm scared to shoot her.
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Post by: maineac on June 30, 2013, 11:19:00 AM
I got a "61 Kmag this winter and shot it through may.  I enjoyed shooting it and it shot great.  The grip was fantastic and It was plenty fast and powerful after 52 years.  I am shooting another bow to roatate through.  If I get a deer early with the current up to bat, I may pick up the Kmag to see what it will do.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: Blackhawk on June 30, 2013, 11:23:00 AM
After more than 50 years, folks are still appreciating Mr. Bear's bows while others are just now finding out what they have been missing.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: damascusdave on June 30, 2013, 11:24:00 AM
I hunt with a 1960 Kodiak that I paid about a grand for...bows are tools to shoot...not just art forms to look at...that bow will spit a 9 gpp arrow at 185 fps

DDave
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: 59Alaskan on June 30, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
Bear, Pearson, Howatt, Wing, Shakespeare and others all made quality bows that "fit" with a large percentage of archers.  

They fit just as well today as they did then.

Was just out earlier shooting a 1962 Grizzly.  At 40# (good for cold weather tree stand sits) and cream colored limbs she just may make it in a tree stand this winter.
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Post by: stabow on June 30, 2013, 11:51:00 AM
Got to love thows old Bears and the new ones aren't bad either
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Post by: Ric O'Shay on June 30, 2013, 11:43:00 PM
While I have a stable full of longbows that I usually hunt with, but I've decided they will stay home this season and I'm taking my 59' Kodiak Special to the field. I know the K Specials are not as sought after as the other Bear models, but the Special has always occupied a "special" place in my heart. This one is now sporting a new feather rest thanks to Trap. At 64" and 55# @ 28", I don't believe any white tail critter will be able to stand up to it. Now if I can just keep from scratching it.
 (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/bard9l/IMG_1963_zpseda5da69.jpg) (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/bard9l/media/IMG_1963_zpseda5da69.jpg.html)
 (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/bard9l/IMG_1964_zps50565e49.jpg) (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/bard9l/media/IMG_1964_zps50565e49.jpg.html)
 (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/bard9l/IMG_1965_zps39f912b4.jpg) (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/bard9l/media/IMG_1965_zps39f912b4.jpg.html)

My pics don't do it justice, but maybe Fred will go along with me this fall and make things right.

 (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/bard9l/IMG_1966_zps958c2884.jpg) (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/bard9l/media/IMG_1966_zps958c2884.jpg.html)

Danny
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: USN_Sam1385 on June 30, 2013, 11:57:00 PM
Speaking of old bears. What arrow set up have you all found to be favorable? I am currently shooting GT 5575s cut to 29 inches with a 100 gr. Brass insert and 175 gr. Points. Makes for a fairly heavy arrow but tunes to my bow. However, I have noticed that the arrows seem very slow. As I stated, the arrows tune to the bow. I think that I might benefit by going with a 3555 shaft and reducing point weight as well. Would lighten the arrow up significantly...

What have you all found the old recurves seem to favor?? Heavy arrow or lighter? I know speed isnt everything, but maybe im trying too push an arrow that is too heavy for 45 lbs...

thoughts?
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: 59Alaskan on July 01, 2013, 06:42:00 AM
I find 3555's work great with the 45# or so old Bears.

I prefer wood though.

I would think 5575's are spined too heavy for a 45# bow with the shelf cut the way bears typically are.

I do have a 53# Grizzly that highly favors 5575's. I draw over 29" though and still put a fair amount I weight up front.
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Post by: Phil Magistro on July 01, 2013, 07:02:00 AM
I've always had a couple of old Bear bows but, over the past few years, have sold off most of my modern bows and focused on using the Bears.  I hunted last year with a 1960 Kodiak.  This year will likely switch to a takedown.  It's a newer bubinga riser but the limbs are old red tips.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: Ray Lyon on July 01, 2013, 08:12:00 AM
I use a 1971 Super K and a 1962 Kodiak Magnum.  The Kmag is a real sleeper.   Quiet and fast and it's still going strong after 51 years!
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: Ric O'Shay on July 01, 2013, 08:28:00 AM
I shoot only cedar arrows out of my K Special. 55/60 cut at 28.5" bop. They weigh in at 540gr. At just under 10gr/in they are both fast and quiet. Don't have any carbons and not sure I'd want to shoot them if I did.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: Blackhawk on July 01, 2013, 10:33:00 AM
As for arrows, I have used all kinds with the old Bears but seem to favor aluminum.  My 45-50# bows shoot the 1918, 2016, and 2114 just fine with arrow weights coming in at 450-500 gr.  I would not call these heavy arrows...they are just right.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: Phil Magistro on July 01, 2013, 10:38:00 AM
In most of my old and new Bears 45 - 50# I'm shooting GoldTips - 3555 cut 28 1/2" with a 125 grain point.  Also Beman ICS 500 the same.  I'm using fast flight strings on all my bows, old and new.  Performance is significantly improved.  On my 1960 Kodiak at 45# I'm shooting MicroFlite 8's cut 28 1/2" with a 125 screw in point.  That bow still has a B50 string that is just too quiet to change out.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: shirikahn on July 01, 2013, 11:00:00 AM
My k-mag used to swalllow 2219's...even though it was only 50 lbs that arrow used to just smoke out that bow...30 inch long, 3 5 inch feathers, and a 125 grain tip.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: Ray Lyon on July 01, 2013, 11:07:00 AM
I'm using a vintage endless string on my 1962 Kmag which is 45#'s.  I shoot 60-65# 29.5 cedars from that bow 125 grain point.  My 1971 (43#)Super K I'm using #8 yellow Microflite's that are 30" and 125 grain points and a Flemish b-50.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: stagetek on July 01, 2013, 11:16:00 AM
I shoot mine all the time. I may even use my 64" '66 Kodiak as my "go to" bow this season.
Title: Re: Shooting old Bear bows..
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on July 01, 2013, 07:59:00 PM
I love my Old Bears.  I hunt a lot with a 1968 Grizzly but also use a few others.  I shoot my 1960 real well but now thats its getting a new clear coat, I will be afraid of scratching it lol, not to mention the glare.
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Post by: Ron Vought on July 01, 2013, 08:15:00 PM
Lon -

That 1957 Kodiak you sold me is a real shooter with the Beman Centershot carbon arrows cut at 29", 50 grain brass insert and 175 grain point. They weight out at 500 grains. It's becoming my favorite Bear bow in the small collection that I have now.

Ron
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Post by: Tom on July 02, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
Sure that my '67 Tigercat will have some time in the woods this fall. I hunt with mostly older Bears and/or Brownings. They just have a good feel in hand and have done what I need them to.