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Title: Bare shaft question
Post by: Wheels2 on June 13, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
Bare shafts are hitting with the nocks angled to the left of the point.  Weak or heavy spine on the arrows?
Title: Re: Bare shaft question
Post by: awbowman on June 13, 2013, 09:22:00 PM
If you are shooting RIGHT handed, they are weak.

LEFT - Spine is too LIGHT (weak)- need stiffer arrow

RIGHT - Spine is too RIGID (stiff)- need weaker arrow

At least that's the way I remember.  Have been at this less than 3 years, and I hope I'm right .....  or someone taught me wrong
Title: Re: Bare shaft question
Post by: awbowman on June 13, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
Opposite for a left hander
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Post by: The Whittler on June 13, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Are they flying nock left on their way to the target, or are they nock left after they stick into the target.

You need to watch the arrow as it flys to the target.
Title: Re: Bare shaft question
Post by: SS Snuffer on June 13, 2013, 10:03:00 PM
Watch the arrow flight and forget the angle. If your bare shafts hit the same place as your fletched arrows at 20yds. your real close. If you see your bare shaft vearing off to the left your stiff to the right your weak (for  a RH. shooter). Down is nock to high.
Title: Re: Bare shaft question
Post by: Wheels2 on June 14, 2013, 06:52:00 AM
I am not yet skilled enough to shoot bare shafts and fletched arrows together (or any arrows) at 20 yards, thus I must rely upon the arrow flight.
Such results will not yet be reliable.

So far as arrow flight vs arrow angle in the target, I have always found that if an arrow flies tail left on the way to the trget, they is how it will impact, and stick in, the target.
Title: Re: Bare shaft question
Post by: katman on June 14, 2013, 07:26:00 AM
"So far as arrow flight vs arrow angle in the target, I have always found that if an arrow flies tail left on the way to the trget, they is how it will impact, and stick in, the target."

Not always, target inconsistency has an effect.


Try a lighter points and evaluate. If that helps then you can shorten arrow if you want to shoot original point weight.
Title: Re: Bare shaft question
Post by: katman on June 14, 2013, 07:26:00 AM
Title: Re: Bare shaft question
Post by: katman on June 14, 2013, 07:27:00 AM
oops
Title: Re: Bare shaft question
Post by: BAK on June 14, 2013, 07:35:00 AM
It's where they hit as opposed to angle, which can have multiple causes.
Title: Re: Bare shaft question
Post by: Easykeeper on June 14, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Wheels2:
I am not yet skilled enough to shoot bare shafts and fletched arrows together (or any arrows) at 20 yards, thus I must rely upon the arrow flight.
Such results will not yet be reliable.

So far as arrow flight vs arrow angle in the target, I have always found that if an arrow flies tail left on the way to the trget, they is how it will impact, and stick in, the target.
No offense intended, but if you don't have the accuracy or consistency to group arrows at twenty yards yet I wouldn't worry about tuning.  All you really need is something close so you can practice your form.  Shooting bare shafts will drive you crazy, they are very sensitive to any shooter error...one reason they make a good tuning and training tool.

If you want to try tuning, shoot   both bare and fletched shafts together and compare where they group.  It's much easier to read than to try and watch them in flight.  Go to acsbows.com and click on "knowledge base" on the left side of the main page.  The tuning section has some very good information on bare shaft tuning.

Just my opinion, but don't get all worked up over tuning until your form is more solid and consistent and you can group your arrows a little.  You certainly don't need to be an expert archer, but if you can't keep them on a paper plate at 20 yards tuning will be very frustrating for you.