I just received my first single bevel broadheads. Made sure to get left bevel as I am using LW feathers.
But......what exactly would happen if I used right bevel heads?
The arrow would stop rotating on impact...removing the splitting advantage of the single bevels, and potentially reducing the penetration a bit.
Back before I knew better, I mounted RW Grizzlies on some LW fletched arrows. Killed a doe with one but just drifted back to other double-bevel heads. My arrow went in til it hit an off side rib, she ran into a tree and dropped about 40 yards away.
I had a heck of a time sharpening with a file being right handed...
Been there, done that. Could't tell the difference on a deer.
QuoteOriginally posted by Steve Humphrey:
Been there, done that. Could't tell the difference on a deer.
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The arrow turns inside out about five feet out in front of the bow. You'll wake up in the transporter room of Starship Enterprise.
NASA has been experimenting with this.
Guy
I couldn't say it if it wasn't true... right!?
QuoteOriginally posted by Grey Taylor:
The arrow turns inside out about five feet out in front of the bow. You'll wake up in the transporter room of Starship Enterprise.
NASA has been experimenting with this.
Guy
I couldn't say it if it wasn't true... right!?
:biglaugh: Okay here we go! :archer2:
I heard it turns the arrow into a boomerang and can come back and kill the shooter. I read it online so it must be true.
QuoteOriginally posted by threeunder:
I just received my first single bevel broadheads. Made sure to get left bevel as I am using LW feathers.
But......what exactly would happen if I used right bevel heads?
It isn't that it can't kill an animal if fletching and bevel are mismatched.Dr Ed Ashby found in testing that when the fletching and bevel were mismatched,the single bevel was out-penetrated by the double bevel.
Quote:
"If you fail to do this, a double-beveled
'like-broadhead' will out-penetrate the single bevel. Why?
Because, by mixing arrow rotation in flight and that the bevel
induces after the arrow impacts, you've set up a situation where
the arrow not only has to stop it's rotation on impact, it has
to change the direction of rotation and accelerate the
rotational rate in the new direction. That uses up a lot of the
arrow's energy, directly reducing arrow force (momentum)
available for penetration."
It isn't that it won't work,it is that you are setting it up to not work as efficiently as it could.
I sharpen my heads rw single bevel because it's easier and use LW feathers because it's easier...and my arrows blow through game and blow through deer shoulders....so I don't know what I would do if the bevels matched the proper wing.....find my arrow in the next county I guess.. ;)
Absolutely nothing you would even notice.
Yep. Killed a 3 yr. old 170 lb. buck like that once. RW Grizz. LW fletch. Severe quartering away angle. I was down in a ditch and the buck was actually above me. Caught the last rib going in and shattered the offside shoulder. Went about 80 yds. I had no idea I was doing it wrong.
In theroy the braodhead could unscrew in flight and fall off. In reality single bevel broadheads are just something to sell at an inflated price.
I believe the world would continue to turn.. the cold hard steel single bevel will over power the rotation influence of the feathers...
Right bevel alot eaiser for me to sharpen and I've always used left wing feathers. Deer still don't like it much.
This I found googling:
The arrow penetrates poorly and counter-rotates itself back out, while the animal takes off like a scalded cat never to be seen again.
There is theory and there is what actually happens. In theory, the arrow is spinning one way, due to the feathers, until it hits the animal. Once the broadhead starts to sink in, it will induce a spin, the other way. . . So , as above, the spinning of the arrow stops, and starts again going the other way, and you lose some momentum. Now. . in a real life deer, you may not even notice anything. . or you might.
Poke a single bevel (carefully) thru a potato and see what it does as it passes thru. It does that in a deer too.
ChuckC
The thing is that a 700gr arrow acts like a flywheel and the arrow still spins in the same diection all the way through as the small area of a bradhead bevel doesnt have the leverage to stop or reverse an arrows spin......mine always blew threw deer, but so does big snuffers and they leave more blood and shorter tracks. Untill I start shooting elephants I'll use the snuffes and not worry about the bevel............
QuoteOriginally posted by Austin Brown:
Right bevel alot eaiser for me to sharpen and I've always used left wing feathers. Deer still don't like it much.
You must be a lefty, correct? I thought sharpening (I'm a righty) would be easier. Heads still look like I did it on a brick.
heard there is no difference.
I'm a thinking. . .Flywheel or not, it is not the tiny bevel area that is gonna stop the spin as much as the entire blade sticking out at 90 degrees to the spin.
ChuckC
I started out with right wing fletch to right wing Grizzlies when they first came out, because I had a right wing fletcher. We shot a few deer with them, lost none of the deer that we hit and sharpened them like Hill would sharpen them or sharpened them according to package directions. I got tired of that nick on my finger from the right wing feathers, so I got a left wing flecher. The cut on my index finger healed up, finally, I noticed no difference in flight or the penetration on the deer we shot. I did notice that the incoming broahead hole at times, twice, did not have the little turned edge that the exit wound had. When I went to left wing single bevel Hills, I noticed a better blood trail, about the same as I got from Zwickey Deltas. Some of which I sharpened to a hair shaving edge and other times a serrated edge, but I could not tell any difference in the blood trails or the penetration from one sharpening method to the other. Before anyone jumps on me for the serrated edge, there is a difference between being merely rough and keen with a serrated edge. If in doubt, stick with shaving sharp with these or any type of head. But as far as the penetraiton and the fighting wing, my wife shot a nice fat doe that jumped her string with left wing arrow and a right wing file sharpened Grizzly. The arrow skidded on the rear right hip bone enough to leave a cut in it. The arrow stopped burried to wood in the far left scapula. The head cut everything that there was to cut and even with no exit wound the blood trail was short and heavy. I think getting the arrow to fly straight behind the broadhead will get results with any good head.
Might as well do it the right way when the option is there. I've killed them with mismatched spin as well. The correct spin would have made no difference in result...
I'm a righty and I think sharpening the RW Griz is easier.
QuoteOriginally posted by wooddamon1:
QuoteOriginally posted by Austin Brown:
Right bevel alot eaiser for me to sharpen and I've always used left wing feathers. Deer still don't like it much.
You must be a lefty, correct? I thought sharpening (I'm a righty) would be easier. Heads still look like I did it on a brick. [/b]
Nope I'm a righty.