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Title: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 03, 2013, 04:57:00 PM
Has anyone bought one yet and how are they to shoot. I have the urge to get one in 45# and would like to know if they compare to the feel of the older ones.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Ifrit617 on June 03, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
I'm also curious about this.

Jon
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Mississippi bow hunter on June 04, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
I just bought a new super kodiak grayling green and It is great. I have not heard of anybody buying the new super grizzly. I have a buddy that shoots a pretty old grizzly and it shoots hard and he is dang accurate with it.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: JMG on June 04, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
:coffee:  curious myself,,,
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: JMG on June 04, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
I just read the reviews on Cabela's. Here is a link to the reviews on Cabela's.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Archery/Bows/Recurve-Longbows%7C/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/104235480/i/103969080/Bear174-Archery-Fred-Bear-Super-Grizzly-Recurve-Bow/120311 0.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Frecurve-longbows%2F_%2FN-1100007%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_103969080%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104791680%253Bcat104693580%253Bcat104235480&WTz_l=SBC%3B MMcat104791680%3Bcat104693580%3Bcat104235480%3Bcat103969080 (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Archery/Bows/Recurve-Longbows%7C/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/104235480/i/103969080/Bear174-Archery-Fred-Bear-Super-Grizzly-Recurve-Bow/1203110.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Frecurve-longbows%2F_%2FN-1100007%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_103969080%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104791680%253Bcat104693580%253Bcat104235480&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104791680%3Bcat104693580%3Bcat104235480%3Bcat103969080)
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: joe skipp on June 04, 2013, 08:32:00 PM
Unless your hung up on Bear...for about $100 more you can get a "Vanilla" Fedora of all Actionwood that will put the Bear to shame performance wise with bow weights being equal.

With Mike's dacron string my 52# Lefty will shoot faster than quite a few bows 5-6 lbs heavier. Plus your getting a custom bow not production model. Just my 3 cents Jim....
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Guaraci2010 on June 04, 2013, 08:36:00 PM
I have a new Super Grizzly at 50# and love it. I think you won´t be dissapointed. Realy beautiful and great shooter. Never shoot an old one.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 05, 2013, 05:38:00 AM
Joe, I'm hung up on the working man's bow    :archer:   I was shooting both my Grizzly and my sons older super Grizzly and just thought about trying a newer one.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: BigJim on June 05, 2013, 06:48:00 AM
Stone Knife, I have a beautiful super grizzly in 45lbs on the rack. what makes it different from the rest? The riser looks kind of spalted as it did not take all the grey color when it was being dyed. Really adds a special and unique look.

Bigjim
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Bud B. on June 05, 2013, 07:05:00 AM
Love my old ones (2). Haven't shot a new one. I do think the price of the new one is a bit steep, but, if you're into Super Grizzlys then you understand the desire for them. Mine aren't going anywhere.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 05, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
Sent you a PM Jim, I guess I want either the Super Grizzly or just the Grizzly depends on if the grips are the same as my 72 Grizzly.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Red Beastmaster on June 05, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
Unless something changed recently the grips on any Grizzly or Super Kodiak built in the last several years is pretty sucky. The deepest part of the grip is way too low and way too narrow.

You can tell my '72 Grizzly had a little effort put into the grip, it just melts into your hand. The arrow is right down on my knuckle where it is supposed to be. Even though the bow is over 40yrs old it still shoots fantastic.

I handled all the models when the new line came out a few years ago. I saw no improvement in the grips and decided against buying one. I hope the latest bows have better grips, I have not seen any up close yet.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 05, 2013, 02:56:00 PM
I know the fast flight compilable Grizzly's were pretty chunky in the grip area, but I heard the new ones are better made not sure about the Super though.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Ifrit617 on June 05, 2013, 03:20:00 PM
I quite liked the grip on my 2012 grizzly before I sold it. I thought it was very comfy.

Jon
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 05, 2013, 04:42:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ifrit617:
I quite liked the grip on my 2012 grizzly before I sold it. I thought it was very comfy.

Jon
How did it shoot?
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: ron w on June 06, 2013, 11:10:00 AM
My $.02.....I don't think you can compare the old ones with the new ones. If you like everything about the old ones.......find an old one!!   :cool:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 06, 2013, 12:30:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ron w:
My $.02.....I don't think you can compare the old ones with the new ones. If you like everything about the old ones.......find an old one!!    :cool:  
I have an old one, I just wonder why everyone thinks the old ones are better is because the new ones are junk or because of nostalgia? My thought is that the materials and glues of today might just be better and if it's the same bow with better techniques and materials it would seem that a new one would last a lifetime. I love the old ones but I also want to keep an open mind about Bear's new products after all if no one buys them they will quit making them and in the end very few will be shooting Bear.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Bud B. on June 06, 2013, 12:58:00 PM
Talk it over wth Big Jim. Ask him about a return policy?? I think you'll be happy with the bow given the open mind you've adopted.

Old bow = solid wood riser w/red stripe

New bow = action wood riser w/red stripe

Old bow has no riser holes except for stabilizer/bow reel.

New bow has quiver inserts in riser, but not for the kwikee kwiver bracket   :(  

Old bow = flat shelf

New bow = raduised self (I'm pretty sure)
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: dad on June 06, 2013, 01:27:00 PM
My daughter has the New Super Grizzly LH in 45#. Her draw length is 27" and shoots a 1916 with authority. She likes it and shoots it whenever she can. The difference between the standard and the Super one lamb vs two. The riser is heaver and its FF capable.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: ron w on June 06, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
I know that a dealer near me carried Bear bows for years, sold a ton of them. Then when Trad archery started to make a come back and Bear jumped back into it more he stopped selling them because he felt that the quality of the product had taken a turn for the worse. His words not mine, but I did respect his opinion when he was in business, he is now retired.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 06, 2013, 03:55:00 PM
Ron as far as I know Bear came back with the new lineup in 2011 and i heard the quality is better now.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: ron w on June 06, 2013, 09:37:00 PM
I have seen them but never shot a newer one....I hope they are better and that they do well. Just seem a bit pricey for a factory bow......But Martins haven't gotten any cheaper either. I guess it's just the way things are.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Fletcher on June 06, 2013, 09:42:00 PM
If you really want a good shooter, get a 66-67 Griz.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 08, 2013, 06:12:00 AM
:bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: stabow on June 08, 2013, 08:34:00 AM
The new Bears might be pricey to some but are still half the price of a custom bow and still shoots good. The Bear you buy today might be a collector in 25 years....... :)
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: 59Alaskan on June 08, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
Grizzlys are awesome.  Super Grizzlys are smoooooth.  Unfortunately I have only shot the old ones so I can't help you out but it would be fun to find a store with both and shoot them
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: GDW on June 08, 2013, 02:09:00 PM
I'm shooting a 2012 Grizzly and love it...

That said, I have nothing (traditional) to compare it to...  this is my first traditional bow after 14 yrs with compounds.  This "working mans" bow brings a smile that my Matthews could never touch...
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 08, 2013, 05:14:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by GDW:
I'm shooting a 2012 Grizzly and love it...

That said, I have nothing (traditional) to compare it to...  this is my first traditional bow after 14 yrs with compounds.  This "working mans" bow brings a smile that my Matthews could never touch...
What poundage are you shooting?
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Mitch H on June 08, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
I have several older Grizzly`s, a 1960, 1967, 1969, and a 1974 that all get shot fairly regularly. They all shoot good, and when tuned, they shoot better than I will ever be able to make use of.

That said, I have shot the new Grizzly, Super Grizzly, and 1959 replica Kodiak, and the new Super Grizzly sure did impress me.

I am torn between getting a new Super Griz or a 60" longbow to hunt out of a blind with.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: joe skipp on June 08, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Does Larry Marshall know your looking to add to your collection? To think the abuse you give Larry every time he opens up his wallet....   :laughing:    :nono:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: skychief on June 08, 2013, 11:10:00 PM
Stone Knife, I shot the new Bear bows at Cloverdale as they had a booth there.

Bows shot included the Grizzly, Super Grizzly, Kodiak, Kodiak Mag, Super 48 and two of their longbows.

Several shots through each at my leisure.

I should say that I have shot a mid 70's Grizzly the last couple of years.

To say that I was impressed would be an understatement!    The quality is back in the Bear lineup.   I would consider the Grizzly a bargain at it's price point.

BTW, the Kodiak turned a lot of heads and I listened to others at the practice bags bragging that bow up.   It is a LOOKER for sure.   Still, I would feel real comfortable choosing either Grizzly over it (I liked the way they shot better....less handshock).

I picked up a custom longbow from Striker bows for a lot more money, so that you know I am not a penny pincher when it comes to bows.

I would tell you to not hesitate if you are concerned about a lack of quality or shootability in the Grizzlys.   Matter of fact, I see one in my future real soon.

Good luck, Skychief.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 09, 2013, 05:53:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by skychief:
Stone Knife, I shot the new Bear bows at Cloverdale as they had a booth there.

Bows shot included the Grizzly, Super Grizzly, Kodiak, Kodiak Mag, Super 48 and two of their longbows.

Several shots through each at my leisure.

I should say that I have shot a mid 70's Grizzly the last couple of years.  
To say that I was impressed would be an understatement!    The quality is back in the Bear lineup.   I would consider the Grizzly a bargain at it's price point.

BTW, the Kodiak turned a lot of heads and I listened to others at the practice bags bragging that bow up.   It is a LOOKER for sure.   Still, I would feel real comfortable choosing either Grizzly over it (I liked the way they shot better....less handshock).

I picked up a custom longbow from Striker bows for a lot more money, so that you know I am not a penny pincher when it comes to bows.

I would tell you to not hesitate if you are concerned about a lack of quality or shootability in the Grizzlys.   Matter of fact, I see one in my future real soon.

Good luck, Skychief.
Thanks for the input, I pulled the trigger last night and ordered a Grizzly. I can't wait to shoot it    :archer:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: wooddamon1 on June 09, 2013, 09:21:00 AM
I've owned a mid-70s and a mid-2000s, both were 45# at 28", standard. Both good shooters, identical grips. If I get another newer one, it will be the dark brown/reddish riser standard model.

Older one:

 (http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3060.jpg) (http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/MrDwood/media/DSCN3060.jpg.html)

Newer one:

 (http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN1246-1.jpg) (http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/MrDwood/media/DSCN1246-1.jpg.html)

I think you'll be happy with yours.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 09, 2013, 12:30:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by joe skipp:
Does Larry Marshall know your looking to add to your collection? To think the abuse you give Larry every time he opens up his wallet....    :readit:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 09, 2013, 12:32:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by wooddamon1:
I've owned a mid-70s and a mid-2000s, both were 45# at 28", standard. Both good shooters, identical grips. If I get another newer one, it will be the dark brown/reddish riser standard model.

Older one:

  (http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3060.jpg) (http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/MrDwood/media/DSCN3060.jpg.html)

Newer one:

  (http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN1246-1.jpg) (http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/MrDwood/media/DSCN1246-1.jpg.html)

I think you'll be happy with yours.
My older Grizzly looks identical to the one you have, great shooters.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: SARarcher on June 09, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
The new 2013 super grizzlys are solid black maple, the 2011-2012 models were dymandwood
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Bud B. on June 09, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by SARarcher:
The new 2013 super grizzlys are solid black maple, the 2011-2012 models were dymandwood
Solid maple? No lams in the riser? That has my interest....

:)
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Mitch H on June 09, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bud B.:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by SARarcher:
The new 2013 super grizzlys are solid black maple, the 2011-2012 models were dymandwood
Solid maple? No lams in the riser? That has my interest....

 :)  [/b]
http://www.beararcheryproducts.com/bows/traditional/super-grizzly
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: longrifle on June 09, 2013, 09:58:00 PM
From the looks of the catalog they still are black dymonwood laminate not solid black maple.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Wannabe1 on June 09, 2013, 10:36:00 PM
Wish I could find one of those green ones in a 40# weight that didn't have a bunch of holes drilled or filled! Seems like all the ones I find have been bored and poured.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Bud B. on June 09, 2013, 10:40:00 PM
Yeah, the new ones look laminated. My two old ones aren't  :)
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: GDW on June 10, 2013, 08:32:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Stone Knife:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by GDW:
I'm shooting a 2012 Grizzly and love it...

That said, I have nothing (traditional) to compare it to...  this is my first traditional bow after 14 yrs with compounds.  This "working mans" bow brings a smile that my Matthews could never touch...
What poundage are you shooting? [/b]
50#...   was initially going to go with 45, I shot both (45 & 50 #) and went with the 50...  Now I'm considering picking up a 55#er.  I'm also eyeballin' a LB, I really like what I'm seeing and hearing about the Bama bows..
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 10, 2013, 12:44:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Wannabe1:
Wish I could find one of those green ones in a 40# weight that didn't have a bunch of holes drilled or filled! Seems like all the ones I find have been bored and poured.    :rolleyes:  
I have a green super Grizzly 40# but I'll never sell it cause it's going to be my go to bow when I get too old to pull back the 45# Then I have a 35# for my golden years   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Wannabe1 on June 10, 2013, 01:28:00 PM
I hear ya Jim. I'd take one in 45#s if I could find one when I've got money to burn.   :D
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 16, 2013, 05:53:00 PM
I don't have any pics yet but my new Grizzly arrived last wed. I decided to go with just the regular grizzly because I wanted to keep with the feel of my old 72. After a little shooting and playing with brace height my 45@ 28" is liking 1916 Alum. That makes me happy because I have been wanting to hunt with some Alum. arrows for some time,topped with a Bear razor head they are shooting great. I'm pleased with the looks of the bow and also the quality, I was a little apprehensive at first to buy a new Bear but my fears have turned to elation.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: joe skipp on June 16, 2013, 06:02:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Wannabe1 on June 16, 2013, 06:30:00 PM
Jim, if I can get my Harrelson sold, I am going to try and get a 40# Grizzly. Glad to hear that you are liking yours.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: DamselflyFarm on June 16, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
I shoot a 2012 Grizzly and really like it. The grip fits my hand nicely, the the shot is very smooth. No stacking or shock. I'm very pleased with my decision to purchase this bow.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Wannabe1 on June 17, 2013, 02:38:00 PM
Well, didn't get a Griz! Instead, I ended up with an early '70's model Kodiak Hunter. It looks to be in excellent condition and I can hardly wait to shoot it.   :D
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Stone Knife on June 17, 2013, 05:45:00 PM
They are a nice bow   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: Andrei101 on August 07, 2013, 03:19:00 AM
Mine shoots really nice lately. I took of the string silencers and put some velcro on the tips below the string. I use a high grip and the bow tilts by itself perfectly. Had a great time this year shooting with my nephew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=razWMe5I36A
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: popseal on March 01, 2017, 10:21:00 PM
I bought a new 50# Super Grizzly (3Rivers) and liked it OK.   I'm new to trad' archery.   Bad form and poor conditioning got me a cortisone shot in the shoulder and three months rehab'.  It's been a year and now I'm able to shoot 75 arrows a day without injury.   During that time I acquired a 1972 45X# Grizzly.   I like them equally as shooters, but the black finish of the SG is more my taste.   String differences and arrow weight has a big effect and I believe it's an 'emotional' thing more than a physical one.  Like so much of trad-archery, it's personal.   Have confidence in your choice and ignore ney sayers.
Title: Re: New Super Grizzly or Grizzly ?
Post by: crazynate on March 02, 2017, 07:01:00 AM
i love my super grizzly. I own one me in 50# and I do lots of testing to compare my bows. My super grizzly  shoots only 5fps slower than my bob lee my predator 2 great plains bows. The bow in my opinion doesn't have to much hand shock and can be silenced pretty easily. It's easy to tune and has a great grip. I love mine a lot and wouldn't hesitate buying another.  It may not have all the fancy woods like custom bows but Bears shoot just as good as all of them and better than some.