Who uses the Simmons heads as a 4 blade? What do you think about them as a 4 blade?
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i've been wondering about these heads too Gen, apparently there isn't much input though...
I shot the older simmons 160s and the bleeders were effective how ever they were quite thin and would typically shear off after a shot so they had to be replaced. I normally shoot both the 160s and the 190 grain interceptors without the bleeders and love them.
thanks guys, anyone else?
I am going to try the interceptors as a 4 blade this season. I am a big 4 blade fan. But if I was going to shot a 2 blade it would be a treeshark. The bigger the cut the better is what I say.
I have not shot the 4 blades, but I do know Dave redesigned the bleeders within the last couple of years. They are supposed to lock in better than the old ones.
I've been shooting the Tigershark 4 blade. Have shot one deer and one turkey with them. My shot on the deer was low. The main blade went in horizontal and the bleeder nicked the bottom of the heart. I don't think I would have recovered that deer without the bleeders. On both shots the bleeders came out and I never found them. When I practice I leave the bleeders out as I don't want them to come off in my target. The heads fly great for me with no planing.
I shot the big treeshark as a 4 blade and 2 blade. I didn't notice a difference in the blood trails so I stopped using the bleeder blade. The bleeder blade never locked in very well anyway and generally ended up mangled even on rib hits. I too have heard the bleeder was re designed and locks in better now
I forgot to add that I got some treesharks the other day and its amazing that a head that big can fly like a dart. Very impressed
I killed around 20 deer with the bleeders in the 160's and a whole lot more without them. I can't tell any difference so I quit using them. LCH
I got some sharks this season for turkeys. I shot them both with and without the bleeders, and they flew great. I'm not sure if I got some of the older ones or not, but after a few shots, the bleeders came out when pulling from the target. I didn't bother to put them back in. Sorry, no experience on game yet.
On a side note, does anyone know if these heads are easily sharpened by the KME knife aharpener? Not the broadhead sharpener but the original knife version with the clamp and all?
When I saw the title to this thread I didn't picture bleeders, I pictured a full size 4 blade Simmons head. Now that would be something. Quite a hole, the blood would just fall out.
I have some of the 175 grain Tigers I got a few months ago and I really like them....and yes, they are 4 blades and being a 4 blade Z Delta fan for decades I thought I'd give these a try.....bleeders a little bigger and a well built head.
Haven't shot anything with one yet...but I expect the same results as I've gotten with the Zs but maybe even a little more blood..
Kamm... while you can use the KME knife sharpener the concave profile of the Simmons tends to put a lot of wear on the outside edges of the stones and really isn't very efficient.
I know there are a couple of guys that have rigged round or half round files to rods for the purpose.
I use an accusharp for the mains...and a small tooth fill for the bleeders.
Thanks guys, I have killed a few deer with the 165 Landshark. But I am going to try the interceptor as 4 blade this year.
4 blade interceptor makes a heck of a cut. RC
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Now that's a great pic RC.
I shot them last year. I shot two of the four deer I killed last year with them. I shot both with the bleeders. The first one was broadside, pass through short blood trail that color blind guys could track at a trot. No damage to the head. The second was a steep angle quartered away. Broke the last rib high and lodged in the shoulder joint below the shoulder blade. No blood trail due to the lack of exit wound and high entry. She went about 100 yards on a dead run. The bleeder blade was missing but otherwise no damage, still sharp. I love the Sharks. I have had other heads damaged from the same shot. I had a Stinger brake at the ferrule on the same shot angle.
Chris
Sharks are the primary broadhead I have shot for the last 15 years. I tried some others along the way and they do OK but Simmon's have always out performed the others. When I first started shooting Trad bows I was a less than mediocure shot. Several times I found deer that I don't think I would have found if I had been using different heads. They tune great, shoot great, leave big holes, and kill critters 2 or 4 bladed. Just what I have seen. LCH
Wow Robert, what a hole! Great picture.