Would like some advise on what type of compass to get and why, be it map or lansatic. I understand the basic use of one, but am lacking in actual hands on practice, but intend to change that. So I am looking to get a good compass that I can rely on to work. So if you want to recommend some specific models that are good, that would be great too!
There's lots of good compasses out there. It really depends on how much you want to spend. I have a Silva Ranger that I bought back in my serious canoecamping days. Now I have a smaller Silva that I carry in my backpack. 99% of the time I'm using my pin-on compass, the "little ball" kind, that stays right on my backpack strap. That usually keeps me headed in the right direction.
I've used silva compases in the past but am currently using a Brunton map compass that has the adjustable declination for easier map use.
This is from their website:
3.9"x2.5"x0.8"
3 oz
Declination adjustable
2° graduations
Luminous points
Protective cover with sighting mirror
Clinometer
1:24k, 1:25k & 1:50k meter scales
Works pretty well for me. dino
I still have my ORIGINAL Boy Scouts of America Compass. Been working great for around 40 years or so.I beleive it's a Silva.
Brunton 54LU. It's a baseplate compass.
A wise investment. Best one I've ever used.
4.9"x2.4"x.6"
1.4 oz.
1° graduations
Direct sighting compass
1:25k, 1:63.36k, 1:50km scales
Luminous points
Map magnifier
Lanyard
Silva 'original BSA' box and instruction paper, 40 plus yrs old. Only compass I've ever had and its what I still use
Rusty
Ask what you want to do with a compass.
Do you want to navigate by Topo map and compass?
Want to see it at night w/ out a flashlight?
Want to see individual compass degrees for precise travel?
Want it rugged?
Then you want a Cammenga Lensatic compass. What our military used before there was GPS. I promise, you will not be disappointed.
http://www.cammenga.com/
The only compass I know of with radioactive light generating tritium dial to see at night. Stout navigation equipment, not the yuppie kind of girlscout compass sold in the big box stores.
:wavey:
Thing is though there's more to land navigation than buying a good compass. Navigation by map and compass is becoming a lost skill. I know of almost noone anymore who knows the length of his stride or counts his steps or keeps track of those steps w/ beads on a string.
Land navigation over vast tracks of land, like out west or the far north is much different than hunting whitetails out in the lower forty where you plan to be back in time for dinner.
i have a silva system type 7 allways in my first aid kit. its a good compass direction finding with the silva system is easy as pie. before ya start on ya way place the compass on ya map with the baseplate edge connecting where you are and were ya want to go. then turn the compass dial until the N points to the magnetic North on the map. then hold the compass level in front of you with the direction of travel arrow pointing streight ahead. then turn ya body until the red neddle is directly over the orienting arrow pointing to the N on the dial. the direction arrow now points to your destination. look up sight on a land mark and walk to it. keep doing this until you reach your destination. to find ya way back simply point the direction arrow toward ya an backtrack. easy as pie :thumbsup:
I'll second what Mike said. Been using one (the same one) most of my life. It's been all over the world ... and I still found my way home! Hands down, its the best. I've only been using a GPS a few years, and they were great in Africa for marking a downed animal's location, returning to the vehicle and driving back to where the animal could be loaded up, but ... if my life depends on it, I'd rather have on my compass!
Ed :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
First, I agree with VTer. Get one of the pin on ball ones and keep it on your pack or bino strap. That just helps keep you aware at all times you general direction - keeps you oriented - especially helpful on overcast days. Easy to lose your sense of direction. I like the baseplate type Silva for a good compass at a decent price for map work. Or try the lensatic types to see what works for you. But the pin on for sure...but don't pin it on your bow arm side - could catch the string.
Chris,
I have a Pyser SGI compass from England. Generally referred to as a British marching compass, it is a lensatic compass with tritium dials (fully useful night or day) and is one of the standards by which most other compass's are judged. Refer to the link below for a much better discussion:
http://kifaru.net/compass1.htm
Have a successful season this year, and give Brier a hug for a dad whose baby girl is now all grown up!
John
Will do John!! Hope you have a good season!
Chris
Mike, thanks, that CAMMENGA TRITIUM WRIST COMPASS needs to come to NC.
Also enjoyed your link, John. :thumbsup:
Cammenga. Can't beat one.
I have a lensatic in my pocket, a Silva in my pack or map pocket, a globe style pin-on on the front of my coat/jacket/shirt, and a zipper pull one on the zipper of my pack. That way when the first one lies about where north is I can verify it with the other three. You all ever had a compass lie to you when you positively knew north was "thataway"? :)
I have had 3 compasses reverse polarity on me getting me lost preety well all 3 times. Kept buying more expensive compasses till I read the INSTRUCTIONS!!!!! I had forgot that my money clip used a magnet to hold it together.Money clip and compass occupied the same pocket. Money clip now resides in unnamed canyon and my compass the last new one, continues to work correctly and I'm not getting lost any more. Frank
just a quick word of caution about those cheap little ball ones that are sold. I had one that the "key" ckip caused field errors in the reading. Took that off and hung it wath some parachute cord, and all was better.
You do get what you pay for.....
Want a simple, small, yet durable one, check out the Marble (spelling?) - sold through 3-R - a sponsor here. Want more, there are some great ones mentioned here.
Just having one isn't enough. Learn to use it.
Even when I was in the service I kept my issue lensatic in the rucksack and used a basic Silva for orienteering (even used it orienteering in the Empire State Games years ago).
You also need a map of the area you're in and a protractor.
I use a Silva, unless heading way back in, then the old military lensatic. It's a little slower, but more precise. You can take a bearing on an exact degree and sight on a distant object at the same time.
As a side note:
All my armguards and hunting quivers have a good quality small compass attached. I repeat: good quality. The little cheapies will bind and freeze up in cold weather.
Good to see some real military lensatic compass users! Too many cheap copycats out there. Good to see others using quality equipment like Rangers and the like.
Mike, do you have a source on military grid maps? I have a source in San Antonio, TX for topos which I make do with but I would appreciate your input, could be a new thread!
I have done alot of Land Navigation both in the Marine Corps and out. For the money, a military Lensatic compass is worth it. I know price is alot higher (70.00), but will last your lifetime.
This Trad Gang never ceases to amaze me. I am always learning stuff here....John Havard just taught me that The Brits make a more accurate version of my Cammenga compass. I never knew...not that I'll run out an Buy a Marching compass, but the knowledge is power. Thanks John.
Ron, the best source I know of for topos is the US Government's US Geological Survey maps. I usually order them out of Denver. Start out by requesting a grid map of the state you're interested in, then identify which sheet you need from the grid. Order the individual sheets by name based upon the state grid map. I have a phone number (rolodex at work, sorry) for the good folks in Denver. You''ll want to speak directly with the clerks and tell them you want a Mil Grid map. They offer the maps both ways as civilian and military versions. Of course the 7 1/2 minute maps offer the best compromise between perspective and detail. Although they are paper the quality of detail seems best w/ the gov maps over the commercially made plastic maps. I'll usually waterproof my maps with Aqua seal before leaving home.
GPS almost led my unit into a platoon of Iraqi tanks during desert storm. Oil well smoke had visibility to about 100 yards. Good thing another Marine was keeping track of his "pace count" via the odometer in his vehicle and our direction with a lensatic compass.
He had to argue with the whizkid Sgt. running the gps that we had gone far enough. It was then that the Iraqi tanks started blowing up about 1000 meters ahead of us courtesy of our own tankers who could see them in their thermal sights.
Land navigation skills combined with a good compass CAN save your life. No batteries to run down either LOL!