Hi all, completely new to bowfishing, just getting outfitted. Today's installment of stupid questions is in the category of bow selection and specifically AMO length.
Decided I can't bare to drill into any vintage trad bows, and don't really want to mess around with AMS's rubber strap Traditional Mount adapter thing, and so am looking at bows with site bushings pre-drilled so I can mount an AMS Retriever.
I know bowfishing is rough on bows, so I don't want to spend much. I'd go with a used beater if it had bushings and looked safe, but so far, that seems rare. Both the Samick Sage and Martin Jaguar seem like good options - both come ready to mount a retriever, and I thought the Jaguar's aluminum riser might hold up to water/abuse better - is this sound thinking?
I would also think a shorter AMO would work better in a boat, or hip-deep water, no?? Not like stacking will be a problem with the light draw weight I'll be using...
So, with an AMOs of 62" and 60" for the Sage and Jaguar respectively, isn't that a little long to be ideal for bowfishing? :scared:
If I were to go with the Sage or Rebel, i.e. a wood riser, would folks recommend a light sanding and then adding a coat of polyurethane clearcoat to give it some added water resistance? Anyone do anything like this with a wood recurve for bowfishing?
Okay, if you've gotten this far, you're either exceedingly patient, or probably have too much downtime... :p
Seriously, thanks in advance for any advice given - I rarely post here, but have learned volumes lurking here over the years! :notworthy:
Thanks and stay tuned for more stupid questions as I wade in...( and lookout Potomac Snakeheads!!)
You can use whatever I use a 58" grizzly and my buddy uses a 62 or 64" longbow. Both do the trick, bows can take a beating but the AMS strap on adapter works very well, I have one on my Grizzly.
I love using a martin rebel recurve. 52" AMO with riser inserts and a stabilizer insert in the bow. they don't make them anymore but you can find them on the classifieds. They only made them up to 50# @ 28. Mine works great with my AMS pro reel. I really like the short length when you have two or three guys fishing on the front deck of the boat.
I just got some finish from Big Jim's and was going to add some finish to the rebel. My buddy has been using a rebel for a few years and it hasn't had any problems. I would just rough the finish and then spray the bow. Sanding can mess with tiller and the weight of the bow.
I have 2 Rebels, and as said, they do have the inserts for sights/AMS reels.
That said, I have a 50 lb. Rebel that I may interested in selling.
I use the AMS reel strapped to a 60" Super Kodiak. It works very well.
I think if you give it a try you'll like it.
My backup is a K-Mag with the plate type line holder in the stabilizer bushing.
Hoyt kingfisher is an option, don't know if any of the sponsors sell them or not.
3River has a few packages to check out as well. I went with the Kingfisher package and it was very reasonable at $139.00 on sale. It shoots well and it does the job and I bought it to take abuse as well. Now as smooth as the nice custom bows obviously but it works well for me.
Adam
Only problem I have with the Kingfisher is the weight. That thing gets heavy after a couple of hours. LOL
I have been at this bowfishing game for 35 years and I have used every single bow you could imagine. Lots of good points made in this thread but I would say that a 52 inch recurve is the perfect bowfishing bow. As mentioned above when you are shooting 2-3 people from the front of a boat a 50"-52" recurve is a big deal. Keep the bow as light as possible and you will be happy after 3-5 hours on the water.
The biggest benefit on the short bows is that you can set the botton limb tip on your upper thigh between shots and totally take the stress of your bow arm.
Use what ever you can find that fits your budget. You can always install your own bushing, that's what I did on my longbow. The bushings are available through most of the vendors.
I knew I'd get great replies, and I wasn't disappointed! I've heard nothing but good things about the strap-on adapter, and I might go that route with a Bear Kodiak Magnum I've got if I'm unable to find a cheapy Rebel soon.
Thanks again everybody, and if anyone wants to try to whack some snakeheads on the Potomac this summer, gimme a shout!
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Watch yardsales and craigslist for old ben pearson bows.You can find them very cheap a lot of times and most of them will be shorter bows.The only thing with them is,,they often shoot so well its hard to mess them up even though you didnt pay much for them.
@ Kituwa, Right, that's the problem I'm having with both the bow I now have now that would work (a Kodiak Magnum, 45#, AMO: 52"), and ones I typically look at on CL and The Auction Site - I just don't want to mess 'em up drilling in bushings, or even bowfishing (knowing how rough it'll be on 'em), unless I find one that's already a beater, short enough and with a 40-47# draw.
UPDATE: just got out bid on that auction site on a clean, used Rebel that went for under $130. Damn. I was close, but that only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
I know I wanna go with an AMS retriever, so the Bear's stabilizer bushing does me no good. I also really would prefer not to also use the strap-on adapter - I believe everyone that says they work great... I'd just prefer the solid feel and clean look of screwing in to a factory-drilled bushing.
I shoulda went large and got that Rebel with a higher bid. If I don't score something soon, I may just go the strap-on route with that Kodiak, and try to keep her from getting too beat up... Thanks for the input everyone!
Buy a beater and drill it out for bushings, I did it to a Redwing hunter for my son and it only takes a few min. to do.
The AMS rubber strap-on adapter really works great. I use one on my 56" Browning Wasp with a Zebco 808 but I have also used the adapter with my AMS Retriever reel as well.
Used Kodiak Magnum with a bushing pre-installed would be my choice. I'm looking for one right now for the same reason, to put together my first bowfishing rig.
I have an old '70 Bear Grizz beater I drilled and put a stabilizer insert and simple spool reel on.Works just fine and I've killed a pile of carp with it.Just took 8 the other morning.Keep it simple.
Thanks, and I'm looking!
@ Pokerdaddy & J.,
Thanks. Ideally I'd get a bow with sight mounts so I could use an AMS Retriever, but if I don't soon, I may just go that Bear route until I do.
After all, I have a Kodiak Magnum of only 52" and 45# - a little heavier than I'd probably choose for bowfishing, but close - and it already has a stabilizer bushing. I'll have arrows in a few days, and a spool reel is certainly more affordable. I have a foolish attachment to that Bear - it was my first real bow - but at least until I find a cheap Rebel or something, I could at least fish soon!
So, short term, looks like the Magnum and either a front-mounted spool, or an AMS plus adapter.
Meanwhile, the Snakeheads are just feasting on native bass, perch, amphibians, small children... >:-( GIT 'EM!!
Thanks!
45# is what I use, not too heavy at all matter of fact I would like a little more weight to cast that heavy fishing arrow for the deeper fish. If you wait to long you will miss the best fishing.
My main fishing bow is a 70's vintage 58" Bear Grizzly that I drilled and put inserts in for an AMS Retreiver. My backup is a 54" Wing T'bird with a push button reel. There are many older 52" bows that make great fishing bows, too.
Save your pristine vintage bows, but it's pretty easy to find a bow that already has some holes drilled so a couple more for inserts won't matter.
Unless you already have an AMS reel don't count out the Zebco 808 or Muzzy bowfisher reels, the Zebco is cheaper than a AMS and more user friendly IMO. PM me if you need more info.
Steve