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Title: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Tyler2045 on May 13, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
I wanted to warn all to be on the watch for ticks, I know you should for Lyme disease any way, but there is a new syndrome call Alpha Gal. It is passes threw ticks, and it causes food allergies to meat. A friend has it and he can no longer eat any red meat or pig, the only meats he can now eat are fowl and seafood. This is a serious concern for hunters and outdoors men to be on the watch for. Here is a lick to give you more information about the syndrome.  http://earthsky.org/human-world/ticks-cause-meat-allergies-really
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: rbcorbitt on May 13, 2013, 08:06:00 PM
A local game warden was infected with this.  It took a while for the Doctors to determine what the problem was.

Hate those blood suckers    :mad:   !
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Phrogdrvr on May 13, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
Ticks are crazy bad out my way, so far this year.

Tom
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Bud B. on May 13, 2013, 08:11:00 PM
I have a mark on my leg from last August that still hasn't completely healed. Small deer tick was the culprit. Already pulled two off ths year that were attached.

I HATE them, and chiggers!!
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Tyler2045 on May 13, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
This can cause any allergic reaction strong enough to kill you. Any you would not be able to eat the deer, and pig that we so love to hunt.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: nineworlds9 on May 13, 2013, 10:13:00 PM
I got chiggers on my first hunt of the season last year hunting in a swamp hammock so bad I wanted to die.  Never again!  I seriously almost lost my mind it itched so bad.  I fear chiggers worse than ticks now.  Always shower thoroughly after the woods and scrub scrub scrub!
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: D on May 13, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
I got lyme disease last year.  Its no fun at all.  I can't imagine not being able to eat red meat.  I can't stand freaking ticks and chiggers.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: old_goat2 on May 13, 2013, 11:40:00 PM
that would really really suck! Does anybody think ticks are worse now than say 35 or 40 years ago, I used to stay the summers in Kansas with my grandparents and cousins, I only remember getting ticks on me twice and was in the fields from dusk to dawn, now when I go back there turkey hunting, I will get a couple a day  or more if I don't treat with repellentt of some kind,
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Dale in Pa on May 14, 2013, 08:16:00 AM
Here in Pa where I live there were no ticks around when I grew up (50 yrs ago) Now they're everywhere.

I see the same thing happening upstate. There were never any ticks in Potter Co,now we are starting to find a few. I think they're slowly spreading north.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: wvtradbow on May 14, 2013, 08:23:00 AM
A good friend of mine came down with something like this a couple years ago,I'm not sure he knows how this came about,but I'm going to pass it on...Thanks
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: joe ashton on May 14, 2013, 09:58:00 AM
what was Noah  thinking when he let ticks on the ark? (and snakes and mosquitoes)
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: USMC0311 on May 14, 2013, 11:38:00 AM
If you dont already you need to start using Sawyer tick spray. Me and my gf used it this weekend never found a tick on us. My brother did not use it and had about 20 on him.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: SlowBowinMO on May 14, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
I like Permanone (permethrin) but it is harder to find than it used to be.  Is that what is in the Sawyer's?
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Jon Stewart on May 14, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Ticks are really bad in parts of Michigan already.

USMC 0311, where do you buy Sawyer tick spray.  can't say I have ever seen it around.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: manitou1 on May 14, 2013, 12:29:00 PM
Another danged disease from those pests!

I've said it before on here... but just to remind all, I had a tick give me blood poisoning a few years back.  It almost killed me...literally.

You can buy Permetrin at any farm supply store and online.  Some makes are petroleum based and some are nearly scent free... and virtually scent free when dry.  They are a plant based formula that is supposed to be harmless to humans.  It will kill a cat when wet (hint, hint ;-)
It is a WHOLE LOT cheaper buying in bulk and mixing it.  You want the 10% and then mix with water... I can't remember the ratio, but it can be found online.
Permethrin is the same ingredient used in flea dips, cattle rub bags, and the SPOT that we put on our dog,s backs to prevent tick and flea infestations.  For about $25.00 you can mix something like 15 gallons!
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Bud B. on May 14, 2013, 12:29:00 PM
Wally world carries Sawyer....

(http://www.sawyer.com/images/permFAQ.jpg)
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: manitou1 on May 14, 2013, 12:33:00 PM
Oh, if you have any concerns about health hazards, the military has us completely soak our uniforms in it before going to Afghanistan/Iraq.  Once dry, it lasts about six months through clothes washings and all.  That is when you completely saturate the clothes.  ( That's if you trust what Unc Sam does to us, LOL)
Just spraying it on the clothes with a good coverage will last several washings and remain active for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Steve Jr on May 14, 2013, 12:55:00 PM
I have had several of them on me this year in Indiana , they seem to get worse every year. I can't stand chiggers either they will almost make you go crazy!
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: wvtradbow on May 14, 2013, 01:09:00 PM
This is the real deal,I sent that post to my buddy and he confirmed,thats how he got it,he's been doing extensive research on it and with him it started with a tick bite that just wouldn't heal and now it's to the point that he can't even handle raw meat,that means dragging deer and all and he can touch his pointer with his hands but if he brushes his arm or leg he gets an immediate rash,here's another article.  http://alpha-gal.org/basics/
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: maineac on May 14, 2013, 01:56:00 PM
I am glad we don't have lone star ticks, yet.  Lyme is enough of a worry.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: johnnyk71 on May 14, 2013, 02:40:00 PM
wow, that is an interesting article. i'm definitely going to be more conscious of it this year. knee high rubber boots is the norm for me, but i got chiggers recently at a 3-D shoot, and those things take WEEKS to heal! hate 'em.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: JEFF B on May 14, 2013, 03:42:00 PM
yall better come live down here we dont have  chiggers but i do know what they are like man they make ya itch like hell
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: dnovo on May 14, 2013, 04:45:00 PM
Something that has changed from years ago is that nobody ever burns off their woods or fields like was done years ago. I would think this would really keep ticks in check that way.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: ishoot4thrills on May 14, 2013, 05:56:00 PM
I'll bet those things that you all are calling "chiggers" are really "seed ticks" which are also referred to as "turkey mites". They are very, very tiny but you can see them with the naked eye(barely) and they burrow up under the skin. If you see them on you after an outing, rub alcohol on your skin to kill them before they start burrowing or you will be very, very sorry you didn't!
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: CHENRYIV on May 14, 2013, 06:03:00 PM
I got diagnois last August after 1 1/2 years of getting hives & having my through close up.   The Lone Star meat allergy was identified on late June/ early July 2012. I carry an epi-pen Juat in case.  A little bacon once in a while doesn't hurt though.

I use Hi-yield 38 permethrin.  I works great. I soak all my hunting clothes in it & let them air dry. Did get bit last year.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Scattergun2570 on May 14, 2013, 06:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by manitou1:
Another danged disease from those pests!

I've said it before on here... but just to remind all, I had a tick give me blood poisoning a few years back.  It almost killed me...literally.

You can buy Permetrin at any farm supply store and online.  Some makes are petroleum based and some are nearly scent free... and virtually scent free when dry.  They are a plant based formula that is supposed to be harmless to humans.  It will kill a cat when wet (hint, hint ;-)
It is a WHOLE LOT cheaper buying in bulk and mixing it.  You want the 10% and then mix with water... I can't remember the ratio, but it can be found online.
Permethrin is the same ingredient used in flea dips, cattle rub bags, and the SPOT that we put on our dog,s backs to prevent tick and flea infestations.  For about $25.00 you can mix something like 15 gallons!
What do you mean Kill a cat when wet,,hint hint? Whats that mean?
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: hawkeye n pa on May 14, 2013, 06:32:00 PM
I'd just about have to burn the house, there are a few in the hedges and shrubs. I get them on me just mowing the yard.  Considerably worse in the woods though.

I have my turkey clothes treated with Permetrin and it doesn't keep them off the clothes, although they don't crawl as much, eventually falling off.

How long does a untreated tick live in the house?  The wife is going to lock me and the dog out!
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: manitou1 on May 14, 2013, 07:33:00 PM
Scattergun... it has warnings since this product can be used to kill bugs/fleas, etc. inside a household.  If you spray the carpets, etc. you want to remove house cats until dried. For some reason, even though it is harmless to dogs it can be fatal to kitty cats.  They have warnigs on the label/brochures.
Title: Re: New Tick Concern, Must Read
Post by: Tyler2045 on May 14, 2013, 08:00:00 PM
CHeneryIV, the guy I know that has it, has it so bad that he can no longer eat out because if what he is eating has come in contact with red meat, it will cause a sever allergic reaction.