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Title: A little help please.
Post by: Tom L on May 06, 2013, 10:01:00 PM
I am shooting a left hand 60" Hoyt Buffalo 50#@28", 8 1/2" brace height and I draw it 27". My arrows are Easton Legacy 2016 cut 29 1/2" from valley of the nock groove to end of shaft with 150 grain point and 5 1/2" shield cut feathers. I admit I want PERFECT arrow flight all the time but I just can't quite get there with this rig. They will fly great a few times and the they tail to the left.I have changed point weight with no help. What do I have wrong?
Thanks
Tom
Title: Re: A little help please.
Post by: dhermon85 on May 06, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Did you try 125s?
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Post by: Orion on May 06, 2013, 10:25:00 PM
Is the Buffalo bow cut to center or past center?  2016s spine about 60#.  I'm assuming you're shooting a fast flite type string.  That, and the relatively heavy head, which softens the spine and 1 1/2 inches of arrow length that you don't need, which also softens the dynamic spine means you might just need a little more arrow spine, particularly if your bow is cut past center.  

Start by dropping to a 125 grain point.  Or cut off an inch of arrow length.  Each will have about the same effect.  Both will double the increase in dynamic stiffness. In short, a 2016 should work with your set up if you can find the right point weight and/or arrow length.  Good luck.

P.S. It also could be that your form is inconsistent, of course.
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Post by: Trickshot on May 06, 2013, 10:42:00 PM
If you are shooting a lefty and getting the occasional left kick then you probably don't need to go lighter on the tip. I try to go just a bit heavy for a slightly weak shaft just in case I short draw a little.
Title: Re: A little help please.
Post by: Tom L on May 06, 2013, 10:59:00 PM
Yes I tried 125's not good. It looks to be cut to center not past. I also tried 175's nothing changed. I am using a SBD string. It could be my form.
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Post by: JMG on May 06, 2013, 11:35:00 PM
Ever think you may be getting tired?? I get a slight kick when it happens, especially after I shoot several arrows in a row. I even had someone stand behind me to see what they can see. After you first noticed it, take a little break then come back to it to see if there's an improvement. I would try that before you start investing in different sized arrow shafts and so on. Best of luck Tom.
Title: Re: A little help please.
Post by: JRY309 on May 07, 2013, 12:29:00 AM
Your brace height is alittle high.Hoyt recommended brace for a Buffalo is 7" to 8".I shoot mine at 7&5/8",shoots great for me and quiet.
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Post by: kbetts on May 07, 2013, 09:42:00 AM
What's the nock height?  Might need to go up a bit.
Title: Re: A little help please.
Post by: Tom L on May 07, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
Well I said I tried 125's but if I did I must have been tired because tried them first shots today and they fly like darts. I looked at 3 rivers spine chart after and at 29 1/2" on a 2016 they call for 125. I also think when I get tired my release get's bad. Thanks for the help.

Tom
Title: Re: A little help please.
Post by: threeunder on May 07, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
Agree with JMG

If they are flying fine for the first several shots and then start having poor flight, sounds to me like you may be getting tired and losing a bit of form.
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Post by: Mudd on May 07, 2013, 08:11:00 PM
If they are flying good a majority of the time then chances are the off shots aren't the arrow or the bow.

What is the last thing you can check?

God bless,Mudd
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Post by: Biathlonman on May 07, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
Try a 100 to if you can find them.  Sbd strings require a lot more spine then others.
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Post by: Stoneyb488 on May 15, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
I'm shooting a 55# buffalo and I had this problem also. I switched to a Easton FMJ 500 with a total weight up front of 200 grains. Perfect arrow for an imperfect shooter
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Post by: hunt it on May 15, 2013, 10:38:00 AM
Try 2500 or 300gr up front as see what that does for your flight.