How many of you would like to see Carbon ILF limbs from Centaur Archery?
Jim, this is just a personal opinion but, there are already so many different ILF options out there. Your bows are unique, beautiful pieces of work and one of a kind! Do what you think is best. :D :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :archer: They would sell, but you do build a special bow now that you and you alone are known for.
Your product has a great reputation, if you think the response would warrant your time, I would say go for it! Next question.....recurve or longbow limbs??
Jim, You make a great bow and I know you would make great ILF limbs as well. I say if you want to do it go for it. I think you should make an ILF riser for your limbs as well.
you are a master at your trade. anything you put out is going to have a following. i bet theres a bunch of guys that would have interest. i bet theres a bunch of folks who'd love to see a centaur recurve or a 3pc longbow too. whatever you decide to do at the end of the day you still belong to the elite, best of the best bowyers out there...and your just a young fellow still.
Jim, what will that do to your already long waiting list? Love my T/D Chimera BTW
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Great longbows . I am sure there is demand for ilf. Just not my cup of tea.
I would be very excited about that news, especially if you are making a riser too...or even just a three piece...doesn't have to be ILF. :bigsmyl:
My thoughts, if you can meet the growing needs of the ILF market and through this perhaps break into new business opportunities then go for it. Just remember if you can't meet the demand i.e.: reasonable waiting times, you will not really do anything to grow your product's visibility nor availability. This untoward consequence will only alienate you and Centaur from your growing customer base. Finally, as you obviously know, don't compromise your quality for quantity.
A ILF to me personally is a step toward or back to a compound with all the adjustment's. A trad bow to me is one you string up, check the brace and nock....then go shootin. Not my cup of tea, and purely only my small opinion. But if you tackle it I am sure it will be top notch. I wish you the best on it !!
Lanier
As mentioned before AVALABILTY without a extended wait would help.
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Another great choice from one of the best product lines available.
Nothing wrong with that.
I'd be more excited about a riser!
No doubt I would love a set of ILF limbs made by you. I totally disagree about if it ain't broke don't fix it, you would just be opening up for many more folks to use one of your great products. A riser would be nice to go with a set of limbs though. Shawn
I think it would be an awesome addition to your business. I don't think there is that many high performance ILF longbow limbs out there compared to recurve. I say go for it!!!!!!
QuoteOriginally posted by Big Sneaky:
I think it would be an awesome addition to your business. I don't think there is that many high performance ILF longbow limbs out there compared to recurve. I say go for it!!!!!!
Yep...need more longbow limb choices.
The choices for high performance ILF longbow limbs are pretty limited right now. Besides there's a big price gap between the low end Korean made limbs and the higher end custom limbs. So more choices are always welcome.
Jim,
Without adding any additional commentary I would not have any use for a ILF setup. I prefer your balance of Traditional and modern performance.
I removed the "Don't fix what ain't broke" comment as the more I thought about it, it just didn't fit. My apologies to anyone whom it may offended. :bigsmyl:
I would love to get a set
Jim,
You make a wonderful bow. Not sure if an ILF set up would appeal to me. In business you have to diversify as long as it doesn't dilute your core offerings.
Great Idea.
The market desire is there.
Hope it's a great success for you
Always looking for good ilf choices - both for risers & limbs - anything thats smooth fast & forgiving would be great - don't think there are many RD LB limbs out right now - M
Jim i think it would be something many archers would beinterested in.I think some guys like more mass weight in thier risers and dont shoot the light mass weight bows as well.
A Centaur ILF limb would appeal to this customer base as well as fellows who just like ILF and its adjustability and versatility.
If you could produce a limb that riveled your one piece bow for ILF shooting it would make for a superb bow no doubt in my mind.
Thier are not as many choices in a radical hybrid style longbow limb as thier are for recurve limbs.Not even close.
I think it would fill a niche thier.
Good luck with your marriage coming up by the way and all the best to you and your bride to be:) !!!
I am Happy for you!Maybe you could build her the 1st set of limbs?
I would love to try a pair, need more longbow choices
honestly would rather see a 3 piece version of your already kick ass longbow.
It would certainly open up a broader market for you.
The option I would appreciate most is to be able to simply order a bow longer than 62".
Best of luck!
Yes. ILF is the fastest growing segment of "traditional" archery, and will be for some time. The more risers that are out there, the more people are going to want plug in new limbs, especially ones having quality and performance of yours.
I agree with Lamey. A three piece Centaur would be awesome.
Not being a bowyer, don't know if it's faster to just build limbs, but if it is and you could just add in the ILF limbs and keep your current waiting time where it is on your current longbows, then why not? If not, there would need to be a better margin on the ILF limbs or your not really gaining anything if the wait times extend. Just my non-business owning, non-bow building 2 cents. At the end of the day, you need to do what will satisfy you. All the best either way.
More ILF limb options are always good :)
QuoteOriginally posted by Froggy:
A ILF to me personally is a step toward or back to a compound with all the adjustment's. A trad bow to me is one you string up, check the brace and nock....then go shootin. Not my cup of tea, and purely only my small opinion. But if you tackle it I am sure it will be top notch. I wish you the best on it !!
Lanier
Its just a limb attachment that lets you customize the bow a little to your shooting style. Trust me it really doesnt make shooting or your accuracy go to compound levels. Plus once you set it its basically just a take down recurve. Plus back in the day people used sights and rests on trad bows , there was even mechanical heads, release aids etc... So not a step back just a great system that allows you to enjoy and truely customize your bow to your liking. If you havnt shot one, give it a try.
I love a superb one piece like the centaur. I could care less about an ilf.
The market may be seriously challenged by something unique yet to transpire.
All the best..........
Hopefully you can make them not noodle like most other ILF longbow limbs. If you can do that they will be great.
I'm not an ilf guy either, but I don't understand some of you. If you don't like the concept, then why respond to this topic at all?
It's not like he is twisting your arm to go ilf.
I bet for every 1 shooter who don't like them, there will be several standing in line to have them, and those who get them will 99.9% be very happy.
An ILF is just a traditonal bow with adjustability.Its no different than any other trad bow other you have adjustability and a plethora of limb optioons to choose from.You can fine tune it to your desired taste as far as feel&performance at your draw length and poundage adjustments within 4-5 pounds can be desirable for an archer.No big deal really.
Not at all compound like IMO and not very challenging to set up with some basic knowledge and guidelines to go by.
QuoteOriginally posted by Steelhead:
An ILF is just a traditonal bow with adjustability.Its no different than any other trad bow other you have adjustability and a plethora of limb optioons to choose from.You can fine tune it to your desired taste as far as feel&performance at your draw length and poundage adjustments within 4-5 pounds can be desirable for an archer.No big deal really.
Not at all compound like IMO and not very challenging to set up with some basic knowledge and guidelines to go by.
yup, I dont under stand the issues with them. There are only benefits. Once I have money I can spend freely I plan on ordering a new ILF set up (just sold mine :( )
QuoteOriginally posted by Jim Neaves:
How many of you would like to see Carbon ILF limbs from Centaur Archery?
I would.
Jim,I think Shawn Leonard hit it. You gotta make a riser to boot. But,think about how awesome a full blown ILF Centaur could be! Carbon/Foam core,Bamboo/veneered beautys,and some crazy off the hook riser that is like nothing else out there. Sounds purty cool. rat'
Jim, you definetly need to build a riser to go with the limbs....I'd be interested...!! Jr.
QuoteOriginally posted by Froggy:
A ILF to me personally is a step toward or back to a compound with all the adjustment's....
Lanier
I don't know where some guys come up with this stuff. ILF/HDS is nothing new. Do you have any idea when it was developed?
I feel sure Jim will make the right choice for him and his business.
Respectfully
Lanier
Froggy is a fine fellow & friend. I consider his input valid as any other. In fact, I've tried ILF off and on for a while and even though I see its merits, it's just not for me ... for reasons not dissimilar to Lanier's. Only he had the where-with-all to say it.
To the point, ILF is wildly popular right now as is Centaur bows. Sounds like a good mating from a business perspective. I'm sure anything Jim turns out will be top notch making that infamous list even longer. Hiring on a good assistant might make it easier but that also has it's pitfalls. Just my $.02.
Thanks guys, I appreciate your feedback. ILF limbs from Centaur should be available within the next few weeks.
Sounds like there's something to look forward to in the coming week! Great job Jim!
Truth to be told, I guess there's quite a few of us who'd be thoroughly blow away if you'd come up with a compatible riser to match! I simply love the grip shape and grooves on the triple carbon. I bet it'd look radical if made into a 3pc takedown riser!
Hey Jim,
Make sure you get the DAS bushings as well. Your limbs would mate up well with the 15"DAS riser.
Brant
QuoteOriginally posted by Jim Neaves:
Thanks guys, I appreciate your feedback. ILF limbs from Centaur should be available within the next few weeks.
AWESOME!! Can't wait! :thumbsup: :archer2:
Danny,
Sure appreciate the kind words sir, feeling is mutual. I guess I need to hone my political correctness more huh ? :thumbsup: :campfire: Jim just asked for thoughts, I gave mine is all.
Lanier
I would like to see you make ILF limbs. I switched to ILF about 2 years ago and may never go back. But, if you start making ILF one factor is price. If you plan to compete with the US limb makers, you have a chance for success. But it will be hard to match or beat the prices of the overseas manufacturers. A person can buy a set of limbs made in Korea for about 1/3 of the price being charged by US bow makers. Yes, people will tell you they only buy made in USA (as they walk out of Wal-Mart with a cart full of made in China stuff), yes those others limbs are not custom wood laminations, but many ILF shooters do not care about wood lams and care more about how the limbs shoot and price than the custom woods. As far as I am concerned, the more people making them the better, I like choices.
Don't feel bad Froggy! I feel the same way! I love my centuars and as long as he keeps making them I am happy!! Can't wait to see what Jim comes up with next to evolve the centaur longbows!
:thumbsup: Jamie.... He sure makes a fine longbow.
Froggy, go back up your tree! Actually I appreciate you giving your opinion as well as everyone else. After all that is what Jim asked for.
Sure it will be another top end product by Jim Neaves.
Bill
-what about lengths. Will you have a short, medium, and long size for a 58, 60, and 62 inch length bow on a standard 17" riser?
Really looking forward to these.
I will offer the standard lengths and also an extra long.
Jim, will you have an idea of what ILF risers will work the best? I think some of the ILF risers might vary in limb pad angle.
Yep, threre are some variances in pad angle from manufacturers.
I do not know which risers will work best until I know what all of the angles are for the various risers. Still in the r and d phase right now but am moving forward so I can make them available in the near future.
Jim,
I could send you my Das 15" riser to try. I have a build date coming up soon. i was thinking 2 pc dark matter but would consider a set of longbow limbs for my Das 15" riser. Let me know.
Thanks, Randy Chamberlin
Jim,
I think that would be a smart move on your part depending on your time, material and money to make. Your bows are unique and sell to a great number of people already. This will only open more opportunity for you to reach more people in the industry that shoot ILF. Great Marketing move brother.
Oh and by the way make sure they are in Longbow. HAHA