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Title: Most aggressive reflex/deflex longbow?
Post by: michigan bill on May 02, 2013, 09:46:00 PM
Quick question.
Of the 150 or so sure-enough longbow bowyers in the US, whose do you think is the most "aggressive" or "radical" design.  That is, whose "deflexes" and then "reflexes" the most?
Thanks.
Bill
Title: Re: Most aggressive reflex/deflex longbow?
Post by: Fletcher on May 02, 2013, 09:56:00 PM
I've liked the Centaur design ever since it was the Selway Lil Mag.  Not that much deflex, but strong reflex.  Makes for a excellent shooting bow with great performance.
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Post by: robtattoo on May 02, 2013, 09:58:00 PM
Morrison Shawnee Dakota.
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Post by: Steelhead on May 02, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
The Cari Bow Perigrine and the Centaur are about as aggressive as it gets.The Liberty Edge is pretty aggressive as well in an R&D.
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Post by: Safari Scott on May 03, 2013, 12:35:00 AM
The Black Creek Siren and the MOAB are both really curvy.
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Post by: Zradix on May 03, 2013, 02:14:00 AM
kanati's are pretty aggressive
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Post by: Zradix on May 03, 2013, 02:18:00 AM
Dwyer Endeavor?
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Post by: Gil on May 03, 2013, 02:18:00 AM
Big Jim Thunderchild
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Post by: indianerhelm on May 03, 2013, 02:39:00 AM
My PSR, is for me the strongest reflex deflex longbow!   :biglaugh:
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Post by: Piratkey on May 03, 2013, 03:48:00 AM
:archer:  BIGFOOT SASQUATCH
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Post by: Flying Dutchman on May 03, 2013, 04:00:00 AM
Another vote for the Cari-bow Peregrine.
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Post by: Nativestranger on May 03, 2013, 05:19:00 AM
You may want to dig out the "Aggressive hybrid longbow thread" to take a look. Do you want aggressive in strung or unstrung profile? There is a difference. Some bows like the osprey have lots of reflex unbraced but braces to almost straight limbs. While others like Omega retain a lot of that reflex after brace.
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Post by: atatarpm on May 03, 2013, 06:38:00 AM
Qarbon Nano
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Post by: sawtoothscream on May 03, 2013, 06:56:00 AM
Hitman.  Kinda look like a slim limbed recurve. Shoot great
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on May 03, 2013, 12:09:00 PM
Looks like you will have a 150 answers here.

My dad sent me a link to  a guy out in the west who I've never heard of before.  I couldnt believe what he was making, and then drawing it 30 inches.  Wish I remember his name.
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Post by: Zradix on May 03, 2013, 12:10:00 PM
me too..lol
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Post by: FerretWYO on May 03, 2013, 12:14:00 PM
The yellowstone express is very agressive.
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Post by: FerretWYO on May 03, 2013, 12:22:00 PM
I would say this one wins though.

 (http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rburtis1/DSC_0048.jpg)
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Post by: threeunder on May 03, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
Ummmm....yep....that's got more than my MOABs and Thunderchild combined!
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Post by: Chromebuck on May 03, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
If aggressive is defined while braced I think these are some good examples.

Black Creek Banshee
 (http://***********.bowsite.com/TF/pics/00small20264670.JPG)

Dywer Endeaver
  (http://***********.bowsite.com/tf/pics/00small25941020.JPG)  

Thunderchild
  (http://***********.bowsite.com/classifieds2/pics/00small61298177.JPG)

Liberty Edge
  (http://www.libertybows.net/images/albums/NewAlbum_f0e93/tn_480_e9c1c4a5a94c4f1ead544080f6cb5beb.jpg.jpg)

Stewart Slammer Special
  (http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/chromebuck/DSC02849_zps2353591a.jpg)

  :campfire:
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Post by: Arkansas Osage on May 03, 2013, 06:23:00 PM
I've always liked the reflex deflex of these bows...

Two Rivers Longbows. Leroy Buckley. Something like this will be my next bow. Their osage backed with bamboo.

 (http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/KGrHqJHJFMFEUYnqVUBRKtGF0q1w60_57_zps4fc954d4.jpg)
   (http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/T2eC16FHJHgE9n0yDj0vBRKtGBH34w60_57_zps81746aa1.jpg)
   (http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/T2eC16dHJHwE9n8iic-BRWMdQVCu60_57_zps0a4324c9.jpg)


He also makes a take down version like this.
 (http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/camord2_zps254e19e1.jpg)

 (http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/camrd_zps40938e8e.jpg)

I would like a once piece with the camo wood riser backed with osage and bamboo, and then copperhead skins to protect the bamboo.
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Post by: Arkansas Osage on May 03, 2013, 06:24:00 PM
everyone needs to post pics with their suggestions lol. So we can see what your talking about. I'm in the market for an aggressive reflex deflex longbow, but will probably be getting a don dow stik bow, not super aggressive but its still a nce r/d.
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Post by: michigan bill on May 03, 2013, 09:17:00 PM
dang!
you guys have done great.
i am still very much in the dark.  but it is on a higher level.
i will check all of these out.
thanks.
keep them coming if you want.
bill
Title: Re: Most aggressive reflex/deflex longbow?
Post by: threeunder on May 03, 2013, 09:42:00 PM
Personally, I don't think you can beat the MOAB.  I know it is all subjective, but the MOAB's give me everything I want in a R/D longbow.

This isn't a very good picture, but does show one of the limbs.

 (http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/ken613/MOAB.jpg) (http://s108.photobucket.com/user/ken613/media/MOAB.jpg.html)
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Post by: Bear Heart on May 04, 2013, 01:04:00 AM
I know it is a recurve but that black swan archery wave is crazy looking.
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Post by: bulldog18 on May 04, 2013, 08:21:00 AM
Dwyer Endeavor or Bamabows Expedition
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Post by: katman on May 04, 2013, 08:32:00 AM
 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Gerys%20Sas/SANY0034.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/kirkll/media/Bows%202012/Gerys%20Sas/SANY0034.jpg.html)   (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Gerys%20Sas/SANY0033.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/kirkll/media/Bows%202012/Gerys%20Sas/SANY0033.jpg.html)

Bigfoot Sasquatch take-down. Shows the static tips well.
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Post by: Over&Under on May 04, 2013, 09:25:00 AM
Try stringing a zipper nitro...that is an extreme r/d longbow!

Chromebuck...correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that second pic down is a Dwyer endeavor...
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Post by: Moots on May 04, 2013, 09:40:00 AM
So many bows, so little time.
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Post by: buckracks7 on May 04, 2013, 09:53:00 AM
FerretWYO's bow looks like a winner, but I would like to see a strung pic please.
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on May 04, 2013, 10:04:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by buckracks7:
FerretWYO's bow looks like a winner, but I would like to see a strung pic please.
I don't know how one would go about stringing something like that.  probably why its unstrung lol. they built it but couldn't use it   :laughing:  

It is a very neat bow. wonder how long it is?
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Post by: buckracks7 on May 04, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
And maybe another one at full draw!
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Post by: Brad Arnett on May 04, 2013, 10:26:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Chromebuck:
If aggressive is defined while braced I think these are some good examples.

Black Creek Banshee
  (http://***********.bowsite.com/TF/pics/00small20264670.JPG)


This is one bow that I'd love to get my hands on and put some arrows through.

The Centaur Carbon Elite I bought from you is the most aggressive RD longbow I've personally shot. Almost a year later with it as my main bow I still can't find any faults with it. I REALLY love this bow. It'll chasing turkeys with me starting next week.

  (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/brdeano/252a.jpg) (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/brdeano/media/252a.jpg.html)

Here is the strung centaur (right) compared to the strung MOAB (left bow)

  (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/brdeano/2012-08-31_15-32-04_712.jpg) (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/brdeano/media/2012-08-31_15-32-04_712.jpg.html)
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Post by: joe vt on May 05, 2013, 07:04:00 AM
Rivers Edge LX 3pc
Hummingbird 3 pc
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Post by: Orion on May 05, 2013, 10:06:00 AM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned an ACS.  Not only are the limbs highly reflexed, the riser limb bed angle is much shallower than most other one-piece or 3-piece hybrids making for high pre-loading and performance.
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Post by: Zog on May 05, 2013, 12:35:00 PM
If they get too aggressive, aren't they called "recurves"?

Still great bows, no matter what we call them!
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Post by: Nativestranger on May 05, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
Are vertical stability and forgiveness compromised in designs that shows aggressive reflex when strung?
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Post by: Razorbak on May 05, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
I say the 21st century bows were highly reflex/deflex bows and when Buddy and Jim making them they were amazing
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Post by: LimBender on May 05, 2013, 01:13:00 PM
Agree with Over&Under on the Zipper Nitro.  

You think they made a mistake and sent you recurve limbs before you string it up.     :D
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Post by: FerretWYO on May 05, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
This particular one was damaged by high humidity in the south and can not be strung.
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Post by: buckracks7 on May 05, 2013, 03:46:00 PM
Sure, I was joking. Very interesting pic though.
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Post by: damascusdave on May 05, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Zog:
If they get too aggressive, aren't they called "recurves"?

Still great bows, no matter what we call them!
And it is in that vicinity that the arguments always begin. I like shooting traditional bows and could care less what someone chooses to call them.    The only time it really matters is when competition rules are involved which gives me an excuse to buy a self bow to add to my pile.
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Post by: Mike Vines on May 05, 2013, 07:12:00 PM
Looks like your closing in on the names of ALL the "150 or so bowyers".  When you ask for the best, you are going to get a boatload of opinions.  There are definitely a couple names that keep popping up though.
Title: Re: Most aggressive reflex/deflex longbow?
Post by: michigan bill on May 10, 2013, 09:30:00 AM
Yes, I was kind of hoping I could get by with only buying 2 or 3 of these "assertive" [my attempt at political correctness] bows, but it looks like it will need to be 7 or 8.
I hope my wife will understand...
bill
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Post by: Lil Okie on May 10, 2013, 09:51:00 AM
I agree with the Centaur carbon elite.. I love mine.

Jim should be getting my triple carbon to me in a couple of weeks.  I can hardly wait..LOL