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Title: carbon arrow question
Post by: rockkiller on April 14, 2013, 12:29:00 AM
I have shot wood forever so I know nil about carbons ,but I'm trying some with one bow and trying different things and my question is ( and this is probably a dumb question) can you use hot glue?????  :dunno:I want to try different inserts,weights

Thanks for any help
Al
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: Fanto on April 14, 2013, 02:02:00 AM
yes you can and Bohning make Cool-flex which melts at a lower temp (less than 100c) dont know in farenheit
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: petalumapete on April 14, 2013, 02:05:00 AM
sure, I buy it from Big Jim.
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: jlowrey75 on April 14, 2013, 03:21:00 AM
I use hot glue all the time. Stole some from the wife, works great. I havent lost insert yet, plus its cheap.
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: treehermit on April 14, 2013, 04:34:00 AM
X2 on the cool flex.  It makes the inserts easy to remove as well...just run a little hot water over the end.
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: T-Bowhunter on April 14, 2013, 06:58:00 AM
I use the cool flex.
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: rockkiller on April 14, 2013, 08:04:00 AM
Thanks for the info everyone.
Jay...is that craft hot glue you are using ? And if it is ,how do you heat the shaft to remove a insert ?Will running hot water do the trick like treehermit does with the cool flex ??

Thanks again
AL
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: JRY309 on April 14, 2013, 08:07:00 AM
The way I have tuned my carbons for years is to use saran wrap.I'll push the insert in with alittle saran wrap.It will hold the insert in snug enough for shooting and tuning.It's quick and easy,you just need a softer target like a bag target that doesn't grab toot tight on arrow removal.
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: Prairie Drifter on April 14, 2013, 09:18:00 AM
You don't "heat the shaft". Screw a field point in and heat the point.
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: BigJim on April 14, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
I have found that not all hot melt is created equal. I had done some testing to find this out and settled in on what we currently use.

Every day is a test around here!
bigjim
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: Roughrider on April 14, 2013, 10:10:00 AM
I've used hot melt for years on carbons and carbon composite (full metal jackets).  I use both Ferr-l-tite and hardware store hot melt for metal.  What Big Jim says is true, and since he's done the research, has a good product.  

Clean the shaft and insert with alcohol, acetone, or similar product first.  I apply most of the heat to the insert to install, to the field point to remove, but also heat the shaft some with a propane or butane torch and have yet to have a problem - in my experience.  Just be careful with the heat as you can damage the glues in the carbon.
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: Shawn Leonard on April 14, 2013, 11:21:00 AM
If you are gonna use regular inserts and just change point weight with screw in heads just cut from the back of the shaft and glue the inserts in with whatever works for you, I use slow cure epoxy! Shawn
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: rockkiller on April 14, 2013, 01:45:00 PM
Thanks for all the help,think I'm going to try the cool flex from big jims,was going to place a order later anyway and I'll just throw it on the pile.
Al
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: RecurveRookie on April 14, 2013, 06:02:00 PM
I use the blue cool flex stick.  I put 91% alcohol in a kerosene lamp (hurricane lamp).  Warm up the insert in the flame.
Title: Re: carbon arrow question
Post by: xtrema312 on April 14, 2013, 08:39:00 PM
Get the inside of the shaft clean and scuffed up well particularly with GT shafts.  I have used the cool flex and ferr-l-tite without issue.  The only down side I think is that a real good epoxy probably will help with shaft splitting from hard hits because it hold stronger.  The hot melt will back out on a hard hit easier than epoxy so I know it will also drive in easier.