Hey guys,
Im finially going to try some carbon arrows. Ive always shot woodies...but Im curious about carbon. Im trying to decide between GT 3555 and 5575's. I would like to run them with 100 gr steel adapters and use my 125 Zwickey Eskimos. I like my arrow length at 29.5"and my Super Shrew comes in at 47 lbs at my draw length. Anybody have any guess on which one would be best? Anybody have a similar setup? I really appreciate it. ;)
Buy a spine test kit and experiment.
I shoot a 48# bow and use the 55/75 GT at 29.5 with 175 up front.
Good luck.
Craig
If you want that kind of weight up front the 5575's should work.
My Shrew is 57lbs at my 30" draw. Mine loves 55/75 with 200Gr up front. Hope this helps.
I would suggest a .400 carbon,with a 100 grain brass bushing,and .125-.175 head based on my Shrews performance.
Sorry but shoot the 35/55s, you would need to go up to at least 275 or more to get the the 55/75s to fly/ Just look at ISPs post and that should tell you, he is shooting 10#s more weight and has a 30" draw. You do not mention your exact draw but the 35/55's will get ya close with 225 up front if you draw around 28"s. I shoot 35/55s out of most of my bows and they are 51-54#s at 28.5"s and I cut mine to 29.5"s and shoot 175-200 grains up front. A lot of folks are over spined and feathers hide a lot. Shawn
I shoot pretty much the same arrow set up as Shawn with bows from 50#-60# pounds at 28" .
Thanks guys. Shawn....all my bows fall into this range. Between 47-48 lbs. I do shoot skinny strings. Does this make any difference in arrow spine?
I have to think 5575's will be over spines.
Not enough to make ya jump a whole spine group, I shoot most 10-12 strand D-97 strings. My Belcher/Border set-up has 8 strand and it makes no difference. Shawn
Thanks a lot! :bigsmyl:
QuoteOriginally posted by Gump21Bravo:
[qb] Buy a spine test kit and experiment.
Buy a spine kit!!
I'm in agreement with Shawn on this one! I think you will have a much easier time getting the 35/55's to tune correctly.
Bisch
I guess I'm overspined then. :bigsmyl: carbons can be a real pain to tune. I don't want to give any false info to you TNtrapper,and the 3555's will likely work better for you with a 47 pound bow. Just stating what worked for me. rat'
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RR, try adding 100 grains and see the flight you get. I am not trying to start anything here, but I have seen tons of folks say look at the flight I get, it is perfect was shocked at.what I saw. Too each his own but 90% of the guys I know that do get perfect arrow flight with .400 spine arrows shoot 60 to 65# Bow with a draw from 28 to 29"s give or take and an arrow from 28.5 to 30"s and point weight from 225 to 325 depending on type of bow. Shawn
RR, try adding 100 grains and see the flight you get. I am not trying to start anything hete, but I have seen tons of folks say look at the flight I get, it is perfect was shocked at.what I saw. Too each his own but 90% of the guys I know that do get perfect arrow flight with .400 spine arrows shoot 60 to 65# Bow with a draw from 28 to 29"s give or take and an arrow from 28.5 to 30"s and point weight from 225 to 325 depending on type of bow. Shawn
Shawn, you're making me regret fletching up these 5575's right now!
Shawn I agree. 400 seemed way stiff. But it bullet holes buddy. I am curious about one thing that I must satisfy however. I want to strip one arrow down and bareshaft it. The feathers thing has me pondering. I shoot 3-under,I don't know if my high nock point may aid in flight characteristics any. I also would like to scale the Shrew and see if it may be 50-51 at 28 instead of the 49 it was built as. That is not much difference,but I ain't lying about the arrows flight. It's great. rat'
TN, I have the exact set up you are talking about and I shoot GT 3555's.
I bareshafted my hybrid longbow, 6 strands skinny SBD string, 45lbs@29", to perfection with GT trads 1535, 30.5 Bop and a 100 grains fieldtip. 3 three 5 inch fletches and standard GT insert and nock.
RR, I guess I am saying is you can get away with a lot more point weight and lighter spined arrows because carbon recover from paradox way quicker than other arrow materials. Let me put it this way, we can all agree that compounds shoot much harder(with more force)than Trad bows, correct? Than why do a lot of folks think they can shoot carbons designed and spined for compounds out of bows in the same poundage rated for compounds. Carbons are spined with 14" centers and woodies with 13" centers. Take a carbon and spine it like you would a wood arrow at 13"s you would be amazed what the deflection goes too. Basically you or a lot of other folks are shooting arrows that were designed to be shot from 35/55# compounds with 75-125 grain heads. I am not trying to argue and I have seen guys who get great flight with what I think are arrows way stiff, but most times those same guys can add 50-100 grains and get as good and in most cases better flight. In a lot of cases, not the Shrews case bows are cut well past center and people can get good flight out of a wide range of spines. I just really want to stress the point about remember even Traditional look arrows are still spined like all the rest of carbons and all carbons are spine rated for compound bows not us Trad bow guys. Have Fun!! Shawn
Shawn,that..makes alot of sense. Thank you for taking the time to put all that information together. One thing I really,really would like to get in my archery arsenal is a spine tester. I will add some more weight to these arrows and see the difference. Best regards,rat' :campfire:
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I guess I'm overspined then. :bigsmyl: carbons can be a real pain to tune. I don't want to give any false info to you TNtrapper,and the 3555's will likely work better for you with a 47 pound bow. Just stating what worked for me. rat'
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I believe 5575 will be too stiff unless you want to load up the front more. I'm shooting 50# at 27". 29" 5575s with 225-250 grains up front and they bareshaft perfectly. I don't think I could get by with any less weight up front.
Thanks a lot guys for all the help! Ive got some 3555's ordered. Im going to use my 125 Eskimos and I got a few of the glue on adapters in aluminum and steel in several weights. Now just waiting on the delivery. I appreciate it.