Several posts lately singing praise of static limbs. Not trying to start an argument but if you tried them and prefer working limbs , pls chime in and say why.
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It depends on the bow and the design. I love my static tips but I also love some recurves with a working limb, like Norm Johnsons and Dick Robertsons, Bob Lee and many more! Shawn
I prefer well designed bows...my right handed go-to bow is an RER LXR meaning it has a set of static tip recurve limbs and a set of r/d longbow limbs...I like shooting that bow with both sets of limbs...my left handed go to bow is a Robertson Fatal Styk that I like and shoot just as well
DDave
"I prefer well designed bows"
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I couldn't feel or tell a whole lot of difference, settled on a bow with full working limbs, but had nothing against the statics.
QuoteOriginally posted by TRAP:
"I prefer well designed bows"
;) x3! ;)
If I could only have one bow it would be my LXR...like that is ever going to happen
DDave
I can definitely tell the difference between the two, a well desined static tip almost feel like it has a let off when the tip opens up. Shawn
I tried one at Denton hill last year.Thought it was louder and slower than my Bob Lee with the same arrows,so did the guy next to me.
As previously stated, it is in the design, and I would like to add the craftsmanship.
My belief is the working tip is easier to mass produce so the manufactures marketed that type as superior. Personally, it comes down to personal choice, what feels best to each individual. Sort of like comparing a peach to a nectarine, they are both good, and some peaches and nectarines are inherently better then others. That being said, my all time favorite recurve is one made in the mid 1950's by Elsworth Green for his nephew Jack. It happens to have static tips. My next three favorite bows, the Robertson, Schafer, and my Ramshorn, all have working tips.
I had a ballistik I didn't care for because it was so sensitive but my 1953 kodiak is simply amazing.. as for working limbs I can go from the 53 kodiak to my Palmer classic with no problems.. I have to agree about the design,,, if your having probs with a ST recurve then try a different one!
The best bow? By what definition? Your best my best? Best performing over all design? We shoot what we like and don't have to defend it or tout it as the best.
With that said, there are designs, more so as of late that meld desirable qualities for the hunter
into a design. Take the Duo flex, not a huge following in its day and now the R/D longbow is wide spread. Statics are only now really coming to light. Tim Miegs had it right as well as John Fazio with the Ballistik. Many bows share thier geometry with better materials and tweaks.
Working recurves will not go by the way side but
I for one think that Statics will gain market share as more people give them a try. Lets face it, we all have gone through bows to get to the one we like and with the performance, accuracy and quiet statics offer many will be drawn to try them.. and love them.
Lou
Call them whatever you want. It's the bowyer's job to build it and my job to shoot it. Find what you like and stick with it! LOL!
Like what was said before-"well designed limbs".
I just want them to help me kill cleanly.
i have longbows, working limb recurves, and a static tip Sheepeater Spirit. i like them all for different reasons.
but i have to say, that Sheepeater has a cast and quietness combined that the others can't match. i'm pretty much sold on a well-designed static as the ticket for me.
only static I have tried with dryad epics on my titan riser. Very smooth draw, no shock at shoot and flung a arrow pretty fast. If they were mediums I would have kept them
I really like my Morrison MAX I limbs and agree with Shawn about the "let off". However, my old Winex limbs are not far behind in the performance category. Both are fast, quiet and stable. I can shoot them interchangeably but the letoff of the Morrison's is a really nice feel.
I doubt many if any could tell a static from working limb if they were not told beforehand or watched it being drawn. I really dont care what it is...if I like the bow, it feels good in my hand, it shoots where I am looking, and gives me that overall feel of confidence. Then I buy it....
I dont watch the limb tips while drawing and neither does my target or the animals I pursue. Get what works for you and dont worry so much about what one has or another doesnt. Make yourself happy FIRST and foremost.
Ron, The first time I pulled a static I could tell a lot of difference between it and a working recurve. This is not just hype it shows in the draw force curve and performance of the bows. Mechanical advantage in leverage and string angle is why.
God bless, Steve
I am a long bowman so please besr with me. Do static recurves have narrower limbs and deeper cores than a standard recurve? I understand the power wedge application and the non-working part of a static, but OTHER than that, do they differ from a regular recurve much? There was a fantastic straight grip static recurve for sale a while back I wanted to pick up and the tips looked about 1/2" wide and te limbs were narrow.
Can you twist the tips around as much on a static as a standard? I'm looking for a little static 101 class, I feel myself and others could benefit from those who know?
Yes,my personal preference.
QuoteOriginally posted by Brianlocal3:
I am a long bowman so please besr with me. Do static recurves have narrower limbs and deeper cores than a standard recurve? I understand the power wedge application and the non-working part of a static, but OTHER than that, do they differ from a regular recurve much? There was a fantastic straight grip static recurve for sale a while back I wanted to pick up and the tips looked about 1/2" wide and te limbs were narrow.
Can you twist the tips around as much on a static as a standard? I'm looking for a little static 101 class, I feel myself and others could benefit from those who know?
Typically a static tip recurve needs a bit more width profile to keep the limbs stable and not have any limb twist or tracking issues.....Now I've seen narrow width deep core static tips that were stable in higher draw weights...... but typically you rarely see a recurve limb, static or working recurve less than 1.5" in width in the working portion of the limb.
There are a lot of factors the determine a limbs stability. The type of materials used in the limbs dictates how far you can push each design. sometimes bias weave carbon can take a really squirrely bow and stiffen it up nicely without seeing a lot of difference in speed.
a big one is draw weight.... you can build a really nice rock solid stable limb bow that weighs in at 50@28", and have the same identical bow in 40 pounds seem floppy or vertically unstable.... but they still shoot excellent if they are balanced out well....
Thanks Kirk
QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
Ron, The first time I pulled a static I could tell a lot of difference between it and a working recurve. This is not just hype it shows in the draw force curve and performance of the bows. Mechanical advantage in leverage and string angle is why.
God bless, Steve
Sixby,
I drew one once years ago and could not tell difference and if was not told would never have known...maybe it was not well designed. maybe one day I will be somewhere that you or another is at to do a good side by side comparison of one of my recurves and then a nicely built static tip.
I find my static longbow quiet, without having to pad the string at the contact point. That is the biggest reason I prefer my XR Static Tip Recurve... Darn near as quiet as my mild R/D longbow..
I have to totally disagree with Brock, a well designed static draws like no other. I would bet a lot of people could tell the difference. Shawn
QuoteOriginally posted by Gator1:
I find my static longbow quiet, without having to pad the string at the contact point. That is the biggest reason I prefer my XR Static Tip Recurve... Darn near as quiet as my mild R/D longbow..
Yup, what Mitch said!
The "let off" on my rer xr is definitely noticeable. Once I go past about 28 1/4" it smooths out real nice!
Just saying...I would like to have say a longbow or selfbow shooter....be blindfolded and not told which bow is which out of 3-4 bows....1 being static and rest being various makes of working tip...and then have them identify which is different.
if it is THAT DIFFERENT in feel to the unknowing shooter then should be easy for him to pick the static versus the other three working limbs.
I only doubt as the one instance I shot I could not tell a difference....doesnt mean I am wrong...just that with the model I shot I could not tell a difference.