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Title: ash shafts
Post by: BUCK-EYE on March 18, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
where do you guys get your ash shafts from? looking to try a different wood. have shot sitka spruce and cedar for the last few years. thanks don
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Post by: akbowbender on March 18, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
http://www.arrowwoods.com/  

Bill will set you up.
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Post by: longbowray on March 18, 2013, 10:25:00 PM
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AMA were I get them .
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Post by: jsweka on March 18, 2013, 11:04:00 PM
Ash is the toughest wood shaft you'll find, but it does need more straightening than something like cedar or douglas fir.
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Post by: Pheonixarcher on March 19, 2013, 03:59:00 AM
How well do they stay straight, and how heavy are they for spine?
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Post by: dhaverstick on March 19, 2013, 07:43:00 AM
I second Bill at Allegheny Mountain Arrow Woods. I've gotten ash shafts from him for years and he's always sent me a quality product.

I go between 5 and 10 pounds up in spine due to their heavy weight. Ash can be a bit of a pain to straighten at first but mine tend to stay that way once I get them there.
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Post by: RAU on March 19, 2013, 08:45:00 AM
Alegheny mt arrow woods for sure. Never weighed my finished arrows but they are HEAVY. I straighten mine by repeatedly rolling briefly on the top of my wood stove straigten and repeat till done
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Post by: Bjorn on March 19, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
Get the best you can find-there are no bargains when it comes to ash. If you buy the best from a reputable source they should be straight and stay that way too. At least that has been my experience. Ted at Raptor has some great ash.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: heydeerman on March 19, 2013, 09:49:00 PM
Remember Silent Pond???
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Post by: BUCK-EYE on March 19, 2013, 09:57:00 PM
jim is twig arrows in ohio? didnt no if they had ash. i forgot about raptor i will call him tomorrow thanks!
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Post by: JAG on March 19, 2013, 10:13:00 PM
Still have some Silent Pond shafts.  Mr. Carleson, of Madbury Arrows, once told me they were "...tougher than the hinges of hell..."  I always enjoyed talkingwith him, when I ordered shafts from him.
Johnny/JAG
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Post by: Austin Brown on March 19, 2013, 10:14:00 PM
Ted didn't have ash listed on his site when I ordered some shafts from him last week.  Atleast if I'm remembering right.
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Post by: Russ Clagett on March 20, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
I've heard if you scortch the shaft with heat like a torch once it is straight it will stay that way....any truth to this?

I'd love to shoot ash but worry about straigtening arrows all the time...
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Post by: Ted Fry on March 20, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
Nope , sorry , no longer available at Raptor.
Not enough demand and most dont like the difficulty to straighten.
They are tough but take a little work to get them there and keep them there.
Bill at Allegheny  is the man there .
Yes I do remember Silent Pond , good shafts and Mike is a good guy, sells what he makes now for marshmallow sticks for campgrounds on the East coast.
No matching and no FET.
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Post by: heydeerman on March 20, 2013, 07:38:00 PM
Don't believe Twig carries ash. He does have some heavy ramin wood shafts tho.
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Post by: Overspined on March 20, 2013, 09:09:00 PM
The 2 dz ash I got from AMA was suspect.  Tons of grain run out and the 11/32 were more like 23/64. I was not impressed.  I use them only for footings now.
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Post by: heydeerman on March 20, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
I just did a google search for ash shafts and besides AMAW you have to go to Europe to get em.
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Post by: Pheonixarcher on March 21, 2013, 02:29:00 AM
Get them while you can boy's, because I fear the ash trees are gonna go the way of the American Chestnut!
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Post by: RAU on March 21, 2013, 07:36:00 AM
Overspined Ive ordered from Allghenny mt arrow woods atleast 10 times. The service and quality are PERFECT!  Grouped within 5 lb of spine weight and +/- 10 grains of physical weight. Did you tell them your not satisfied and give the guy a chance to make this right before you slam him publicly on a message board? If these shafts were in fact suspect I guarantee that guy would have made it right.
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Post by: heydeerman on March 21, 2013, 08:28:00 AM
Ash...the wood of king's I have heard said. Excellent firewood. The best tree to put a climber in. The perfect bark for bite and usually pretty straight. Great arrow wood. Ash borers suck.
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Post by: kbetts on March 21, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
Just finishing up some for the white elephant.  The whole dozen ended up being within 5 grains of each other.

Hope they can take the Florida heat!
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Post by: PaLongshank on March 21, 2013, 10:20:00 AM
Nothing like a good piece of A$$...I mean ASH! Loved the ash shanks I used to get from silent pond.  Met him numerous yrs at the ETAR.  His trick for straighteing an ash shaft was to rub with olive oil and then put in oven for 10 min or so at low heat 150-200.  Makes them pliable as heck and allows you to get super straight.  
 Once they cool they set themselves and lock in nice and straight.  I then start the building process by sanding and steel wooling, followed by staining, followed by cresting, and then fletching.....done!Have been doing this for 20 yrs now....works great.  have lots of pics but not on my work computer.....let me know if you want to see some..PaLongshank