I had a fellow today refer to the traditional way, as the hard way, but is it really?
This is my 2nd shot of the day at 18 yrds., shot cold, with no warm ups other than my first shot into the bag above which had similar results. Be that as it may, my point is that I simply burned a hole in the spot, pushed, pulled, anchored, and released, now dont get me wrong, im no great shot, .....but it seemed to be more of a natural way than hard way to me.
Granted it takes a lot more time, dedication and practice to become proficient with our weapons of choice, but is it really the hard way? I think not, but in fact for me it is the natural way and the fun way because of my love for the pure simplicity as well as my love of shooting.
Challenging.....yes, more dedication and practice.....yes, doing it the hard way....absolutely not!
Traditional archery is as it should be, requiring a dedication that is challenging, simple, fun and very efficient with simple equipment... but referring to it as the hard way.....I just cant agree!
Is it really doing it the hard way?
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When I miss chip shots at standing deer with my longbow I like to think I'm doing it the hard way! ;)
The hard way.......maybe not, the most challenging way........indeed! :)
Most rewarding way, for sure!
QuoteOriginally posted by moleman:
[QB] I had a fellow today refer to the traditional way, as the hard way, but is it really?
If you do it from the ground with fair chase - yes. It is harder than any firearm related hunting.
Personally, I find the lack of sights and smoothness of draw and speed of finger draw and release faster and more suited to hunting than a more modern bow. So in that sense no, it is no harder than any other bowunting. You just have to be good enough or patient enough to get within 25 yards.
To take your thought one step further, those shots where I just concentrate on my target and draw and shoot, when the arrow seems to have no alternative other than to go exactly where I want it to go, when I somehow know it's going to go there even before I release the shot, seem effortless. If only we could figure out how to make them happen more often....
I'm gonna have to agree with Howard Hill on this one; it is the "hard way", but his comparison was to firearm hunting as compounds had not hit the scene yet. I do agree with all of your thoughts on traditional archery. Some of us just love it that way. Or think of it this way; some will say going to the gym and exercising to be strong and fit is the hard way compared to being a couch potato.
It may be hard at first, but if you practice enough it becomes second nature. For me it isn't "the Hard Way" but simply "the Way". In hunting situations I don't think about how challenging it is. It just comes together naturally.
The natural way for sure. On the ground and fair chase is what I prefer personally. Wheelies just don't even compute with me anymore. If I'm too lazy to use a bow for some reason I'd just use a gun and be done with it.
depends on the day for me, some days it's easy, some days it's not, was the same with training wheels too. I'm always on when we stump while out hunting, but shooting man made targets versus natural stuff, it's litteraly hit and miss:)
You make a good point, it's only the hard way for people who don't enjoy it. Cheers, Moleman!
There are many things that make trad hunting difficult, especially if you're not in a tree or ground blind.
Getting to draw undetected is probably the hardest. So far I can't seem to hold my bow at full draw for 2 minutes or so.
Its only as hard as you make it. If you practice, practice and practice it shouldn't be any harder then hunting with any other weapon. The only difference is shooting with in your limits. We all should know our own limits. I know guys that harvest deer all the time with a recurve or a longbow and I know guys that can't even harvest an animal with a firearm. What is the hard way ???????
I feel it's a more rewarding way.
"Hunters" these days are lazy. You can ask most any compound guy and they will tell you that most of their shots are 25yds or less. So getting into range usually isn't why most people use compounds. I believe the reason folks go with wheels is they do not want to put in the time and effort it takes to become proficient with trad gear. It has taken me 2 years of regular practice for me to feel confident out to 25yds with my trad bow. Now I can miss a week of shooting and still be proficient. With a compound on the other hand a brand new archer having no expierence can be proficient with a compound in just a few hours. Once there, a person can go all year and not shoot, and pick the bow up again and still be proficient at 30yds or less. Technology has allowed people to be "good shots" with little practice or dedication. That is why they consider traditional to be the hard way. I was one of those guys who probably shot less than 100 arrows per year from my compound. Not because I didnt want to but because I didnt have to. I quit the wheelie because in the last 2yrs I owned it I shot less than 12 arrows total, and I still could hit a softball at 50yds almost every time. Trad may be a bit "harder" but it is a whole lot more fun.
The Hard Way-maybe/maybe not. How long did it take you to reach that level of proficiency? How often do you shoot to retain that profieciency? Wheels, sights, release-especially if you've shot a gun, in a very few weeks you can be a "bowhunter". How often do "they" practice? Many break out the wheels a week or so before the season, shoot a couple dozen arrows-everything's still "dialed in", they're ready to go. Can you do that with a stick and a string???
Some people refer to something as hard when they really mean it requires more concentration and discipline than they are willing to invest.
Amen to that, Sam!!!
Interesting feedback guys. As with most endeavors, you reap what you sow, the more you put in, the more you get out, but does that really make it hard?
The path we have chosen is what gives us the greatest pleasure, which includes the dedication, practice, the challenge and hunting within our limitations, which we gladly accept as being part of what and who we are, for me thats what makes it enjoyable. Im not suggesting that its the easiest way, because it takes time and dedication with a bit of frustration thrown in to become proficient....the hard way, possibly, but challenging.....without a doubt! :banghead:
Anybody that's hunted in a public land general draw unit in a western state knows that's doing it the hard way no mater what weapon you have in your hand.
If you really want to do something the hard way, try still hunting for Iowa whitetails with a heavy metal riser compound. I tried it for the better part of a season back in the early 70s with a four wheeler Wing, it is impossible. I finished that season shooting a moving deer with a Bear takedown while I was out sneaking around. Still hunting with a longbow is still hard, but has more possibilities for success.
If we practice and use correct form with a well tuned arrow, no it's not any harder INSIDE 20 YARDS or so to kill a deer with a traditional bow. But outside 20 yards or so, YOU BET IT'S HARDER ....... and animals outside 20 yards happen a lot!
Don't confuse "simple" with "easy".
A trad bow is simple, a rifle is easy.
The proposition that compounds and trads aren't really that different since most guys shoot at 25 yards or less ignores how.
They sit very high in trees and the animal approaches them. When they have to get up on the animal those ranges get much longer.
It's also not so "hard" when it comes to abnormal positions, angles, or low light. I can shoot wheels pretty decent (but don't), and there are several situations where I think bare bow is a better choice, if getting the job done is your only consideration.
You're spot on Turk. My son went over to the "dark side" a few years back because as he said "I know to be efficient with the trad bow I have to practice alot and I don't have the time anymore to do that. With this new XYZ wheelbow I can put three arrows inside a 50 cent piece at 50 yards and I don't have to practice hardly at all! When it's huntin' time I just go get the XYZ bow off the rack, shoot a couple arrows to make sure everythings OK and go to the treestand". Well, at least I taught him the Trad way in the beginning and he took some deer too.......Hopefully, he'll come back around some day in the future. I'll keep heading afield with my quiver on my back and my trusty longbow in my hand. It's the way I love to hunt. A little harder? Yes, but, worth it every time I take a shot! :) Horserod