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Title: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 17, 2013, 03:40:00 PM
I am just finishing up some heavy hog arrows made from some cane just to show you what can be done.  This arrow is one of six just to show you, I am shooting it out of my osage bow drawing 26 1/2" and 45lbs.  The arrow weighed 737.6 grain and will gain a few more when I do the finish point work, is 28" long.  I am using 300 grains up front on these to get what I need.  Hope you enjoy
 (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Canehogarrows007_zps4068d87c.jpg)
 (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Canehogarrows006_zps7a51e173.jpg)
 (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Canehogarrows008_zpsbad2b46c.jpg)
 (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Canehogarrows005_zpsd1efab5b.jpg)
 (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Canehogarrows004_zpsd5e678a2.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 17, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
Here is the weight
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/canearrowweight001_zps8c84efc3.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Dave Bowers on March 17, 2013, 03:46:00 PM
nicely done sir..some piggy is gonna have a bad day.
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: S.C. Hunter on March 17, 2013, 04:05:00 PM
Those are really nice arrows.
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: magnus on March 17, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
Those are awesome Charlie!    :notworthy:    :notworthy:    :notworthy:
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Lee Viv on March 17, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
Looking good, Charlie!
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Brock on March 17, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
ver nice...my doug fir with 200 gr Grizzly Kokiaks are around 720gr complete.

Is that cane hard to work?
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: JAG on March 17, 2013, 05:06:00 PM
Gotta love that cane!
When you first start working with it, sure seems like a lot of trouble, but the more you do the easier it will become.
There are several videos and you-tube videos that will help getting started.  Do a search on here for some how tos or searcch for cane arrows.  You'll get lots of help.
JAG/Johnny
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 17, 2013, 05:06:00 PM
Some of it can be, but if you pick and choose when you cut, it helps.  Not all cane are alike, and each species likes it own amount of heat to make it bend, but they all work great.
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: WESTBROOK on March 17, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
Very nice work!

What are you mounting the BH on? can you put a regular taper on that cane?

Eric
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: frassettor on March 17, 2013, 05:40:00 PM
Great looking arrows
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 17, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
Westbrook, the broad head is mounted on a 40 grain screw in adapter, and that screwed into a 100 grain brass insert.  The cane is drilled out to accept the insert, and that is put in place with hot melt.  This allows me to spin the head and make sure it is true to the shaft.  Here is a picture of the components, but I did not use this broadhead.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Canehogarrows003_zpsef1d5511.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Sockrsblur on March 17, 2013, 06:38:00 PM
Beautiful looking arrow! How heavy is the broadhead? Thanks for the photos :)
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Sockrsblur on March 17, 2013, 06:41:00 PM
that last pict helps, thanks...
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: WESTBROOK on March 17, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
Thanks Charles!
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
You can also plug the cane and taper it for glue on heads. I'm not ready to haft yet but I love Stringstretcher's concept!
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 17, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
These broad heads are all around the 160 grain, 40 grain broad head adapter, and 100 grain brass insert.  The possibilities are endless with the add a weights and inserts out today.
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: glenbo on March 17, 2013, 08:24:00 PM
Great job
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Gdpolk on March 17, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
That looks awesome.  Maybe one day I'll have the time I'm willing to dedicate to truing and maintaining wood arrows.  If/when I do, I'll definitely want some cane arrows.
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: PowDuck on March 17, 2013, 09:44:00 PM
Cane arrows are just cool. One day I'm going to have to give them a try.
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: on March 17, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
Those are some beautiful sticks right there!

Good luck on the hogs.

Bisch
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 18, 2013, 11:48:00 AM
Thanks every one.  I think they are going to be the ticket this year on all my hunting journey's.
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 18, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
I went down and gathered up a few things to try this morning as I felt something was just not quite the way it should be, so I started experimenting and in fact found a couple of flaws.  The shoulder inside the cane was all one size while the collar on the insert was bigger.  Even after tapering the whole to make it work, I did not like it.  So I got out my calipers and measured everything, TWICE, and then went and found a drill that was just a few thousandths bigger to give me a little glue wiggle room.  Take not, you do not want a dull drill bit, it will crack the cane.  You do not want a sharp drill bit, it will grab and walk up inside the cane.  Lesson learned the hard way.  After getting the bit just right, I had four pieces of cane left that I could use, and went to work.  I drilled very slowly about a 1/4 down in the cane for the collar to ride down and on.  After test fitting each piece to an insert, I put my hot melt on and got the all glued in and spun up.  Looking really good.  I had also planned to put sinew wrap at the point which I did next and most of them are drying now.  I did the one that I had finished yesterday up and did the completion of it with a short cut piece of shrink tubing that I had cut to about 1/2 wide and slide up on the cane before putting the point in, only to find that I could in fact unscrew the point and take it off.  So I put the shrink tubing on, screwed the point back on, pushed the shrink tubing down against the broad head, heated it up and took my fingers and mashed the edges down, and have a rock hard, almost footed cane arrow sporting all this weight up front with no where for it to give and break.  Simply awesome. I will get a picture or two of the four finished arrows when every thing dries.  Man I really like these heavy cane arrows.
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 18, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
Got the all finished up.  One of these arrows was just used for test fitting everything and is light, but the other three are with in 40 grains of one another..
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Finishedcane001_zps9f8f1eaf.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Finishedcane003_zpscfbbf217.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Finishedcane002_zps0ecbcda4.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Finishedcane004_zpsce80d12f.jpg)
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Thumper Dunker on March 18, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
That should work.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 18, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
With today's prices on broad heads and arrow materials, it just makes sense to use some of the old stuff you have laying around to accomplish the same goals.  Don't it?
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Doc Nock on March 18, 2013, 06:33:00 PM
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie...

EFOC in a primitive arrow with screw in components?

Now that is intriguing to say the least!

Hope you get to use it on a feral piggie!
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: JamesKerr on March 18, 2013, 06:53:00 PM
Those look awesome!
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 18, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
Yep Doc, I was thinking of you and the Dr. with every process of these.  They should do some thumping for sure.  See, even us old primitive guys can go high tech and become a technie.    :notworthy:

I really did not mean for these to become interchangable, but it was what I had to work with, without going broke trying things...lol.
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 18, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
Hey Doc, wait until you see the next ones.  Going to have unibushing in the nock end.  Got any extra lighted nocks laying around??????
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Doc Nock on March 18, 2013, 08:04:00 PM
:knothead:  

Those lighted knocks came to mind soon as I saw your set up! I almost typed, What next? LIghted nocks? That was a cool thing he did!

BTW, I think that is a "blessed marriage" of past and present right there... can't wait to see the "chilluns" they produce!  :)
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Blaino on March 18, 2013, 08:21:00 PM
I'm truly impressed with your creativity and craftsmanship!

Gotta ask.... How do they fly?
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Doc Nock on March 18, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Blaino:
I'm truly impressed with your creativity and craftsmanship!

Gotta ask.... How do they fly?
I can say if Charlie built them, they fly... he's kinda picky about that stuff!
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: Brock on March 18, 2013, 10:45:00 PM
i think the 40gr difference is unacceptable...please send those to me and will mount some old heads on them while you make some better ones more suitable for your great skill and reputation.

:)   :)
Title: Re: Heavy hitting cane hog arrows(update)
Post by: stringstretcher on March 19, 2013, 06:19:00 AM
Thanks every one.  Blaino, they fly just great.  Going to take a little to get used to the weights, but man do they hit hard.

Brock, yeah that is a rather big spread in weight.  I can fix that, but did not want to take them apart again since the spin so nice like they are...lol