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Title: Thick tabs
Post by: S.C. Hunter on March 16, 2013, 06:38:00 PM
I have an american leathers big shot great glove. I have a Fred Eichler tab and it has been nice. My thing is, I enjoy using a tab. I get a little better feel for the string while drawing the bow. The problem now is I was pulling 55#-57# at my old draw length on most of my bows. I am now pulling 29.5" vs 28" before a overhaul to my form. The bow I am shooting currently is 56#@28" so I am right around 60#+ in draw weight. My question is where can I get a slightly thicker tab? I am not having a problem with pain while shooting. I am just looking to get a slightly thicker tab so the contact area is able to absorb more of the pressure from the string so the blood is not pushed from my finger tips as much. I tried a tab that another shooter had that was thicker and it worked great. He said the guy that made them is no longer around. It was fairly thick no memory groove in it but I could still feel the string very easily. My current tab and glove have a groove almost V shaped versus a rounded curl like his tab had. I saw a video of Ron La Clair shooting in the masters of the longbow I believe and I think I saw a similar tab. If anyone knows where a thicker tab can be had I am all ears.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: threeunder on March 16, 2013, 06:43:00 PM
Look at Black Widow tabs.  They're excellent.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: Zmonster on March 16, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
Super Archery Mitt or S.A.M. Tab. I shoot up to 90# and its the only tab I really like. The Skookum cordovan tab is also very thick but I can't seem to find them any longer. I used to get them from Alaskan bowhunting supply.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: RLA on March 16, 2013, 06:49:00 PM
I'm not sure where to find a thick tab? But if you like your big shot glove. I can tell you that American leathers makes a great thick glove called the Tuff shot. I have one & after some mink oil paste & break in, I like it a lot. It should last a long time.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: njloco on March 16, 2013, 06:52:00 PM
The Bateman tab has a double layer on it and it's made from the original cordovan from Japan, I have been using mine for 2 years of constant shooting and still no crease and still slippery smooth.

Good luck brother.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: BWD on March 16, 2013, 06:59:00 PM
Call the good folks at Bateman direct, and tell them what you need.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: old_goat2 on March 16, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
X3 on the Bateman Cordovan or Cordoban however it's spelled, my wife likes the black widow tab, I've tried it and it's no comparison to the Bateman at higher draw weights in my opinion.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: Shawn Leonard on March 16, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
Angel cordovan tab, you can even get them with a composite or aluminum insert which adds a thin layer of protection. Best I have ever used! Shawn
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: SportHunter on March 16, 2013, 09:33:00 PM
I have the Eichler and the Bateman, like them both but the Bateman is thicker.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: GameMaster on March 16, 2013, 10:12:00 PM
I to shoot around 58 lbs. and do like a thicker tab. I make my own, it is 2 layers of real leather and if you want to try one I'll send it for free. I have tried numerous tabs over 40 years of shooting and like my own. Being retired I have tried every material and thickness you can imagine. recurvesh@hotmail.com Good luck!
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: on March 16, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
The Saunders Pak-Tab comes with multiple layers so you can make it as thick as you need it. It is also broke in out of the box, super slick, and impervious to water.

Bisch
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: Daz on March 16, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
Another vote for the Pak-Tab...
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: Pat B. on March 16, 2013, 10:47:00 PM
You might try Rod Jenkins at Safari Tuff...
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: S.C. Hunter on March 16, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pat B.:
You might try Rod Jenkins at Safari Tuff...
Looks like a sweet tab, but I shoot split finger.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: amar911 on March 16, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
Get hold of Scott Teaschner. He makes the tabs for Rod Jenkins and also has his own line of tabs for split finger shooters. He can (if he has time) sew a second layer of leather on the back of the shell cordovan leather. Depending on what leather you choose, he can make the tab as thick as you want and still maintain the wonderful characteristics of the cordovan facing.

Allan
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: S.C. Hunter on March 16, 2013, 11:19:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by amar911:
Get hold of Scott Teaschner. He makes the tabs for Rod Jenkins and also has his own line of tabs for split finger shooters. He can (if he has time) sew a second layer of leather on the back of the shell cordovan leather. Depending on what leather you choose, he can make the tab as thick as you want and still maintain the wonderful characteristics of the cordovan facing.

Allan
Thanks
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: xtrema312 on March 16, 2013, 11:33:00 PM
The bateman I had was not as thick as my eichler tabs and didn't stay on my finger with the stretch strap. The pak-tab is okay and has a lot of layer options, but didn't hold up as long as others and I never got used to the plastic. So far the black widow super leather was the best for the thicker tabs. It has three layers.

My first eichler was quite thick and I loved it. The next one not so thick and the third the thinnest. I got used to the middle one and then the thinnest one after a while. Now the thin one is my go to with the slightly thicker one my backup. I guess the point is maybe just stick with what you have and before long you will be used to it.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: S.C. Hunter on March 16, 2013, 11:49:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by xtrema312:
The bateman I had was not as thick as my eichler tabs and didn't stay on my finger with the stretch strap. The pak-tab is okay and has a lot of layer options, but didn't hold up as long as others and I never got used to the plastic. So far the black widow super leather was the best for the thicker tabs. It has three layers.

My first eichler was quite thick and I loved it. The next one not so thick and the third the thinnest. I got used to the middle one and then the thinnest one after a while. Now the thin one is my go to with the slightly thicker one my backup. I guess the point is maybe just stick with what you have and before long you will be used to it.
I guess I got one of the thin ones.It was fine until I increased my bow weight.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: flinthead on March 17, 2013, 06:59:00 AM
Get a AAE tab, remove the screws and try different stiffness of leather to fit your needs. I also made several tabs-layers of thick leather for the back and tried several types of leather for the front. Punched and sewed them myself and it worked fine. Used the shape of the AAE tab for a starting pattern.You can vary the shape of the thick palm section with this also. Worker thru about 4 before coming up with what I was looking for. Was cheaper than buying all the different ones and everyone has their own needs in a tab. Thanks, Roy
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: Safari Scott on March 17, 2013, 07:04:00 AM
I can tell you with 100 per cent certainty that a black widow tab is the answer to your problem. I shoot about 62 at my draw and I can do it for hours without feeling anything except the string.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: LC on March 17, 2013, 07:14:00 AM
I use a Neet calf hair tab which is quite thin. Love these tabs but if I haven't been shooting for awhile I can sure tell it. I just cut me a piece of leather using  the tab as a guide and add that to the mix when needed. If your needing leather just go to the Goodwill store and you'll find what your after!   ;)
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: Ydanny on March 17, 2013, 08:57:00 AM
I agree with what others here have said in that the Black Widow tabs are the best.  I do modify them though.  I unstitch them and add a piece of thin stiff plastic to the body of the tab to make it more rigid.  I then change the facing leather with a piece of cordovan.  Like a lot things your preference in a tab is very individual.  You have to experiment and find what works for you.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: S.C. Hunter on March 17, 2013, 11:14:00 AM
Thanks there are some good suggestions coming in so far. I may end up having to modify something if I can't find the one I want.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: S.C. Hunter on March 17, 2013, 02:09:00 PM
For those that suggest the BW Tab. Does this tab have a velcro strap or that crappy stretch type. I ask because I had a nice tab but the strap lasted about a week because the no pinch rubber in that one came out and the strap followed.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: JMR on March 17, 2013, 02:23:00 PM
The BW tab has velcro. I tried a Bateman tab and ended up switching back to my BW.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: S.C. Hunter on March 17, 2013, 02:26:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JMR:
The BW tab has velcro. I tried a Bateman tab and ended up switching back to my BW.
Thanks. That may work better.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: pitt98 on March 17, 2013, 03:59:00 PM
Black Widow tab for me also.  I use the thick sewed seam as a consistent finger placement/indicator.  They are thick and pliable, and last as long as any tab I've used.

For lighter bows, I've actually cut out one of the three layers to make the tab thinner for more feel.  They are great for me, and also at a good price.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: monsterbuck on March 18, 2013, 12:04:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by njloco:
The Bateman tab has a double layer on it and it's made from the original cordovan from Japan, I have been using mine for 2 years of constant shooting and still no crease and still slippery smooth.

Good luck brother.
E.W. Bateman. Love mine. God bless.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: Retnuh Wob on March 18, 2013, 12:32:00 AM
When I started shooting trad a year ago I went to three under but could not find a tab I liked, so I started making them. I make the body of the tab from about 10 oz. leather that was listed in Tandys as "light saddle skirting." the end is cut a little short and then skived for about 1/2". I then bought some genuine Horween shell Cordovan(very expensive) and cut a small piece out and had it sewed on the end so it stuck out about 3/16". It takes a couple of weeks to break it in, but works great.  The longer you use it the slicker the Cordovan gets. The string is held where the combination of the saddle skirting and Cordovan are quite thick for protection, but where the string rolls off your fingers all there is is the thin Cordovan. It gives me a better release than anything else I have tried.

If you are interested I could Email you a picture of what they look like.
Title: Re: Thick tabs
Post by: beachbowhunter on March 18, 2013, 12:40:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Daz:
Another vote for the Pak-Tab...
And another.