Hello, all.
I'm in the process of choosing a new take down bow. Right now I'm zeroed in on the Dryad bows and am looking at all their different options. I've talked to both Mike and John, and they've given me excellent information on their offerings, but I'd like to hear from those of you who shoot Dryad bows. Specifically what length riser did you go with and why? Also, I'd be interested in knowing the overall length of your Dryad bows as well as the limb and riser combo that make up that bow.
Thanks.
Kevin
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I just picked up a set of their ilf ACS recurve limbs, put them on an off brand riser. Dropped five pounds in draw weight and picked up five feet per second in speed over my other custom wapiti and about ten feet per second over my old carbon ilf limbs. If I had the money for it all, I'd probably go for one of their bolt down limb models, but since I already had the ilf riser and found a good deal on the limbs used I went that way. Have had a number of very experienced archers try my bow out and they all wish they hadn't because it's so smooth and the performance is so high!
It's stories like yours that led me to look at the Dryad bows in the first place...
Yeah, I'm thinking seriously about picking up a set in my wife's draw weight for her to use elk hunting, but she loves her custom bow that I had made for her so much,I don't know if she would use them .
If you're determined to buy a set of new Dryad limbs and she doesn't want them go ahead and send them my way!!! :biglaugh:
A great choice. Love my one piece Dryad longbow she has the best looking bamboo limbs I've seen on a bow. Just had to give a thumbs up for Dryad :thumbsup: Jon
I really like their static recurve limb and ACS LB limbs. I am not sold on the grip on the risers, but plan to put a set of their limbs on some riser once I settle on one.
I would go with one of their ILF risers, say 15"s and a set of there static recurve limbs. That way you can buy an unlimited array of limbs from longbow to recurve. Shawn
QuoteOriginally posted by Shawn Leonard:
I would go with one of their ILF risers, say 15"s and a set of there static recurve limbs. That way you can buy an unlimited array of limbs from longbow to recurve. Shawn
Hello, Shawn. Why the 15" over the 17"?
Thanks.
Kevin
I've been shooting a 17" Epic riser with a low grip since January. I have two pair of ACS 4G longbow limbs (45 & 50#), and one pair of Epic recurve limbs. To say I have been more than impressed with this bow would be an understatement.
This is the first bow that I've ever owned that has a cut past center riser, but even after building the strike plate out quite a ways, I still need 70-75# spine in my woods. The performance of all of these limbs far exceeds my expectations. The quality of workmanship in both the riser (bought new from Mike), and the limbs (all bought used) is top drawer.
I did try two pairs of TT limbs and had fitment issues as the bolt groove is a tad deeper than other limbs. I've installed a pair of SF limbs and one other I can't recall at the moment just to see if it was the TT limbs or not. It was.
Good luck with your decision, and trust Mike's advice...nobody knows their equipment like the bowyer and what he recommends is always right on the money.
Green,
Thanks for the detailed response. Why did you go with the 17" riser rather than the 15"? What is the total length of your bow?
Thanks.
You know, there was a thread on here about bow effiecincy and some bowyer said that they did a lot of testing and the longer limbs were more efficient, I believe he was talking about dryad bows, but I can't remember now, my limbs are the extra long, so 64" bow on 17" riser. I pull 31" so a longer bow is better for me. I can use a 62", but have settled on 64" as the best length for me.
QuoteOriginally posted by old_goat2:
You know, there was a thread on here about bow effiecincy and some bowyer said that they did a lot of testing and the longer limbs were more efficient, I believe he was talking about dryad bows, but I can't remember now, my limbs are the extra long, so 64" bow on 17" riser. I pull 31" so a longer bow is better for me. I can use a 62", but have settled on 64" as the best length for me.
Thanks, David.
That's the kind of info I'm looking for. I'm going to do a search in Pow Wow and see if I can find the thread you refer to.
Kevin
I looked for it already, couldn't find it, it's possible I read it on another forum and if it was on another forum, it probably wasn't Dryad, but I am sure that I read that longer limbs are more efficient, but I also know I've read that shorter limbs are more efficent, but that was from a shooter not a builder. I think that would be a good question to ask Dryad, I know they have done a crapload of testing on effiecency etc...
I shoot an Epic 15 riser with Medium limbs for another manufacturer at 54#@29",no problem with stacking,I would think their limbs would be smoother and better than my budget limbs.
QuoteOriginally posted by Kevin Hansen:
Green,
Thanks for the detailed response. Why did you go with the 17" riser rather than the 15"? What is the total length of your bow?
Thanks.
Kevin - I shoot my bows vertically with no cant, and shoot split finger. The extra site window length gives me a clear line of sight on short shots. I'm also a fan of having a little extra mass in my riser. I like the stability as I shoot a lot of 3D. My overall bow length is 62" with the 17" riser and long limbs.
There's a comparison of higher end target limbs at TT that found there limbs to be fast & stable but a bit noisy on a 25" riser http://tradtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38767 so that might be worth checking with Mike when you're looking at choices for use - M
QuoteOriginally posted by Green:
QuoteOriginally posted by Kevin Hansen:
Green,
Thanks for the detailed response. Why did you go with the 17" riser rather than the 15"? What is the total length of your bow?
Thanks.
Kevin - I shoot my bows vertically with no cant, and shoot split finger. The extra site window length gives me a clear line of sight on short shots. I'm also a fan of having a little extra mass in my riser. I like the stability as I shoot a lot of 3D. My overall bow length is 62" with the 17" riser and long limbs. [/b]
x2 on the site window with the 17.
Marklie - I've had no issues getting my limbs quiet on a 17" wood riser. I do shoot split and only wood arrows though, and the limbs I bought all had limbsavers mounted at the fade out by the original owners. The Epic recurve limbs are actually as quiet as my longbow limbs. I only put two small wool puffs on them. I also twisted up a flemish the other day and shot it in with no silencers on the string on my 50# limbs....extremely quiet with just the limbsavers.
On another note, I shot my Epic recurve limbs at the Texas Traditional Championship yesterday. On the third target two of the guys were watching my limb tips and both asked me if I felt any let off when nearing full draw due to the profile of the tips. I do feel a slight let off, but what I really feel is the smoothest draw one could ask for (and I'm not a recurve guy). I bought them so I can shoot both longbow and recurve classes in tournaments using the same riser. Wise decision on my part (for once). :D
I have 15" Orion riser with long ACS RC limbs rated at 40#. I checked the draw weight and did a force draw curve with 7-7/8" brace height. The actual weight was 39#(40.6# at my draw lwngth of just under 29"). The string is an 8 strand continuous lood made with Brownells Fast Flight + with paded loops. AMO with this setup is 60"
I have pulled this bow out about 2" past my draw length and still no stacking. The force draw curve gave 1.6# increase between 29" and 30".
I just chronographed it today. With a 440 gr. arrow it gave 177 fps(5 shot ave.), and a 645gr.
arrow gave 152 fps(6 shot ave.)
The force draw curve showed a stored energy per pound of draw a little under what Dryad claims at .91, but the dynamic efficiency is way up there. My setup is all home made so the results are probably not as accurate as what you would get from Blacky Schwartz or Norb.
This bow seems to really like heavy arrows. A 645gr.(around Dr. Ashby's heavy bone threshold) at 152 fps out of 40# bow! I'm impressed.
I've got a 15" epic riser, the grip fits me perfect. I have a short draw, and have been looking for a dead in the hand performance, like the the versatility of the ILF system.
Thanks to one and all for your input. I'm still no closer to making a decision, but I've got lots of info to mull over in my head!
One option I'm still slightly confused on is the ILF terminology. Just exactly what does that mean?
The Dryad bow I'm looking at most seriously is the Orion with bolt down recurve limbs.
Not even sure what else to ask about regarding ILF because I am so ignorant about it.
Anyone have a simple explanation for me?
Thanks.
Kevin
QuoteOriginally posted by Kevin Hansen:
QuoteOriginally posted by old_goat2:
You know, there was a thread on here about bow effiecincy and some bowyer said that they did a lot of testing and the longer limbs were more efficient, I believe he was talking about dryad bows, but I can't remember now, my limbs are the extra long, so 64" bow on 17" riser. I pull 31" so a longer bow is better for me. I can use a 62", but have settled on 64" as the best length for me.
Thanks, David.
That's the kind of info I'm looking for. I'm going to do a search in Pow Wow and see if I can find the thread you refer to.
Kevin [/b]
It is my understanding that efficiency is based on draw length. From what I understand, you want to have a set of limbs that begins to stack right past your draw length to get the most out of the limb. Generally, short limbs cover draw lengths 27" or less, mediums 28 to 29, longs 30 to 31. This could vary by bowyer so I would verify with them to be sure.
you have bolt down risers and ILF risers, ILF=International Limb Fitting. All ILF limbs are interchangeable with all ILF risers no matter the brand. Its just a kind of limb connection that is an industry standard.
Thanks, David. Makes perfect sense to me the way that you explain it.
the one other thing to know about ILF is with each inch change in length of riser, there is an inverse 1 pound change in draw weight. So the same set of limbs on a 19" riser will be 2 pounds lighter draw than on a 17" riser. Also ILF bows are adjustable at around 10% for draw weight, you turn the limb bolt in or out like on a compound bow. The bolt down models are generally more efficent than ILF but don't have the adjustablility for tuning purposes.
I had a set of the epic static limbs with the bamboo core and they were nice. drew very smooth and easy at 50+ pounds and shot the arrow fast. Would like to try a set of the ACS recurve limbs someday
See review titled 'New Dryad Orion w/ ACS RC Limbs- Exposed'
Observation then, still holds true today.
QuoteOriginally posted by Friend:
See review titled 'New Dryad Orion w/ ACS RC Limbs- Exposed'
Observation then, still holds true today.
I will check out the review. Thank you!
Just read the review...great info! I expecially appreciate the fact that it was periodically updated long after the initial "honeymoon" stage.
Good stuff, and just what I was looking for.
One question for you, Friend; why did you go with the 17" riser rather than the 15"? Right now that seems to be one of my biggest decisions on the bow.
Thanks,
Kevin