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Title: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: mountain lion on March 12, 2013, 05:31:00 PM
Would a fella be able to put a wrap on a wood arrow? Ill only be making a dozen arrows and don't want to spend alot of money on paints and stuff, thanks!
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: jeffg on March 12, 2013, 05:35:00 PM
I have done it. Besure you get the wraps that are an inch wide for wood or aluninum the ones for carbons are to narrow.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: Flying Dutchman on March 12, 2013, 05:37:00 PM
Done it. Don't like it, but it works.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: DannyBows on March 12, 2013, 05:45:00 PM
I use them mainly because it's easier to refletch. They work well and look good.

You'll find some cool ones in the Tradgang store and Onestringer, a sponsor here, will surely have something you like. As mentoned, make sure you get the wider ones for wood arrows.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: Orion on March 12, 2013, 05:46:00 PM
A spray can of paint and some masking tape is less than $10.  Will look a lot better than wraps, IMO, but, whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: Slickhead on March 12, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
sure can

But I saw an article in PA about using shrink tubing.
Can easily be removed without residue

could be an option
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: Craig on March 12, 2013, 10:08:00 PM
Stain you crown a different color then the bottom. Put bright feathers on them. Looks a lot better then wraps on wood. Why use wood if your going to put wraps on them get aluminum or carbon shafts for wraps.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Cbireley/2013-01-27_10-05-51_379_zps13377c9e.jpg)
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: awbowman on March 12, 2013, 10:30:00 PM
You blaspheme!     :laughing:    :laughing:
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: snag on March 12, 2013, 11:05:00 PM
You're killin' me.....wraps for woodies....   :eek:

Do as Craig suggested before going to wraps...please.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: BowDiddle on March 12, 2013, 11:37:00 PM
I've seen wraps that look as good as any of the best cresting jobs out there.

The only down side is there will always be a seam with a wrap, but good wraps properly installed, and the seam is insignificant, and hardly noticeable.

In short - use the wraps if you want to. It's you you're looking to please, not any of us. 8^)
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: wooddamon1 on March 13, 2013, 01:16:00 AM
Don't put wraps on wood, Dude! You can MAKE some cool stuff for cheaper. A little creativity goes a long way...

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3271_zpsb68e4f4d.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN2890.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN1249-1.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN1166.jpg)
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: LittleBen on March 13, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
I agree with everyone here, a can of spraypaint and a roll of masking tape will nget you a better product and actually be cheaper than wraps. 1 can of paint shoudl do many dozen arrows, as will the one roll of masking tape.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: Bowsey Wails on March 13, 2013, 03:16:00 PM
The only advantage to a wrap is the ability to remove fletching by removing the wrap. This WILL remove the finish from the woodie, but it will not remove wood or gouge the wood.
Tim
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: mountain lion on March 13, 2013, 05:03:00 PM
Any certain kind of spray paint or will any work. I'm wanting a orange crown with 4 orange barred feathers and an orange nock
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: Brock on March 13, 2013, 05:14:00 PM
I am like original poster.....dont want the expense and mess of dipping and cresting at the moment...dont like the look of spray paint but love wood arrows.  Just dont have the time and space to do it right...without making wife mad for fear of having accident in office on carpet....and garage is full to the max already with cars, motorcycles, canoe, camping, hunting stands,etc...haha

And you are not going to do crisp cresting with a spray can and most of the sharpie work I see is dismal at best.  I like crisp lines and good colors if I am going to do them.....or will leave stained only.

I designed my wraps at onestringer to match my actual painted arrow design I have used for over 20 years.  Got first batch last week and other than the yellow being a bit more green than I wanted....look great.  See for yourself if you can tell....

I dare say if I took the wrap to the edge of the nock you would not be able to tell a difference if you were honest.  Especially compared to some old arrows in box behind it....

These are douglas fir shafts that I lightly burned with a torch to give some contrast in addition to the natural woodgrain.... and two coats of Minwax stain-sealer and then three coats of wipe-on poly before adding the wrap.

Wraps are very high quality...very thin..stick as if they were shrink wrapped they are so tight as I messed up one and took a while to remove but with no wood damage....and you wont find the seam on mine unless you look very, very, very closely.  Plus I bought the size for 23/64 so I could just use one size for both my shaft diameters...outstanding product.

Only thing about plain wraps is they will have a scuff on them when you shoot them unless you add the protective coat that is offered.  I usually only practice with one arrow from each dozen with so not an issue with me.
        (http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL285/1460516/24045051/405963670.jpg)


if you want to use them...then do it. hell with everyone else LOL.  I would get from onestringer though...I got some clear ones from 3Rivers to try as was worried about fletching sticking to arrows with no sealant added after Minwax stain-sealer as it is a little waxy sometimes.  Worked out nice but like OneStringer better.  You can use one of their hundreds of designs or do like I did and I got one of my arrows out and copied the design...and of two others I have....and they save in your account for use over again.

 http://www.onestringer.com/
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: Shawn Leonard on March 13, 2013, 06:37:00 PM
You have to seal the wood arrows anyway, so taken a few extra minutes and dipping or spraying or just plain old painting a crown on is not that bad and I agree that wraps on woodies just seems weird. Shawn
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on March 15, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
I do all of my arrow making (except for fletching) in my unheated shop.  Temperatures have been below 60 for quite a while.  If I need to make arrows for a hunting trip or a new bow for a 3D shoot or whatever, how do folks so adamant about not using wraps on wood suggest that I make them?  When I've got the right temps, I dip my arrows.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: Craig on March 15, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
Everything I use I can do them right in the house no smell. Been making them for over 20 years. Do you ever paint your house. You can also use house paint for the crown to keep the smell down. Dip with clear water base poly, also no smell. testors for cresting. Making wood arrows is all about the fun of making arrows.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: WESTBROOK on March 16, 2013, 12:25:00 PM
I have considered a clear wrap for just under the fletching to keep the glue from biting into the finish and make an easier refletch.

The only warm place I have to make arrows is in the house, no basement. I tried, on a whim, using those 8 oz. sample cans Home Depot will mix for $3, any color you want. Thinned it down well and used it for my crown dip. Worked well, no smell, water clean up. The only small issue is it is a very flat paint and my crestor left tracks in it so I did a quick overdip befor cresting the others.

Eric
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: Craig on March 16, 2013, 03:06:00 PM
clear them before you crest, no marks. I have lost or broke an arrow before it ever needs refletched. I have taken feathers off with a single edge razer blade and refletch before. It's not hard to do. Steel wooled and restained, cleared, refletched. Just can't be in a hurry.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on March 17, 2013, 08:42:00 AM
I have not had much luck with water based fluorescent colors-they don't seem as bright,  I have not found many sources for them either.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and wraps
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on April 14, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
An update to this post--

I went to an arts and crafts type store and found water based fluorescent paints.  I bought white, pink, and yellow.  The results for the pink are below.

   (http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s331/selfbow19953/ARROWS/WB%20Arrows/WBArrows5.jpg) (http://s509.photobucket.com/user/selfbow19953/media/ARROWS/WB%20Arrows/WBArrows5.jpg.html)
   (http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s331/selfbow19953/ARROWS/WB%20Arrows/WBArrows4.jpg) (http://s509.photobucket.com/user/selfbow19953/media/ARROWS/WB%20Arrows/WBArrows4.jpg.html)

Not bad, huh???  I used Min Wax waterbased polyacrylic on the shaft to seal it.  The I painted on the white base coat for the crown-the bottles of paint are too small to have enough to dip.  The next day I painted on the hot pink.  After a day I added an overcoat of Min Wax.  The following day a second coat.  Everything is waterbased, so as noted earlier by others, all the work can be done in the house.  I have been using waterbased cresting paints for several years.

I found the RGB (red, green, blue) codes for hot pink and fluorescent yellow.  I hope to find a paint store that can match the colors in an acrylic paint.