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Title: Slippery Moc's
Post by: kennyb on March 07, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
Hey Guys-I bought a pair of arrow moc's for my son and I but discovered they can be slippery in wet or snowy weather. I remember a post on how to make them slip proof and performed a search but could not find how to do this. Can any of you guys/gals help me out on this? Thank you.

Kenny
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: wooddamon1 on March 07, 2013, 08:41:00 PM
I've heard people say to use contact cement with ground rubber from inner tubes. You can reapply as needed.
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: Sean B on March 07, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
rap 2 leather thongs around his foot and criss cross it then tie it around the ankle.  That's what we do when we are reenacting or doing 18th c scouts.
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: on March 07, 2013, 11:00:00 PM
Two things that wilderness canoeists have doing. 1. Slip on rubbers. 2.Glue wading felt to them. 3. An Ely, Mn company can retred them by glueing on a gum sole. They retred moosehide mocs that they sell all the time, mine included.
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: joekeith on March 08, 2013, 10:50:00 AM
I use some of those slip on spikes they use for putting on over your boots, or mocs.  They only cost about $12 and are easy to carry and just slip on when needed.  I've got 2 different types, one with the spikes, and one with the springs wrapped around the bottom.  They both seem to work  about the same.   :campfire:
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: Zbone on March 08, 2013, 11:32:00 AM
Sean B - "rap 2 leather thongs around his foot and criss cross it then tie it around the ankle. That's what we do when we are reenacting or doing 18th c scouts."

Can you supply a picture or diagram on how to?... Thanx much
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: snakewood3 on March 08, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
Get some ground tire material from a truck tire repair shop. Put on a size coat of thinned orange label barge cement. Mix some of the tire material with some of the barge cement and coat sole area. Let dry and repeat if desired. This will give a great deal of slip resistance and increase water resistance while maintaining the same feel.
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: Greg Skinner on March 08, 2013, 01:14:00 PM
I wear Arrow mocs about 98% of the time year round and I second the slip-on rubber overshoes.  I use Totes.  They make a huge difference in muddy, snowy conditions.

The slip-on spikes that Joekeith mentions are also good; I'm planning to try them in dry conditions where I encounter grassy or pine-needle covered, steep hillsides.  You can pull the spikes out and just have a bit of rubber for increased traction.

I got some rubber tire crumbs with the intention of trying that on the bottom with barge cement, but I can't seem to bring myself to applying something that could potentially mess with the great "ground-feel" of the plain moccasin sole, so I can't report on whether that is an effective solution.  I like being able to just put something on when I need it and take it off when I don't.
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: chanumpa on March 08, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
Ive used the method snakewood suggested with pretty good results.I understand Greg Skinner`s concern,but still thought they had pretty good feel.It did take a lil while for the Barge glue smell to disapate.They sell strap on fishing boot felts with corks that might work good or easily e copied.
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: Stonedog on March 13, 2013, 08:16:00 AM
Buy ground up rubber....mix it to a THICK consistency with barge cement.  Be sure to do this OUTDOORS or a WELL ventilated location...on second thought...do it outside.

Apply (I use an old butter knife) as many coats as you think best to the sole...re-apply as needed.  I use this on my Footskins.....
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: sinawalli on March 13, 2013, 05:25:00 PM
X4 or the tire crumbs and contact cement! I have a pair of Arrow Bush Boots and a pair of three lace ones. It makes a huge difference! I wear the 3 lace ones year round. If it wears out, put some more on. Here, I can get a large sandwich bag (ziploc one)stuffed for free. A 40 lb. bag is $8.00!
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: Green Arrow on March 13, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
anyone have a picture of what that ground up tire looks like on a moccasin?
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: Zbone on March 15, 2013, 08:56:00 AM
No pix???
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: sinawalli on March 16, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y491/sinawalli/5E81F5EC-9F9F-4448-A591-DCF7EE39E902-31489-000021484A394E09_zps5f263f89.jpg)
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y491/sinawalli/E32FD7EA-5741-446F-8909-B1ECFECCD6F9-31489-000021484E54B02E_zps2a4b14b7.jpg)
Here are mine, in need of a touch up!
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: Zbone on March 16, 2013, 03:28:00 PM
sinawalli - Thanx much...

Sean B - Got pix of the "leather thongs"

Thanx
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: kennyb on March 16, 2013, 06:43:00 PM
This is great guys! First question-where do you get ground rubber? Does this void the warranty for Arrow mocs? Just wondering....Thanks!

Kenny     :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Slippery Moc's
Post by: robtattoo on March 17, 2013, 12:10:00 AM
Y'all need to learn to use y'alls feets.

Rubber is for car tires! The best way to stop your slick-soled mocs from slipping on wet or muddy ground is to slow down, look where you're putting your feet & learn to grip with your toes. I'm a pretty recent convert to moccasins, but before I switched to them I went barefoot for 6 months of the year. These days I wear moccasins (Poppens & Dyers) through late fall, winter & early spring, the rest of the year I simply don't bother at all.
You just can't walk in slick, soft soles or bare feet the way you do in heavy rubber soles. You need to pay a little more attention where you're putting your feet & slow down a bit. Walking in modern shoes/boots is basically just falling & catching yourself on your front foot. In mocs or bare, you need to place more emphasis on your back foot. Don't take all of your weight on the falling foot, take your weight on your back foot until you know your front footing is secure.