Viewing this previous post about arrows, typical wts., equip etc. http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=124819
Made me think how cool it would be to have a spreadsheet or something like that (I am not good at this stuff) where Tradgang folks could post this type of info. Would be great to see averages etc.
Just an idea. I have no idea how it works with you Admins. A 'Resource' post???
Thanks
Dan- shoveling out in KS
I think that's gonna be a tough one. Just because you are going to find people literally all over the board.. Draw weights. Draw length (if actual) arrow weights tip weight. I am by NO means a techie. But it would be one hell of a task.
I might be able to help but I am not sure exactly what you are wanting to see. A list of bow weights and broadhead weights? Ratios?
Nothing fancy (easy to say I know!). But take that answers from the previous post and have them in some chart form- no calculation or anything. Any trad member could post his numbers in some chart/column form. . . bow type, maker, draw length, draw wt, string, typical arrow set up- shaft type, length, tip wt, over all wt., typ game for that set-up. It could just be a running list/resource that people could refer to for lots of reasons. I do not know how to do it, but it would be cool if members could then access the chart and even study it per category/column. Sure would be a great resource from Tradgang.
Individual results would be all over the board, but I'd be willing to bet that averaging things out would produce some good results for dynamic spine, etc if you got enough data.
As far as 'nothing fancy' goes, for it to be worthwhile you'd need as much info as possible. Verifying the accuracy of the data would be a problem too.
That being said, we have to be wary of all the differences in form and shooting style that numbers don't account for.
You guys are thinking too much. All I was suggesting was a form where we could log each of the items. All the info has ALREADY been done on the previous post I listed (as well as dozens of other posts over the years).
These types of threads come up regularly here on Trad gang. Just thought it may be simple to have a Tradgang resource where we could post our personal info in some useable form. When anyone had a question like the previous post, they could just look it up and see the outfits we are shooting.
No "accuracy" of info is needed. For example: Black Widow SA, #53, 30.5" draw. 5575 GT. 31" length. 225gr tip. 540 gr total wt. Put that info in columns. It would be valuable for many to compare, etc.
Don't make the suggestion more complicated than need be. Nothing technical about the information. The only technical thing is how to have an ongoing form on Tradgang.
Dan excel would be a nightmare to integrate to the site and it isn't user friendly. Too many hands or even 2 and the cell get messed up etc.
The simplest way to do what you mentioned might be start a fresh thread. I don't know if shooters forum is the place for it or not. You could ask the mods.
Anyway take the info from the thread you mentioned and if you want more solicite more on a powwow thread. Then just do a basic chart in the posting. For ex.
Bow. Arr lgth. Make Gr head. Ttl gr
BlkWidow SA, #53, 30.5"5575 GT. 31"Ttl 225gr tip. 540
With what info you think would be useful. You can Edit your top thread so as folks reply you can add their info in the top thread. And just keep it going like the Howard hill thread. I think that would be the easiest way and accomplish what you want. Just a suggestion .
https://sites.google.com/site/bowsetup/home/survey
If you want me to change some columns I can do that. I sort of just slapped this together, so we can change column names or whatever too. Assuming folks are interested in trying to get people to enter their data this should work.
Right, so, trying to grab existing data from a thread would be a long and painful ordeal. However, if people would be willing to fill out a spreadsheet, then we have some standardized data that I can clean up and analyze without too much pain. The results can then be put into a thread and since the document is public anybody can take a look at any time they want to and use excel or free version (e.g. openoffice) to play with the data.
This could be cool, if anyone participates.
Josh
I entered some data but see 2 problems. First, you have to have excel to open the link and second you can't save the file online, only a local copy.
Greg
Awesome Josh. Got your PM too.
So- I am pretty lame at this stuff. I did put my info in. But how do you "save" it so others then can view it. ??
Couple more columns: Total arrow wt. Primary hunting use/animal.
Great idea if it works.
Dan
Found a solution...see link above or below.
Still does not save my info??
Ok, here is a google site that should be easy for everyone to access. The data is saved automatically in a spreadsheet that is locked and no software is required of any user.
https://sites.google.com/site/bowsetup/home/survey
Again, if you really need something added to the form let me know, but I doubt we will reach a consensus on this first time around. Let's get some data first and put it together before we get too picky about what is going to be collected. We will have to make changes in the near future when what we want is confronted by the information we have.
Josh
done wouldnt let me click on the selection buttons for ex number fletching but I wrote in 4
Fixed it...
Thanks for testing Converml!
yea thats what I did . worked well the second time
Fixed issues, my comment no longer relevant...
https://sites.google.com/site/bowsetup/home/survey
having problem now. The only field it will let me edit is the question field if i click on the place to answer it takesme to the form but when I go to enter it flips me back to the first form for editing questions
ok trying again
That time it went well.
Glad it worked and thanks for testing.
No problem thanks for you work
Ok, I fixed everything. In the end the easiest thing to do was to create a webpage for the form and database it can be found at the following link.
https://sites.google.com/site/bowsetup/home/survey
If you would like to enter data please do. Please keep answers short, free of special characters and units are not necessary. If people participate this should prove very useful to all of us. After the form is finished google will produce some charts and graphs with the data on hand to summarize the previous responses. It is pretty slick for very little effort on my part. Thanks to this thread for giving me something to obsess over tonight.
As for modifications to the form, we should have a discussion and see what you want on your form and what you want from the data.
Looking forward to our little experiment!
Josh
I acn see only the left portion of the data base.
Cherokee- works fine, just use cursor arrows and scroll it over.
Josh- This is AWESOME! Thanks. This could really become a VERY useful tool. Another resource that makes Tradgang a pretty great site.
A couple thoughts: Could instructions for the survey explain to fill in all boxes- even with NA if they like? Could we make the species we hunt check as many as apply?
Moderators- can we put this in a prominent/useable place? Is that appropriate??
Dan- shoveled out in KS.
KSdan - I will make the changes you suggested this evening. Glad you like your idea in motion!
Ok I lied, done and done. Now back to work...