I'm thinking about booking a hunt the first or second week of September before the rut. The outfitter is booked up for the rut so I thought I'd check here to see if it's worth hunting early. Thanks for your help.
Terry
I would wait and go next year during the rut. Early hunts can be tough especially if it's warm.
Will be there the last week and a half of sept. Guide says he can almost guarantee us moose. Last sept a friend took a 40+ incher!
What matt said x2. gettin into bow range is very difficult unless they are responding to calls. Killed mine at thirteen yards late sept. Good luck
I hunted the northern part of Newfoundland in 2003 for my moose. I believe it was the second week of September. I killed my moose at about 1pm the second afternoon and had saw 42 moose by then. I am not sure it makes much difference when you go, there are so many moose on the island. Talk with your outfitter and go with what they suggest. You will really injoy your self. Good luck and keep us posted.
I don't know Newfoundland, but I would be one that would wait until I could hunt the very best week available.
We just had Nathan Andersohn as a speaker at our WTA banquet and he did a seminar on booking guided hunts. That was one of his main points - regardless of the species you will improve your chances of success if you pick the very best week of the year.
Think about it - if you were hunting whitetails in Iowa would you rather hunt early October or the first week of November? Sure, you can shoot a good buck in October, but I would take November every time. Same applies to elk, moose, or just about any species that has a sexual drive.
I'm not saying not to talk to your outfitter, but keep in the back of your mind that he is running a business. He must book hunts during the entire season if he is going to stay in business. He certainly isn't going to say that early is no good.
Just my two cents, for what it is worth.
When I questioned the outfitter he did say I would be better off booking during the rut in 2014. He said it's hard enough getting into compound range the first 2 weeks much less stick bow range. It will cost $1000 more next year.
Greg, what outfitter did you use?
Will be there Oct 12 this year.
Don't know about Newfoundland but in Ontario I would really be worried about the weather being too warm. We usually hunt the last week in September and that is beginning to be iffy temperature wise. :thumbsup:
Werner, any suggestions up your way for moose.
Also did you go bear hunting last year?
Do not go unless the rut is on. They are not easy to stalk and getting close is very tough without the ability to call them in. Been there...done that....
If you haven't hunted NF it is nxt to impossible to give advice in my opinion. I was there in 2006 first week and 4 of 6 archery hunters including me arrowed bulls with max shot distance about 32 yds. Most were 30 and under. I was into moose from the first morning till 11am and every evening with lots of choices and multiple stalks.. If you can stalk patiently, use your head they don't have to be rut crazed and dumb to kill them.
I hunted with Tuckamore Lodge. If I remember correctly, that year during the 2 week early archery season, There were 8 moosed killed out of 12 bowhunters. I think everyone had an opportunity, with in good bow range. If you get the wind in your favor and take your time, you can get within range.
Rut is not only for a week or two... If you have a great guide, that knows what he's doing , he'll put you on moose at bow range even mid september.
Is the outfit you are dealing with, use to trad bow hunters? Do they have a guide or two that actually are trad bow hunters?
Just some thoughts!
Good luck
what outfitter are you going with?
I do know there are some very good outfits in Newfoundland, and no doubt about it - you have a good chance at a moose with them during any part of the season. If it were my money though (and someday I hope it is) I would be looking to maximize my odds with the best possible week. It will vary somewhat from one year to the next depending on weather, etc. But overall, I would think there is a certain time period that will be at least somewhat better than the others. Even the outfitter indicated that to you.
Another factor I would probably take a look at is moon phase. I really don't know if it makes a difference or not - I generally disregard the moon and simply hunt any time I get a chance. But there sure seem to be a bunch of people that complain about the full moon messing them up on all kinds of different species. If given a choice, I would at least try not to schedule it during a full moon.
For most of us a trip like that won't come around very often in our lifetimes. Why not try to schedule it to give you every advantage possible? If nothing else, I would love to experience the adreniline rush of a rut crazed moose grunting with every step as he waves his rack from side to side on the way in. That is what my moose dreams are made of. :D
QuoteOriginally posted by LBshooter2:
what outfitter are you going with?
Ray's hunting lodge
http://www.huntnewfoundlandmoose.com
I suppose I should have expounded a little more on my opinion. I went to Newfoundland in 2011 and hunted with Rays. Our hunting started on October 17th. The rut was completely over and stalking is very tough. Rays areas are mostly in the mountains which and consist of rocks or bogs. The bogs can wear you down pretty quick and I personally fell twice the first day from walking in the rocks. There are rocks everywhere from baseball size to as big as a van.
If someone tells you moose are dumb, don't believe it. We glassed moose a half to a mile away and they would be looking right back at us. After a short time they would turn and run into cover. I saw over 60 moose over the 6 days and finally was able to stalk within 35 yards of a cow. She was in very thick cover and the wind gave me away before I could get an open shot. The wind blows incessantly and is somewhat fickle.
There was 8 hunters in camp, 5 trad hunters, 1 compound shooter, and 2 rifle hunters. One recurve shooter killed a bull at 38 yards, the wheely shooter killed his at 52 yards. These 2 were the only moose killed. One of the rifle hunters missed in his opportunity. The other never fired a shot.
As I said earlier, if you are hunting with a bow, only go when the rut is on. If you have more questions about Rays, shoot me an email and I will help all I can.
QuoteOriginally posted by nontypical:
Will be there the last week and a half of sept. Guide says he can almost guarantee us moose. Last sept a friend took a 40+ incher!
Let us know how it goes, Pete.
Terry, hunted at Ray's a couple of years ago, went in Sept. Great place, guides know what their doing and will work hard to get you a moose. Four of us went,two of us shot mouse, I shot a cow at about 35 yards and a bull, about 40" was shot at about 15 yards. As stated rocks and bogs, go in shape, lots of walking.
QuoteOriginally posted by modr:
Terry, hunted at Ray's a couple of years ago, went in Sept. Great place, guides know what their doing and will work hard to get you a moose. Four of us went,two of us shot mouse, I shot a cow at about 35 yards and a bull, about 40" was shot at about 15 yards. As stated rocks and bogs, go in shape, lots of walking.
Sorry you only got a mouse. :biglaugh:
Thanks for all the help guys, looks like I'm going to wait until next year or find an outfitter with an opening during the rut.
Second choice, elk.
Don't know much about hunting in nuffy land
Here in Yukon, pre rut starts in and around 10 of september, Some of the biggest moose I've guided for where in the pre rut. The big bulls are moving much more in the pre rut, Once the rut is on, the big guys just holdup and let cows come to them
Your hunting the windy days, getting close to a none Rutting bull is not easy. If the outfitter can shave money of the cost. why not? He needs to book that slot
If you can't be in the prime of the rut, it is better to be in the pre-rut than after the rut is one. I think from the second week of september on to the rut, is better than after the rut in october.
Of course, you have to take in consideration moon phase, you don't want to be there when it is full moon, cause they tend to move at night, and that is no good for you.
One more thing
Rut has 2 peaks here in the Yukon
First Rut is normally going good by 20 september,
Cows that don't breed or did not catch first go around. Will come in season mid october again, that can be a very active rut, but normally does not last long
what does a hunt typically cost
Rays hunting and fishing
QuoteOriginally posted by fujimo:
what does a hunt typically cost
Next year at Ray's is $6,500.