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Title: Vintage Gear ( More Pics Added)
Post by: wooddamon1 on February 14, 2013, 06:51:00 PM
I was working on getting my little arrow shack back in shape for when it warms up some and came across some 1950s stuff a guy named Glen Wilson, of Spring Lake, MI gave me a while back before he passed away.

I snapped a few photos of the arrows and assorted other gear. I also have 4 or 5 of his bows, all of which are in various states of disrepair, unfortunately.

Enjoy the pictures and if anyone knows what the broadheads are, feel free to chime in and let me know. 2 are Hilbre with the plastic ferrule, I know that only because the name is on them.

Some artwork on one of the two home made arrow boxes.

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Inside. Almost all these hunting arrows have the broadheads I'm wondering about, which I have better pics of that I'll show in a bit.

 (http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3216_zps5c285617.jpg)

Some back tags from 1956-59...

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Some tabs, a couple "Wilson" tabs and a "Kantpinch"...

Also a few NFAA score cards and stuff from old shoots in Grayling, including a little better shot of those heads...

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Title: Re: Vintage Gear ( More Pics Added)
Post by: wooddamon1 on February 14, 2013, 06:57:00 PM
Here's the contents of the other box, they look like flight or target arrows to me.

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(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3223_zpse34305bd.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3220_zpsb96d0967.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3221_zps93cfae12.jpg)

Enjoy the photos. I'm already plotting a redo on the wood arrows...they're all still straight.
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Post by: ChuckC on February 14, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
the black ones look like Hilbre heads (a pretty popular head in the day) and the silver ones look like a head called a Blood Trail, made in MI during the 50's.  Closer / better pix of the latter could reveal more about the particular version.

ChuckC
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Post by: Hermon on February 14, 2013, 07:26:00 PM
Wonderful piece of history he gave you! Thanks for sharing them with us.
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Post by: T-Bowhunter on February 14, 2013, 07:30:00 PM
Thanks for sharing!
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Post by: maineac on February 14, 2013, 07:30:00 PM
That is very cool.  Especially because you have a connection to it!!
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Post by: wooddamon1 on February 14, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Thanks guys. I took some clearer pics of the broadheads I'm wondering about. My camera isn't that great up close.

ChuckC, they look silver in that pic but they're actually black/dark grey. I wouldn't shoot these at anything big, but they look like some good small game heads...

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3227_zpsa80622f0.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3238_zps371e8e2d.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3241_zps4d153c52.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3231_zpsa958598c.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Gear ( More Pics Added)
Post by: David Yukon on February 14, 2013, 08:21:00 PM
Nice collection! And I agree those bh look like they would be great on small game... What were they intended uses??
Title: Re: Vintage Gear ( More Pics Added)
Post by: wooddamon1 on February 14, 2013, 08:28:00 PM
I'm thinking big game but I could be wrong, most of the wood hunting arrows have these heads and the licenses are for archery hunting deer. He never explained much about the stuff other than a cut-up recurve building form laying by his fire pit.
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Post by: Tater John on February 14, 2013, 09:06:00 PM
'raghorn' knows...I'll bet a dollar
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Post by: wooddamon1 on February 14, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
I'm not taking that bet! LOL I was thinking of posting this on the history/collector forum but I figured more people would enjoy seeing this stuff over here.
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Post by: raghorn on February 14, 2013, 10:12:00 PM
ChuckC got it. But I'll add a little bit. These were made in 1956. This one has the ridges and there were others that didn't. There are also two sizes of vent openings;   .65 and .50. These appear to be the .65 The .50 is more rare. The experimental heads were a tube cut on an angle and sharpened.
I don't understand this thought that if a head is not made out of a machined block of steel, and is really thick, and has a single bevel, then it must be a small game head. These Blood Trail heads killed deer...fact. Maybe not the best design, but that is why there are around 4000 known broadheads. Everybody thinks they have  a better way of doing it.
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Post by: wooddamon1 on February 14, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
Great info, Ron, thanks! I have no doubt these heads killed deer, I had just never seen them before they were given to me. It's cool that the oldest tag is also from 1956. I have some calipers in the garage I'll measure the opening with.

Another thing I wonder is what kind of arrows are the wood ones? They have no markings I could see, but they resemble Bear arrows I've seen. Pretty neat whatever they are. New feathers, nocks and tips and they should be good to go.
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Post by: ChuckC on February 14, 2013, 10:51:00 PM
Yup, those were designed to open up channels to bleed better (big game).  Course, I wonder if anybody actually sharpened them.

There were a bunch of strange ideas for broadheads tried out over the years. Some were really good and stuck around, others, for some reason, just didn't.  (some of them, for OBVIOUS reasons, didn't)

ChuckC
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Post by: KSdan on February 14, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
Love to see more pics/angles of boxes!  Those are cool too.  Much nicer than modern world plastic.
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Post by: wooddamon1 on February 14, 2013, 11:13:00 PM
I'll get some up tomorrow, weather permitting. They are pretty cool. One has an arrow holder that rotates up on a dowel as you can tell in a couple pics.
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Post by: Hopewell Tom on February 15, 2013, 06:36:00 AM
I love those boxes. I was just looking at my 2013 3R's catalog this morning and see those same arrow clips advertised. Now, I've got an idea for their use...
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Post by: bartcanoe on February 15, 2013, 07:33:00 AM
That is really cool.  I'm with the others interested by the boxes.  That would be a great little woodworking project.

Dave
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Post by: Jack Shanks on February 15, 2013, 08:02:00 AM
Great find Damon! Thanks for sharing it.
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Post by: wooddamon1 on February 15, 2013, 01:23:00 PM
I took a few more pics for you guys that like the boxes...the one with the green felt inside is the carved one. This must have taken some time.

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3242_zpsc5a7633b.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3243_zpsa93c6683.jpg)

Here's the plain one, still a nice box...

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3245_zpsee36fc4f.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3245_zpsee36fc4f.jpg)

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3246_zps01fd4d16.jpg)
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Post by: Centex on February 15, 2013, 03:10:00 PM
Did not notice the arrow stand in the other pictures.  That is a cool design.
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Post by: KSdan on February 15, 2013, 03:37:00 PM
Thanks.  Very Nice
Title: Re: Vintage Gear ( More Pics Added)
Post by: wooddamon1 on February 15, 2013, 06:13:00 PM
Ha, double posted a pic instead of adding this one. This arrow stand is actually on a dowel or piece of shaft to stay attached, the other can be removed.

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN3244_zpsa4620c00.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Gear ( More Pics Added)
Post by: Jon Stewart on February 15, 2013, 07:43:00 PM
Glen Wilson, there is a name from the past.  My dad and Glen were good friends.  Glen made bows at his house, I believe in the basement.  His bows should have an orange sticker on the limb outlined in black.  Mine has Pharoah by Wilson. His bows have a tendancy  to come apart so be careful shooting them.

The Muskegon Bowman button is interesting. I am a life member and have been a member since the 50's. Can you tell me what the green patch says.  Port City Bowhunters by chance?

My wife and live not far from where the Wilsons used to live. Thanks for posting this stuff.
Title: Re: Vintage Gear ( More Pics Added)
Post by: Jon Stewart on February 15, 2013, 07:50:00 PM
Never mind on the green patch I used a magnifyer and it's NFAA patch.  The aluminum arrows look like 6 fletch made by a local arrowmaker by the name of Ole Olsen.  

PM me with what the other paperwork says if your would, scorecard etc.
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Post by: wooddamon1 on February 16, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
I was hoping you'd see this, Jon. I figured with all the NFAA stuff in the boxes your Dad might know him. I was telling my Gramp about meeting a guy who's Dad helped build the cabin next to his old place and he mentioned your Dad was a shooter back in the day. I'll check out that paperwork and PM ya.