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Title: Breasting
Post by: rkelly on February 09, 2013, 02:03:00 PM
The last couple of years I've started out with POC spined 10# - 15#.
Too heavy and have breasted them down to the spine I wanted.
I think they fly better than just the 9" to 10" taper.  Anyone else tried this? And what were your results?  It adds FOC for sure.

However, cannot get them to bare shaft, always show too stiff. But shoot great after fletched.
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: jsweka on February 09, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
OK - I've got to admit ignorance here.  I've never heard the term "breasting" when it comes to arrows.  What exactly do you mean - tapering?
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: rkelly on February 09, 2013, 02:21:00 PM
jsweka:
Chested or breasted is the same thing.
Gradual taper from head to nock
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: grouseshooter002 on February 09, 2013, 02:49:00 PM
rkelly,
The taper that you are referring to is actually a rat tail taper. The breasted shaft is a shaft with the parallel section moved back of the foc. The front taper maybe as much as 15" and the nock end taper would still be about 10". Not trying to be critical, but just wanted to clarify the terminology.

Regards,
Grouse
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: jsweka on February 09, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
Hmmm...Learn somethin' everyday.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Gordon Jabben on February 09, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
Seem to fly better for me also although I make the front taper about 10".
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: rkelly on February 09, 2013, 03:20:00 PM
Thanks for the clarification grousesshooteb
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Izzy on February 09, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
Thre   :knothead:   ad title got me excited.
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: snag on February 09, 2013, 05:45:00 PM
Richard, that is the way I make most of my own personal arrows. I take a 23/64" shaft and put a 4" front taper down to 11/32" at the point, then a 10" back taper down to 5/16" at the nock end. You achieve weight forward and you have the shape of a javelin for the best aerodynamics. They fly better than any other form.
I call it the "Wilderness taper".
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Bjorn on February 09, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
I do what snag does except with an 11/32 shaft............taper fore and aft.
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Rufus on February 09, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
Is that what I always thought was a "barreled" shaft or is it a different thing?
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: frassettor on February 09, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Izzy:
Thre    :knothead:    ad title got me excited.
:biglaugh:
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Froggy on February 09, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
Im with Izzy...... major letdown !!
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: larry on February 09, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
this thread wasn't what I was expecting.  :smileystooges:
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Arrowhead80 on February 09, 2013, 09:25:00 PM
Thats the term i would use when i sneak in for a squeeze on the old ladys funbags.
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Knawbone on February 09, 2013, 09:55:00 PM
Arrowhead, Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!    :biglaugh:    :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Fletcher on February 09, 2013, 10:59:00 PM
A barrel taper shaft is tapered symmetrically fore and aft; a brested taper has the forward taper longer than the tail taper as Grouse stated.  I've always heard the short front taper to 11/32 referred to as a "hunter taper".  I'll use it with a 23/64 shaft to make the points fit better.  Of all the tapers, I like a rat tail taper the best, it just takes more time, work and shafts to match up a set.
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: magnus on February 09, 2013, 11:17:00 PM
X2 what Fletcher said. That's what I was taught long ago by my mentor.
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Hopewell Tom on February 10, 2013, 01:45:00 PM
That's interesting to note, Snag.
I'll be getting a red themed set from you this year sometime(When I get settled on a new Cari-Bow) and will be looking for the Wilderness Taper on them.
Gotta figure the Fletchers' own arrows to be the best of the best...
Nice to learn a new archery term to boot.
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Kris on February 10, 2013, 03:51:00 PM
Rufus, yes...breasted = barrel tapered.

Kris
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Rufus on February 10, 2013, 04:26:00 PM
Be curious to see how the paradox changes with shafts tapered in different manners. Seems to me thinner is going to bend more and quicker than the thicker parts. Of course it's really a moot point because no two pieces of wood will ever bend the same anyway. Not disputing anything guys, just a curiosity.
 I used to barrel shafts just cause.
I always taper 23/64 down to 11/32 on the nock end, about 9" of gradual taper, but that's just to make the nocks fit nice. Sometimes the point end of an 11/32, which I normally shoot, is a bit bigger than it oughta be so I'll taper that for 3"-4" to make the point fit well.
Normally anymore if my release is good for the day and the arrows are spined for my longbow I can see no difference in arrow performance tapered or not. If they be hitting where I'm looking and they ain't wobbling around I'm happy. That's pretty much like my "pretty arrow" days are pretty much over too. Make'em so they shoot good and they ain't ugly and go for it.   Don't hurt near as bad to lose a "plain" arrow as it does a pretty one    ;)    ;)    Have good'n y'all.
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: snag on February 10, 2013, 05:03:00 PM
Rufus, it doesn't hurt to break a nice looking arrow. What hurts is loosing one that still has lots of good shots in it!    ;)
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Rufus on February 10, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
I'll buy that.    :)  I glad I don't miss as much as I used to but I still don't hit'em all.  :~)) Maybe a tapered shaft is more able to bury deeper   :knothead:    :knothead:   .
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Ed Frye on February 10, 2013, 05:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Arrowhead80:
Thats the term i would use when i sneak in for a squeeze on the old ladys funbags.
Your kill'n me    :laughing:    :laughing:
Title: Re: Breasting
Post by: Arrowhead80 on February 11, 2013, 10:04:00 PM
Could not resist. I understand that part of it, the rest is too technical.