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Title: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: overbo on February 05, 2013, 05:12:00 PM
Habu carbon longbow.Been shooting this bow for 4 years now and have had several other bows in that time and I'm always surprised how well designed the Habu is in comparison.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Guss on February 05, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Overbo, I've got a Habu coming at the end of the week, can't wait...!!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: mooseman1967 on February 05, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
OK, I'll bite. Here's one my friend Cory "Heartlandbowyer" made for me last month. 62"  55@28 padauk and black palm. It points real well and really spits an arrow. Dave
 (http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/dmanwarren/100_2852_zpscda8b9c4.jpg)
 (http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/dmanwarren/100_2818.jpg)
 (http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/dmanwarren/100_2794.jpg)
 (http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/dmanwarren/100_2793.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Nativestranger on February 05, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
Fantastic design!  I love rear mounted limbs myself. This one reminds me of the black swan hybrid but better since its wood.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Safari Scott on February 05, 2013, 09:30:00 PM
I've never understood the rear mounting, just looks so... Clunky. But if you're into that sort of thing the guy who makes eagle wings seems to be right up there with TIM Mullins in terms of craftsmanship and looks. (I like his traditional ones better though  ;)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Nativestranger on February 05, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
Rear mounted for take downs puts the grip forward of the limb fades similar to forward handle one piece bows. In theory it should improve forgiveness and promote better limbs to string angle at a given brace height. Though i am not a bowyer or an expert ob this. The fastest production bow I believe is Back Swan and it's rear mounted.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: LITTLEBIGMAN on February 05, 2013, 09:57:00 PM
mooseman that is one slick looking stick.

Here is my hills country bobcat that I named "Anubis"
 (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8044/8386833681_abea2bc222.jpg)
i like the way it shoots
 (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8217/8362183963_d5511db480.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on February 05, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
Waits for the huge wave of BlackWidows to show up.
Nice Hill country and that other bow isn'ttoo shabby either.
God bless you all, Steve
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Over&Under on February 06, 2013, 01:13:00 AM
Timberghost bows are some sweet shooters!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Jhoneil1 on February 06, 2013, 03:05:00 AM
Don Brown's Kobra Striker. Only about 7 were made.

   (http://jhoneil.smugmug.com/photos/i-WfsGgp3/0/M/i-WfsGgp3-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: 59Alaskan on February 06, 2013, 07:56:00 AM
another Hill Country Bobcat here.  This one is named Coco Loco.  I believe forward riser bows are more forgiving and stable.

  (http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa337/ceme24/B49E893A-E8A0-4DD9-822B-6CDA39E52224-13640-00000A3EB571CCE5_zps7cea45e6.jpg)

  (http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa337/ceme24/7E5E7613-CE10-435E-A6C3-ADABC6344330-38683-00001F225A2FC968_zps8ee5e1d9.jpg)

  (http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa337/ceme24/D04813D7-1A01-4568-8593-AFA5F7FCAA30-14947-00000C9743F7E76E_zps3d4fe9fd.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: David Spear on February 06, 2013, 08:04:00 AM
(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy218/shrew331/B8267B96-DFE7-4CDD-A61B-D63272D7F12F-16746-00001A287B76CA62.jpg)
 (http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy218/shrew331/18C4CD33-A5AC-4600-AC37-15DCB503990D-16746-00001A2867A6DC32.jpg)
 (http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy218/shrew331/F2129B09-F5A6-4F56-AFC2-6127EF2500DC-16746-00001A2861B6CA2C.jpg)
 (http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy218/shrew331/35A28F33-EBFD-4398-90B1-6A45B5DE6904-16746-00001A2846FC0EBD.jpg)
 (http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy218/shrew331/625C5F70-CE2C-4ADC-A085-A9E6E627F0F1-16746-00001A28510E0059.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Bowwild on February 06, 2013, 08:05:00 AM
Tried to post from photo bucket. Resize edit didn't take. Some days it works and other days it doesn't.  Must not work when the month has an "R" in it.

Makes all this a lot less fun.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: pamike on February 06, 2013, 08:10:00 AM
Habu Vyperkahn, Hill country Bobcat and Eagle Wing Talon - all Excellent belly mount bows!!!  They are by far the best i have found.

mike
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on February 06, 2013, 10:02:00 AM
Of all the rear mount bows I've handled, i never really appreciated any of them until this one arrived on my door step. This is an Eagle Wing Tallon II with all the bells and whistles...

The craftsmanship alone was enough to make me set down and hold it in my hands like a new born child.
Amazing.... Simply amazing...

After putting it together, and getting her strung.... The feel of my hand sliding into the grip as i put a bit of tension on the string, was a perfect match to my wrist rotation and palm swell, and the balance of this riser was unlike any other belly mount riser I've ever held.

The draw was butter smooth all the way to anchor, and the pressure point on the grip felt like it was sculptured to my hand. most likely because it was....The way this bow shoots is flat out incredible..... Absolutely dead in the hand. excellent flat trajectory that shoots right where you are looking, and hard hitting.....

I think what i appreciate most about Steve's beautiful bows is the heart and soul he puts into every one of them..... When you put one of these in your hands you can feel the passion the man has for his trade, only to be exceeded by his passion for the Lord.

  (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0021.jpg)  

  (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0004.jpg)

  (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0033.jpg)

  (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0037.jpg)

  (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0034.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Thumper Dunker on February 06, 2013, 03:00:00 PM
Heres mine . Nothing real fancey but it shoots good. Named it Kitty Kat. From rainy day bows. 60" 52@28
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/timkoi/026-11_zpscdeaa909.jpg)
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/timkoi/032-10_zpsa191c6f9.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: ron w on February 06, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
What ....no Black Widows   :archer:
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Bowwild on February 06, 2013, 07:48:00 PM
Here are a couple pictures of a Habu Vyperkahn (recurve). It is cocobolo. I sold this one and replaced with a Bocote version last January.

 (http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/640HabuonDeerTarget_zpscbad3a4b.jpg)

 (http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/Jan22012Download012_zps3d1fc365.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: A.S. on February 06, 2013, 08:10:00 PM
Roy, that Habu is absolutely one of the finest bows that I have had the pleasure of shooting!

I would love to own another one some day!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Hermon on February 06, 2013, 09:07:00 PM
Kirk-
Please forgive my ignorance, but Steve who?
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on February 06, 2013, 09:29:00 PM
Me Steve, I built this for a fellow Trad Gamg member
Kirk I forgot how pretty that bow was.

God bless you all, Steve.
 (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Ryan/ryan17.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Guss on February 06, 2013, 10:41:00 PM
C'mon guys..... Where's Jon....? Let's see some pics of some Habu's...!!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Trux Turning on February 07, 2013, 01:24:00 AM
Here's a bow I got in a trade- it's a nice shooter...
 (http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/Pirate%20trade%20bow%202011/PirateTradeBow2011059.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:43:00 AM
Guss I'm at work right now so can't do pics at the moment. But I'm very partial to Habus both the Vyperkahn and the old recurves.  I also like Black Widows especially the MA series. There are also some other bows in this thread that look interesting to me. I like bows with the limbs mounted on the belly. The reason is I prefer the higher brace height. I have heard that this robs the bows performance due to a shorter power stroke but it does not bother me. I'm not into speed as much as I am into stability and "shootability"  I like a higher brace height for better string clearance. Especially on a cold November day when I am bundled up in a treestand. I have also heard that bows with the limbs mounted on the belly may be more forgiving.  I have a maccaser Ebony Habu recurve that I love due to the mass weight. The mass weight helps my shooting. If I were to flinch before release or jerk my bow arm the effects are minimized because it takes more effort to move a bow with heavy mass weight. The other reason I like Habu bows is the grip and I have a slight preference for the grip on the Viperkahn. It has a very narrow throat which seems to minimize hand contact with the bow and helps me to minimize torque.   To be fair though there are a lot of bows out there that I have never tried. For the most part when I do try a different bow I don't like it as much. I've had a number of other bows but normally end up selling them and going back to my trusty Habus. There is no one "best" bow out there. If there were we would all be shooting it. It is a very personal thing I believe.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:53:00 AM
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/GemsbokAfrica2009.jpg)

Here is a not so great picture of my ebony Habu recurve. I have taken the majority of my animals with this bow including the buck in my Avitar. Chris Cox apparently did not make too many that look like this. It is Macassar Ebony riser. Bamboo limbs with bocote veneers. She draws 52.5 lbs. at 28 inches. I lovingly call this bow "Big Bertha".
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 11:04:00 AM
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/MountainReedbuckAfrica2009.jpg)

Here is another not so great pic of "Big Bertha" in action. But at least you can kinda see the limb veneers.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: BillW on February 07, 2013, 11:27:00 AM
I have two BW bows. Don't have a pic of my pretty 3D Zircote/Splated Myrtle bow but I do have a pic of my PSA3 with boo limbs and no white lams that I hunt with.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/WidowinAK.jpg)

Took this pic up in Alaska while on a Caribou hunt. The next day I shot a bull at 25 yards right in the heart. I love the durability of my bow and I have shot a number of critters with it since 2006 when I first got it.

Bill
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 11:35:00 AM
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/newhabu2.jpg).


This is a pic of my Habu Vyperkahn the day I got it. This bow is actually better looking now because bocote wood darkens with age. This is one of the triple carbon longbow versions and is still a little "green". Other than a few squirrels the only thing I have taken with this bow so far is a spring turkey. I did mmmmiiiissss a deer with it this fall though. I intend to take a lot of critters with this one in the future. I have not yet named this new bow.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: buckster on February 07, 2013, 11:40:00 AM
My current "keepers".  

  (http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd63/HuntPyramid/P1000001.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 11:49:00 AM
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/catfishhunter2.jpg)


Can't really see the bow but I used "Big Bertha" my habu recurve to take down a buck I named "Catfish Hunter" seven years or so ago.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 11:52:00 AM
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/photo.jpg)

Spring turkey taken with my Vyperkahn. Sorry I don't have better pics of just the bows!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 11:54:00 AM
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/newhabu3.jpg)

Another pic of my new found friend. Habu Vyperkahn.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 12:07:00 PM
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/firstcaribou2005.jpg)

 (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/secondcaribou2005.jpg)


A younger better looking version of me with a couple of caribou taken with my trusty Habu recurve.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 12:08:00 PM
I'll try to dig up some better pics of the bows with no animals when I get home. Yep I love bows with the limbs on the belly!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: buckster on February 07, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Jon,

Those are some great pics, THANKS!!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: A.S. on February 07, 2013, 12:31:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mike Walker:
 
Quote
Originally posted by A.S.:
Roy, that Habu is absolutely one of the finest bows that I have had the pleasure of shooting!

I would love to own another one some day!
Hey Allen, it only takes a phone call to start the wait and make that happen!    :D    

 [/b]
Mike, that's true....oh but that wait time really kills me!   :banghead:    :banghead:
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Guss on February 07, 2013, 01:27:00 PM
Nice Jon....Nice..!!! Great pics...!!!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: pamike on February 07, 2013, 03:54:00 PM
gotta figure out how to get some of mine on here - love those belly mount bows!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Guss on February 07, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
Send em' to me Mike and I'll post em' for ya...
Jr.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on February 07, 2013, 08:36:00 PM
That bocate Habu is a really nice looking bow Jon.
God bless you all, Steve
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Nativestranger on February 07, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by A.S.:
Mike, that's true....oh but that wait time really kills me!    :banghead:      :banghead:  [/QB]
I know how you feel. I am waiting for a bow at the moment and it won't be here anytime soon.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: ursusmajor on February 07, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
I love to see a black widow with longbow limbs in the same configuration as the recurve.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:37:00 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/image_zpse640c5c3.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:38:00 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/image_zps39218874.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/image_zps17220f02.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/image_zps17220f02.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:40:00 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/image_zps8833ef1d.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:41:00 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/image_zps1111ebb0.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:42:00 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/image_zps49ab3c98.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:43:00 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/image_zps3d38b3c2.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/image_zps2ef738d7.jpg[/IMG]
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Andy Cooper on February 07, 2013, 10:45:00 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/184666_200386956658097_2492336_n.jpg)

My Talon static-tipped recurve by Sixby...I need to get more pix of her because she's a beaut!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:46:00 PM
The previous pics are of my chosen tools of the trade. I shot both of them pretty darn well tonight!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 10:50:00 PM
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/africa2009450.jpg)

 (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/jonsimoneau/ImpalaAfrica2009.jpg)

A couple more victims of my beloved belly mounted limb bows.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 11:18:00 PM
Sixby your bows are interesting to me.  They are for sure very beautiful.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on February 07, 2013, 11:24:00 PM
Andy, I have looked for several years trying to find another piece of that macassar like that. So far thats it. I built two bows out of that wood and have never found any more that nice.
This is the other one. Steve Morris has it I believe. These are both origonal Talons. Harder to string but man they are fast!!!
God bless you all, Steve
 (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Morristalon/morristallonplus.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on February 07, 2013, 11:30:00 PM
That is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: sawtoothscream on February 08, 2013, 12:43:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Sixby:
Andy, I have looked for several years trying to find another piece of that macassar like that. So far thats it. I built two bows out of that wood and have never found any more that nice.
This is the other one. Steve Morris has it I believe. These are both origonal Talons. Harder to string but man they are fast!!!
God bless you all, Steve
  (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Morristalon/morristallonplus.jpg)
WOW!!! what a great looking bow. you are a artist.  Would love to fling some arrow out of that
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on February 08, 2013, 02:31:00 AM
Sawtoothscream;WOW!!! what a great looking bow. you are a artist. Would love to fling some arrow out of that.

Its a real different feel the first time you shoot a hot static curve and the arrow hits the target in a blink. It honestly made me do a double tke the first time I shot a prototype Talon.
Thank you very much. God gets the credit though as he is my teacher and inspiration.

 

God bless you all, Steve
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: cacciatore on February 08, 2013, 04:17:00 AM
Steve,your bows are real works of art,still dreaming for one!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: 4runr on February 08, 2013, 01:12:00 PM
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/photobucket-539-1345076312984.jpg)

Another Bobcat
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on February 09, 2013, 04:43:00 PM
Here's one I built that is similar. The pattern of the flare just seems to be the natural way to go with these risers. god bless you , Steve
 (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/LarryAlt/larry2-14-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on February 09, 2013, 04:48:00 PM
Another one a wee bit fancier.
 (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/PaulGustafson/pgtal22.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: pamike on February 10, 2013, 01:02:00 AM
steve - every time i see another one of your bows i am in awe!!  you are a true artist.   can't wait to see your next creation - i know this one will be amazing with that Koa.....
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on February 10, 2013, 02:54:00 AM
Mike Lord willing it will be . The riser sure speaks to me.Thanks so much bro. the line up of bows you have listed is like to die for LOL. I'm hoping this Steppe Eagle will fit in that bunch.

God bless you all, Steve
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: joekeith on February 10, 2013, 02:00:00 PM
(http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss116/joekeithspics/Archery/bows/Habu/DSCN2760.jpg)
Here's a pic of my Bushmaster .
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: heartlandbowyer on February 22, 2013, 11:02:00 PM
Not finished with my bow yet got a little shaping and finish to do yet. (http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o641/cengert74/100_2417_zpsa33e78f8.jpg) (http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o641/cengert74/100_2416_zpsc2e5fbe0.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: heartlandbowyer on April 09, 2013, 09:48:00 PM
Finished the above bow and her brother used a different insert to slim the ends of the riser .  (http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o641/cengert74/100_2507_zps2239d19e.jpg) (http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o641/cengert74/100_2509_zps6b896195.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Nativestranger on April 09, 2013, 09:56:00 PM
Those are lovely. Really love the riser design.

Ok users of rear mounted limb bows. What do you like about them?  Are rear mounted designs more forgiving to shoot or is there some other differences in shooting qualities?
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: heartlandbowyer on April 09, 2013, 10:01:00 PM
From my experience, (limited as it is) its tough to beat the pointability of the design. Maybe the guys with more experience will chime in.

Cory
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jess stuart on April 09, 2013, 10:51:00 PM
I have been building ones like these for a few years now and have come to really like them.

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Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jess stuart on April 09, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz171/jess_stuart/100_4697.jpg)

Well let me try again.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: johnnyk71 on April 09, 2013, 11:37:00 PM
my buddy Dave needs to post in this thread. he just finished a super nice bow with this design. hope he sees this. i shot it today, right handed (i'm a lefty), and it was SWEET!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: arrowlauncherdj on April 10, 2013, 12:44:00 AM
Here are a few of the one johnnyk71 is talking about:

  (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/arrowlauncherdj/Snapbucket/0713D75A_zpsf737a042.jpg)

  (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/arrowlauncherdj/Snapbucket/BACAF494_zps140ec802.jpg)

  (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/arrowlauncherdj/Snapbucket/661D03FA_zpsa31c13e7.jpg)

  (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/arrowlauncherdj/Snapbucket/F8EA90A6_zps0c4085ba.jpg)

My last two: the one on the right has hard maple cores and a cherry PL, the new one on the left has Aboo cores and cherry PL.  You can see how the profile is subtly different.

  (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/arrowlauncherdj/Snapbucket/ac6ea9c3-b40a-4d3b-8b70-d4a3dc92f622_zps69c50b0c.jpg)

The tips on the new one before final finish
 (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/arrowlauncherdj/Snapbucket/C14CFC64_zps35254e02.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: arrowlauncherdj on April 10, 2013, 12:51:00 AM
BTW thanks Trux for posting that bow.  You can see how the design has evolved from that one.  The power lam makes a huge difference in profile.

Dave
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Brianlocal3 on April 10, 2013, 08:27:00 AM
Nice looking bows, and the grip looks very comfy!!! Kudos for keeping the grip a simple yet functional design.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Nativestranger on April 10, 2013, 09:32:00 AM
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Originally posted by arrowlauncherdj:
Here are a few of the one johnnyk71 is talking about:

My last two: the one on the right has hard maple cores and a cherry PL, the new one on the left has Aboo cores and cherry PL.  You can see how the profile is subtly different.

    (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/arrowlauncherdj/Snapbucket/ac6ea9c3-b40a-4d3b-8b70-d4a3dc92f622_zps69c50b0c.jpg)

The tips on the new one before final finish
Both look great. Which one draws smoother? Which perform better?
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Brock on April 10, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
My first rear mounted bow was a gray Habu Bushmaster circa 1995-6...loved the bow, hated the gray color so sold it and bought one identical from Chris Cox in brown around 1999.
    (http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL285/1460516/24045051/401962626.jpg)

I carry it everywhere even though is a bit heavy in mass due to riser design but shoots like a dream...
    (http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL285/1460516/24261278/405776756.jpg)

I also have some vintage Browning's with forward mass risers with rear set limbs....the Explorer's and not sure if the Cobra counts but is a very riser forward design as well...similar to the Red Wing Hunter.  Here are a couple of them....also very sweet bows.
    (http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL285/1460516/24045051/404700217.jpg)

    (http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL285/1460516/24045051/404700202.jpg)

    (http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL285/1460516/24045051/402345309.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: grayfeather on April 10, 2013, 10:56:00 AM
Rainy Day Bows makes a really nice bow.Great shooter !
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: arrowlauncherdj on April 10, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
Tell you the truth it's hard to tell. The maple one is 10lb heavier so speed is hard to tell as I haven't chronod the new one. Both have a good force draw curve drawing 2.5 lb per inch from 26-30". 31" it goes to 3.5lb and I have not drawn one past that. Both are pretty dead in hand tho the one made of massaranduba wood on right is noticeably heavier, way more than what I trimmed off the zebra riser for aesthetics could make up. The maple one is a bit quieter shot 3 under but equally quiet shot split.

Dave
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on April 10, 2013, 01:23:00 PM
Jess, I really like your limb profile and the bow is overall a really good design. God bless you, Steve
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on April 10, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
David: Those look great , You did a really good job on both of them.

God bless you, Steve
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: arrowlauncherdj on April 10, 2013, 01:42:00 PM
Thanks Steve, I'd be lying if I said admiration for your bows didnt heavily influence/inspire this evolving design. I am not nearly as sophisticated in the pursuit of performance as you are, and appreciate your help in the past tho to get this far. Your bows are heirloom quality pieces.  Between you and Kirk, yall are awesome being willing to help greenhorns like me.

Dave
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: DannyBows on April 10, 2013, 06:26:00 PM
The only one I've owned or shot is my JT44 Little Suckling.

 (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/DSC01019.jpg)

 (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/DSC01020.jpg)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: kat on April 11, 2013, 10:00:00 AM
(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss311/thornhill_bucket/DSC00310.jpg)

Gotta love those widows.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: NormanDale33 on April 11, 2013, 06:59:00 PM
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Originally posted by DannyBows:
The only one I've owned or shot is my JT44 Little Suckling.

  (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/DSC01019.jpg)

  (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/DSC01020.jpg)
Consider my mind blown...what is that thing?!! Crazy looking boow and so cool. How far does it draw back? Thanks for sharing that pic.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: NormanDale33 on April 11, 2013, 07:03:00 PM
Sixby, you make some amazing bows that are fun to look at. You and Kirk are the crazy scientists of the bowyer world and make some awesome bows, that launch fast arrows. Between Kirk's obsidian bow and your talon I don't think you could go wrong.

How much does the rear mounted limb help with draw-length i.e. Can you draw a 60" bow 32" for example?
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on April 12, 2013, 12:17:00 AM
I've never tried the 60 at 32inches to be honest. You can draw the 62 to 32 with no stack though but that is the max I have tested it. I would reccomend the 62 or the 64 for that draw. However I have found myself to be conservative compared to most mad scientists. BTW I love that Psalm and have appropriated that many times .
God bless you all, Steve
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Nativestranger on April 12, 2013, 01:42:00 AM
Strung and full draw pics of that little JT44 suckling please.

Well imagine one that can be pulled out of the jacket like a concealed secret service weapon.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Brock on April 12, 2013, 09:44:00 AM
that is the old Kiko Tovar design, correct?
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: 4runr on April 12, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
    (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/Bobcat163_zps5178e0b7.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/4runr/media/Bobcat163_zps5178e0b7.jpg.html)

    (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/photobucket-45816-1364040087061_zps2575314c.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/4runr/media/photobucket-45816-1364040087061_zps2575314c.jpg.html)

  (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/4runr/photobucket-41719-1364041371841_zpsb608266b.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/4runr/media/photobucket-41719-1364041371841_zpsb608266b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: savage1 on April 12, 2013, 10:24:00 AM
Great looking bows. I too am a fan of these. They are typically fast and accurrate. That is probly discusion for the bench. I have a belly mount post there if anyone wants to talk. I have my theory why these are so good.

Lou
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: snufer on April 12, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
I guess that I am partial to rear mounted limbs too, here are four Black Widows, I especially like the heavy mass weight like the top 1225 model and the bottom PSA III with the solid phenolic riser. I would like to try one of Sixbys bows also.

  (http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j457/kruegerroad/004204b4-5e72-428a-81ec-ef1ec4d49348.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/kruegerroad/media/004204b4-5e72-428a-81ec-ef1ec4d49348.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Gun on April 13, 2013, 12:48:00 AM
Wow Les. Been a while since I've seen one of those A-Frames. I had a few way back when. I think I'm the reason they added the sight bracket piece to the mould as two I had blew up right there. Careful with that one. But I was shooting 75# back then too.

Here's my favorite at the moment. One of a kind. Black Ebony Riser with a thick black phenolic beam. She's Quick and QUIET!

   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Kagyone/KS-LB_zps397188ff.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Kagyone/media/KS-LB_zps397188ff.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Thumper Dunker on April 13, 2013, 03:46:00 AM
My newest from Rainy day.62" 58 @ 28
   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/timkoi/231_zpse5e9458b.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/timkoi/media/231_zpse5e9458b.jpg.html)
  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/timkoi/235_zps37660ff5.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/timkoi/media/235_zps37660ff5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: sweet old bill on April 13, 2013, 05:17:00 AM
I love my firebird by checkmate bows with 2 sets of limbs 1 is 40 lb and 2nd is 50 lbs at 28 inch draw..
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: jonsimoneau on April 13, 2013, 08:29:00 AM
I remember those little suckling bows. Always wanted to shoot one.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Sixby on April 13, 2013, 04:45:00 PM
Sweet Old Bill:love my firebird by checkmate bows with 2 sets of limbs 1 is 40 lb and 2nd is 50 lbs at 28 inch draw..

Years ago I bought my wife one of those., It was the first belly mount bow we had. I liked it so much I decided to try building them and hense the Talon , Talon 11, and Storm Eagle. I was especially impressed with Marks tapers which were thinner in the sweet spot and thicker on the ends. He is quite a bowyer and has probably built more bows than any one man alive. His production and quality for the amount of bows is an icredible feat IMHO.
God bless you all, Steve
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: monsterbuck on April 13, 2013, 05:27:00 PM
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Originally posted by Over&Under:
Timberghost bows are some sweet shooters!
X2
God bless.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Nativestranger on April 13, 2013, 05:35:00 PM
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Originally posted by savage1:
Great looking bows. I too am a fan of these. They are typically fast and accurrate. That is probly discusion for the bench. I have a belly mount post there if anyone wants to talk. I have my theory why these are so good.

Lou
Please share your theory. And was it proven that rear mounted bows offer more accuracy in shooting than front mounted bows?
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: savage1 on April 13, 2013, 06:08:00 PM
I cant say what has been proven ever but can give my thoughts on the design. Simply put the forward handle will point better. The real pay off is in short limbs, less mass, more speed and shorter bow. Since the limbs dont need to  be pulled as far to achieve draw due to forward handle, you can then add preload which is speed. Theres a bit more in play but theres a short version. Good pointing, fast, hard hitting bow with in my opinion a higher forgiveness level for the size of the bow. Longer bows are forgiving and handle forward bows are too.
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Swampman on April 13, 2013, 06:48:00 PM
My Black Widow PMA III is the best shooting bow I've ever owned.  It's amazing.

  (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Woodsman1956/Archery/200117_1671514303838_3982979_n_zps25ed3a1f.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Woodsman1956/media/Archery/200117_1671514303838_3982979_n_zps25ed3a1f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: DannyBows on April 13, 2013, 09:24:00 PM
Here's the only full draw shot I have of the Little Suckling. It's the gentleman I bought the bow from. It does really make a small package when taken down, easily fits in a small backpack. The riser is solid phenolic/micarta and is heavy and dead in hand at the shot. Very cool little bow.

  (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/RwJT44.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/DannyBoats/media/RwJT44.jpg.html)

  (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/jt-44-3.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/DannyBoats/media/jt-44-3.jpg.html)

  (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/jt-44-1.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/DannyBoats/media/jt-44-1.jpg.html)

  (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/DSC01027.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/DannyBoats/media/DSC01027.jpg.html)

  (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/DSC01023.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/DannyBoats/media/DSC01023.jpg.html)

  (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z208/DannyBoats/DSC01014.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/DannyBoats/media/DSC01014.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: T-Bowhunter on April 14, 2013, 07:26:00 AM
Great Looking Bows!
Title: Re: Bows w/ rear mounted limbs appreciation thread
Post by: Moots on May 26, 2013, 12:23:00 AM
I love the looks of these bows.  This might be a dumb question, but because the riser is so far forward, I'm wondering if these rear-mounted bows all tend to have higher grips.  For example, the BW's I've seen have higher grips.

I'm a longbow guy, and prefer low grips.  Can you get a low grip with rear-mounted limbs?

Thanks.