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Title: release/spine question
Post by: rnharris on January 28, 2013, 09:19:00 AM
out of curiosity how does a good/not so good release affect spine out of the bow i find that for me i end up with a weaker spine than i think i should have example from my firehawk longbow 56#@28"62" i draw it 29" i end up with 250 grains up front out of a full length cx 150 thnx
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: rnharris on January 28, 2013, 10:28:00 AM
Ttt
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: MnFn on January 28, 2013, 11:03:00 AM
I have wondered about that myself. I am guessing a great release would impart more energy to the arrow.

But bottom line is use what you need to use to get good flight, etc. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: Tutanka on January 28, 2013, 11:21:00 AM
Good release = stiffer arrow.

Release....a good release should consist of the string moving in a more linear plane....this equals more energy delivered to the arrow, this equals increased speed.  Bow arm.....a stable bow arm results in a more stable launch platform which should not rob the arrow of speed coming off of the shelf......this should equal increased speed.  Expansion.....good form should be the by product of good balanced expansion leading up to the release, and also the arrow should not be creeping forward prior to the release....this should result in more speed.  So...not only will all of these factors increase the speed of the arrow but they should also require a stiffer arrow.

IMHO
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: rnharris on January 28, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
thnx guys the bow i am shooting now is cut out from center which does typically call for more weight up front love the bow and shoot it well was always curious about the release thing!
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: chanumpa on January 28, 2013, 12:13:00 PM
Although I havent been good about walkin my talk on this subject(plucking,waving at the crowd after release),the Byron Ferguson "keep pulling through the release has really helped me.I also have noticed when I can consistantly release this way,I get way better penetration,compared to the"keep contact method"Also,very good explanation by Tutanka.
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: rnharris on January 28, 2013, 12:45:00 PM
Yup met Byron in Al Hill shoot he said the same thing pull thru and the arrow will go where your drawing elbow is pointing I get great arrow flight and do well on game maybe my set up is where it needs to be just seems a lot of.guys are shooting 400 spine arrows with 125 gr points I ain't one of them and my hunting arrows always end up around 600 grs which might not be a bad thing
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: Mryan2176 on January 28, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
I just finished tuning a red stag takedown. Noticed the arrows showed weak after i tuned it the first time. I guess i must be starting to improve. Good post, thanks.
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: Mryan2176 on January 28, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
I just finished tuning a red stag takedown. Noticed the arrows showed weak after i tuned it the first time. I guess i must be starting to improve. Good post, thanks.
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: Stumpkiller on January 28, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
A good release is not as sensitive to spine, but increasing spine will not help a poor release.
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: rnharris on January 29, 2013, 10:34:00 AM
Thnx guys, I have read lots of.posts where a guy is shooting a mild r/ d bow cut out from center and is.shooting what seemed to be way.stiff a.shaft for the set.up say a 400 beeman with 125 up front when my same set up would.be a 500 beeman with 250 up front maybe I need to try a different glove I really like my damuscus glove though and don't like a tab
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: Tutanka on January 29, 2013, 10:59:00 AM
Personally I wouldn't worry about it, if your getting good arrow flight that's the ultimate endgame.  However, if you want to experiment try bare shafting your set up with your glove and then with a mechanical release at the same draw length.  Given, it's almost impossible to replicate a mechanical release with fingers, but this should give you some idea how far apart the two are.  Bottom line is good arrow flight is good arrow flight, and what works for one might not work for another.
Title: Re: release/spine question
Post by: rnharris on January 29, 2013, 02:00:00 PM
I agree Paul it is.fun posting though I get great arrow flight even with bare shaft and this bow.doesn't seem to care how.heavy the shaft is either thnx guys