I have a 58" Silvertip with the "A" riser and absolutely love the grip. My hands are not large and it just fits me, however I really prefer a longer bow. I believe 62" is probably the best for me as the shorter bows seem to magnify all of my form errors. I suppose I could learn to shoot better, but I've been working on that for 45 years. So, what I am looking for is a recurve with a grip similar in feel to the "A" riser Silvertip at 62". No, Dave doesn't make limbs that will do that, and yes I have tried Tips with the "B" and "C" risers but found those too heavy. I tried an older Blacktail Elite as I heard those were similar, but I found the front of the riser at the grip to be too angular. That is, the squared off edges of the grip cut into my fingers when I wrapped them around the grip. I have not tried a TallTines, but they look like they might have the same issue as the Blacktail.
So, what do those of you that know the Tip "A" riser have to offer as a suggestion for me to try? I have done the Goldilocks thing and tried a number of different bows at shows over the past couple years, but have not found the one yet.
I had issues with all of these:
Hummingbird Kingfisher - wrist too low
Stryker - Grip too skinny
Kota - Just felt funny
Foley - Grip too thick
Holm made
Tortelli
Hill Country
Palmer - Grip to thick
Fedora - don't like thumb rest
You might look at a Stalker,never shot one but have heard great things about them. I am a Tip shooter and have the long,medium and short and they all shoot great for me.
Get a Fedora and have the thumb rest removed, or just pick the one you like the best all but the grip and then have the boyer copy the grip on the bow you like. Send the the bow or riser and most good boyers will get very close.
I like myself the A Silvertip riser and with the #2 limbs it makes a 60".At my 29" it is more than confortable and equivalent to a 62" B riser.
I don't really know what a Tip grip is like but you can check my website and see if any of those are similar. I have been known to build bows for people that liked a certain grip , Dale Dye comes to mind and He said I did it perfectly for him. Good pictures and hand tracing help. Another was a grip to match a Bob Lee. and he really liked that one. Those and Habus have real good grips. I would say my grip is kind of a combination of those.
God bless, Steve
God bless, Steve
I have a 17'' Tip riser,a Stalker,Zipper, GN Super ghost,and a Habu.
Of the four other recurves I have.The Zipper seems the closest to the Tip.As Sixby stated.The Habu's grip is very nice but seem to be cut lower than the Tip w/ a very thin throat.Stalker is
more full in the palm and very nice.The GN is a super grip that is very hard to torque.
I have smallish hands and prefer the Habu's grip.
SOme of the metal riser bows have very nice grips. I'm considering using one of these grips that I really like as the "form" the next time I have a custom bow built. that would be, I think a lot easier to ship off than a full riser of a favorite bow.
Ask Dave about your short riser with the 64" limbs! I bet that would be perfect for you. :thumbsup:
Pat two other that come to mind are the Tall Tines and Dale Dye.
The TT has a nice feel and lends itself to good shooting. The Dale Dye in my mind was a better feel than either. One TD recurve that is a sleeper but has a grip that you just climb into and shoot is a Leon Stewart TD recurve. If you can get to Baltimore this spring pick one up and shoot it you might be very surprised.
Pat two other that come to mind are the Tall Tines and Dale Dye.
The TT has a nice feel and lends itself to good shooting. The Dale Dye in my mind was a better feel than either. One TD recurve that is a sleeper but has a grip that you just climb into and shoot is a Leon Stewart TD recurve. If you can get to Baltimore this spring pick one up and shoot it you might be very surprised.
what Sergio said x2
Any bowyer should be able to copy your grip relatively easily. Pick the model bow u want talk to the bowyer and I am sure that they could help you.
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Asseinheimer is really close...another sleeper if you can find it is a Quinn Longhorn.
My Stalker Coyote has a grip similar tony old Schafer. I know South will accommodate any grip requests as long as it doesn't mess with the integrity of the riser. He also has test drive program so you can try before you buy. Or try one then make any adjustments. Give South a call :thumbsup:
Is there a difference in the grip between the long and short Silvertip risers? Just curious, I have a 62" bow and the grips look the same between it and the shorter risers I've seen in pictures.
Thanks all for the great suggestions. To answer a few questions:
Easykeeper - I found the A, B and C Silvertip risers to feel differently for me. Maybe it is just me, or maybe the risers were made at different times, but I found the B and C risers to not only be heavier in mass weight (which makes sense because the are longer), but they also felt thicker in the throat and palm.
Sergio - Beth told me that they do not make any limbs that would make a 62" bow on the shorter "A" riser.
Sending the grip to a bowyer to match is an option I had not considered. I guess if the bowyer can get the geometry of the limb pads to fit the shape of the riser that wouldn't be a problem. I can't do that now though as I just traded the bow back to Tukudu (it was originally Tom's bow) last night.
It sounds to me like I need to try: Habu, Stalker, Tall Tines, Dale Dye, Eaglewing, Assenheimer, Quinn Longhorn and Rose Oak. Time to break out the credit card and do some test driving.
Dale Dye, Robertson, or Tall Tines.
Kyle,
You live close. Any chance you have all three and I could handle them?
Stinger,
I live in Marshall Va.
Bigfoot Bows: Kirk can made any grip you want.
My Tall Tines has a customized grip done by Brian and it is alot like a Schafer grip in feel,contour/shape and size.Its also checkered.
I love the Schafer grip.
Nice bow there Brandon!
Stinger, never trade a bow with the perfect grip! I think they are all custom so they will very some, but I bet that bow had a non-standard grip that was adjusted for the original owner. That would explain why other tips didn't feel the same. Maybe contact the bowyer and see if he has records of the bow. Some keep a lot of detail and can tell you what they may have done.
You do know that unless they are cnc produced every grip will be slightly different , this is true no matter how many bows a builder builds , However not all bowyers are created same when it comes to wood work and the craft of shaping. some will get it more consistantly close than others. However they may feel slightly different;
I just delivered two Eaglewing reverse mounted bows to a customer that were to have identical grips. I did the best I could and he says he is more than happy with both but likes one better than the other. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
God bless you all, Steve
Kirk Lavender @ Big Foot Bows.....I've shot quite a few different models of Kirk's bows and each model had a different grip.....none of which really suited me. Kirk and I talked a lot about grip shapes and sizes. I explained what I liked and didn't like, gave him a hand tracing and he dead nuts nailed it.
The grip is the single most important aspect on any bow to me, regardless of how well it shoots.
If you have a bow with a grip the you like....like the Schafer, I'm sure any competent bowyer can very closely duplicate that particular grip.
Todd the grip on the Tip that was traded was a standard short riser, not custom and it did not differ from any of the other 5 short riser tips that I have owned in the past decade. tom
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I corresponded back and forth with Beth at Schafer a bunch today. They will make a custom grip to your specifications if you so desire. I explained what my dilemma was and we determined that the previous Tip that I owned was an older one that had a 19" riser. We think a 17" riser that is slimmed down some in the palm with their longest limbs would give me the 62" bow with the grip on the riser that I am looking for without the mass weight of the 19" riser. They said they can get the 17" riser down to feel just like the 15" that was on the bow that I just traded back to Tom (he was the original owner). ....so, all I need now is some money and patience.
This discussion of alternatives however has got me to thinking. I wish I could have made it to Kalamazoo to try out a bunch of them, but who wants to travel to the frozen Midwest in January? Oh wait, it was only 18 degrees here last week!