This is the thread for radical R/D longbows that like think they are recurves. Longbows that either retains their reflex when strung or brace to a triangular shape profile. Your own bow or not, all are welcome. Lets see those sexy curves here!
I will start with this image I just found on the internet. Its called Xcellerator. No idea what it is but the riser looks similar to a Toelke Whip
(http://fedorabows.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/3.jpg)
(http://fedorabows.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/2.jpg)
I like this style too. Almost all the performance of a full-blown recurve, with very little possibility of limb twist. I've never heard of this style bow developing limb twist. Has anyone else?
Wait til I post a pic of my 64" LB-limbed Zipper SXT. Talk about R/D limbs, they're like crescent moons, LoL.
My Lost Creek Life Ender. A bit more aggressive than my Lost Creek Judge. The last pic is thrown in just because I find the grip so perfect.
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/Lost%20Creek%20Life%20Ender%2042%20lb/P1030180.jpg)
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/Lost%20Creek%20Life%20Ender%2042%20lb/P1030179.jpg)
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your Xcellerator is a Fedora.
Think that's a fedora bow, several bowyers incorporate the thumbrest on their bows a double carbon centaur r/d longbow is faster than most recurves great designs
QuoteOriginally posted by Bladepeek:
My Lost Creek Life Ender. A bit more aggressive than my Lost Creek Judge. The last pic is thrown in just because I find the grip so perfect.
Thats a beauty! How does it shoot?
Sorry Larry you beat me to it
QuoteOriginally posted by GRINCH:
your Xcellerator is a Fedora.
Thanks for the info. Not mine but I sure wish I have one!
I'm really diggin' my Kanati. Now I want another R/D bow. So many great ones to choose from. Big Jim Thunderchild, Javaman Elkheart, Timberghost Smoke, Bigfoot Yeti and many more I'm forgetting. I've never heard anything negative about the above mentioned bows.
Bigfoot Sasquatch: Fast, Fast, and faster
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o780/jakerr1/022640x480.jpg)
my Tomahawk Diamond series longbow.
I like the looks of that one piece James.
The Thunderstick MOAB... I don't have a good profile pic at this point but the limbs have static tips without the string touching the belly. Great shooters! Also the Big Jim Thunderchild, another great short hybrid longbow...
QuoteOriginally posted by Bowhunter4life:
The Thunderstick MOAB... I don't have a good profile pic at this point but the limbs have static tips without the string touching the belly. Great shooters! Also the Big Jim Thunderchild, another great short hybrid longbow...
Static tips on a longbow?
Please explain.
The Shrew fits in the hybrid category...great shooting well mannered bows.
The one that really comes to mind on radical is the new Zipper Nitro by Bill Dunn...this baby has some serious curvature to the limbs and is faaaassst!
Treadway Black Swamp!I used to have one but don't have good pics
Another one I like the looks of is the Dwyer Endeavour, can someone tell me how do they shoot?
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
QuoteOriginally posted by Bladepeek:
My Lost Creek Life Ender. A bit more aggressive than my Lost Creek Judge. The last pic is thrown in just because I find the grip so perfect.
Thats a beauty! How does it shoot? [/b]
Like a house afire. Those limbs are getting a good workout at 29.5, and have a lot of stored energy just waiting to be released. Doesn't stack at my draw length, but I would guess it would start at 30". A screamer, but nice and quiet too.
My Judge is 2" longer and 2# heavier at 28". At 29.5 they are both the same. Another nice bow.
MOAB
Love my MOAB's! It would be fun to shoot some other similar bows just to compare.
My favorite Big Jim Thunderchild..... Myrtle and crotch Walnut with limb splices, Mmmmmmmm delicious :)
The link under my signature shows almost 700 more TC's and Buff's...........
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Cari-Bow Slynx. One of the very few longbows I can shoot almost as well as my recurves.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/RH206220Slynx20gabonmunn20side.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/RH206220Slynx20Gabonmunnebony.jpg)
Not my bow but shows the profile
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/Slynx20strung20and20unstrung_zps61aa2bb7.jpg)
Wild Horse Creek Kestrel
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc452/ghermon/100_2386.jpg)
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I love my Randy Morin Banshee. 60" 53@29. Its super quiet and smokes an arrow.
(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af311/TraditionalBowman/bow084.jpg)
(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af311/TraditionalBowman/bow083.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by Pon:
Treadway Black Swamp!I used to have one but don't have good pics
Another one I like the looks of is the Dwyer Endeavour, can someone tell me how do they shoot?
I have shot my buddy's a couple of times. It shoots really fast and there is no hand shock. Also I have never seen such cool looking limb tips, and the Dwyer grip is one of my all time favorites.
Schafer
QuoteOriginally posted by Bowhunter4life:
The Thunderstick MOAB... I don't have a good profile pic at this point but the limbs have static tips without the string touching the belly. Great shooters! Also the Big Jim Thunderchild, another great short hybrid longbow...
X2
Top to Bottom:
62" Thunderstick III
62" MOAB
58" Mag
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd444/mbhensley/Archery%20Stuff/Thunderstick%20Bows/32c52a1e-1.jpg)
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd444/mbhensley/Archery%20Stuff/Thunderstick%20Bows/9d93ff90-1.jpg)
Over & Under,
I think what Bowhunter4life is referring to is the last 8" or so of the limbs of the MOAB have a fairly pronounced turn toward the back of the bow similar to a static tip recurve limb turn (but not nearly as pronounced).
Look at RM81's photo above. A close look at the MOAB in the middle and you can just make it out.
I'm not aware of any other RD Longbow that has this (doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I haven't fooled with one).
Personally, and I'm no bowyer, but I believe this is what gives the MOAB design a little bit more performance in the speed and smooth draw departments.
Someone with more knowledge than I have about limb design might be able to provide more information.
Ken
Eaglewings both have static tip d and rs and non static depending on the build. Its not unique to any one bowyer but it is a really great feature when used in the right design. You can even build a static tip into a string follow design. It increases draw length and places the sweet spot where you want it to be. Again when incorporated into a specific design or for a specific purpose. (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/deceagle/deceagle3.jpg) (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/ricks/rickspics5.JPG)
God bless you all, Steve
Thanks Steve!
I have not seen limb twist but I have seen limbs fade to one side or the other.
QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
Sasquatch and Eaglewings both have static tip d and rs. Its not unique to any one bowyer but it is a really great feature when used in the right design. You can even build a static tip into a string follow design. It increases draw length and places the sweet spot where you want it to be. Again when incorporated into a specific design or for a specific purpose.
God bless you all, Steve
By static tip do you mean stiff outer limbs that retain their shape when strung and drawn? I have seen quite a few bows like this. Does it improve the stored energy and efficiency?
As our technical advisor Rob D. has so eloquently pointed out in previous posts. R/D is an accepted colloquialism that really does not truelly relflect the shape of a hybrid bow from riser to limb tip, but none the less is the accepted description. A true hybrid actually deflexes out of the riser and reflexes mid-limb through the tip.
When I think of aggressive versions of this style undoubtably the Thunderchild comes to mind and right there with it is the Liberty Edge by Allen Boice. Both fine bowyers with great products.
(http://www.libertybows.net/images/albums/NewAlbum_f0e93/tn_480_af1a92f2065197a74950e73ba2c15ad8.JPG.png)
(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/chromebuck/IMG_0439x.jpg)
~CB
omega longbow, priced great and are so fast
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g464/sawtoothscream/2012-02-12_13-30-28_20.jpg)
Hunter bows are awesome shooters as well and hitmans are sick as well. heres a picture of both side by side (hitman on left and hunterbow on right)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g464/sawtoothscream/100_4660.jpg)
My hybrid "Legend of the Forest" fast and accurate.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l118/V-Archer/R-D%20bow%20Legend%20of%20the%20Forest/R-Dbow59combi2.jpg)
I don't have a good pic..but this is a 66" bow I built. It was built using a 64" form I made using a 62/64 template I got from kennym. (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/66zebraunstrung.jpg) (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/66zebrabow.jpg)
Here's a couple pics of my beloved Kanati.
(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s407/JDCovey1/08B7AC39-DD9F-461A-9A1A-B9431AD84F48-1468-00000342DD88D8EC.jpg) (http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s407/JDCovey1/FBDE25EE-2F10-44F1-A17A-A4AC644EDA03-1468-00000342D07F4F14.jpg)
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Love R/D longbows!
Jason
Native, I deleted Sasquatch for a reason. That is because upon reflection I did not think it right to speak for another bowyer, even my best friend.
To answer your question about the static tips , there are at least two ways and a combination of the two to make any limb a static. you can do it by geometry, by tip wedge , wood, glass , or carbon. or a combination of geometry and wedge/
I suspect that the gentleman that brought this into the conversation is saying that the static is created by geometry. In a D and R limb that would actually make the bow limb a semi static as the tip will eventually bend toward the very end of the draw/ This is true even of a super radical reflex. The only way to make it a true static tip would be to use the combination.
As to whether it improves performance , That would depend entirely on the bowyer and the balance of the entire bow design. If it were just as simple as throwing in tip wedges and making sharp bends in the limb then everyone would do it. To get it performing right takes a lot of r and d and a lot of time and money. Once a bowyer gets that done he kind of tends to keep the results to himself.
God bless and hope this helps. Steve
QuoteOriginally posted by Robertfishes:
I don't have a good pic..but this is a 66" bow I built. It was built using a 64" form I made using a 62/64 template I got from kennym.
Gawd she's a looker. Great job! Wish I had the skills to build one.
Jk Kanati..... nuff said !!
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The "static" portion of the MOAB can be pretty easily seen here.
The MOAB limb is on the top. Toelke Whip in the middle. Big Jim Thunderchild on bottom.
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/ken613/All3.jpg)
Here the MOAB is by itself. About 6-8" back from the tip you can see the exaggerated turn toward the back.
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/ken613/MOAB.jpg)
A look at the Thunderchild shows a generalize sweep toward the back of the bow.
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/ken613/tchild.jpg)
The Toelke Whip is a little less radical in this aspect.
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/ken613/Whip.jpg)
All 3 are fantastic bows, that I will not soon part with. Each has its place.
i like my Black Creek Phantom XL by Jim Gainey, this is his new modle and the very first one. it has a 16" riser and is 60" 48lbs @28" and it spits an arrow pretty darn quick. (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/Lonnieb/023_zps18ae6212.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by threeunder:
Over & Under,
I think what Bowhunter4life is referring to is the last 8" or so of the limbs of the MOAB have a fairly pronounced turn toward the back of the bow similar to a static tip recurve limb turn (but not nearly as pronounced).
Look at RM81's photo above. A close look at the MOAB in the middle and you can just make it out.
I'm not aware of any other RD Longbow that has this (doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I haven't fooled with one).
Personally, and I'm no bowyer, but I believe this is what gives the MOAB design a little bit more performance in the speed and smooth draw departments.
Someone with more knowledge than I have about limb design might be able to provide more information.
Ken
Thanks Ken...I think I see what you are referring to. Learn something new every day...had no idea there was such a thing on longbows.
Your added pics really show it well...thanks again!
This is my Samick Raider.I am extremely happy.
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(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u384/elgreco1981/P1250394.jpg)
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Kanati Quite and fast
Would like to try some of those other bows you guys have posted.
Got to try a Thunderchild!!!
QuoteOriginally posted by threeunder:
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The "static" portion of the MOAB can be pretty easily seen here.
The MOAB limb is on the top. Toelke Whip in the middle. Big Jim Thunderchild on bottom.
Here the MOAB is by itself. About 6-8" back from the tip you can see the exaggerated turn toward the back.
A look at the Thunderchild shows a generalize sweep toward the back of the bow.
The Toelke Whip is a little less radical in this aspect.
All 3 are fantastic bows, that I will not soon part with. Each has its place.
Thanks for the pics. I think this shows up the different styles of RD pretty well. How do these 3 bows compare in accuracy, hand shock and speed?
I can definitely see a resemblance between the Moab, omega longbow and liberty edge.
Don't know how to post pic's but my Qarbon Nano is smooth and fast with no hand shock at all. 65lbs at 183fps with a 740 grain arrow
Here's a couple pics of a bow I received in the 2012 Trad Gang Bow swap. It was built by Trux Turning (David Turning) and is the smoothest, fastest, and quietest bow I own. I use to think my Hill style bows didn't have any handshock, but after I shoot this one for a while, my Hill styles kick like a mule until I get use to them again.
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap2012/CAM_2237.jpg)
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap2012/CAM_2236.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by atatarpm:
Don't know how to post pic's but my Qarbon Nano is smooth and fast with no hand shock at all. 65lbs at 183fps with a 740 grain arrow
Upload to the internet (Flickr or Picasa or others )and send me the link. I will post for you.
Great, this thread is making me want to buy more bows...
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
QuoteOriginally posted by threeunder:
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The "static" portion of the MOAB can be pretty easily seen here.
The MOAB limb is on the top. Toelke Whip in the middle. Big Jim Thunderchild on bottom.
Here the MOAB is by itself. About 6-8" back from the tip you can see the exaggerated turn toward the back.
A look at the Thunderchild shows a generalize sweep toward the back of the bow.
The Toelke Whip is a little less radical in this aspect.
All 3 are fantastic bows, that I will not soon part with. Each has its place.
Thanks for the pics. I think this shows up the different styles of RD pretty well. How do these 3 bows compare in accuracy, hand shock and speed?
I can definitely see a resemblance between the Moab, omega longbow and liberty edge. [/b]
Seems to be a good design. The omega is a beast and throws arrows hard, quiet, very little shock.
I am really liking my new Caribow Slynx. Great timing on this topic. Kind of like a "What to shoot at Kazoo list".
QuoteOriginally posted by Danny Rowan:
Cari-Bow Slynx. One of the very few longbows I can shoot almost as well as my recurves.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/RH206220Slynx20gabonmunn20side.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/RH206220Slynx20Gabonmunnebony.jpg)
Not my bow but shows the profile
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/Slynx20strung20and20unstrung_zps61aa2bb7.jpg)
This one is a stunner! Really making it hard for me to resist. And thats above as much reflex as you can get with a glass/ wood hybrid.
Some Toxocraft bows
11" Teton X-11 ILF riser with Teton Extreme limbs
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/5toes_2006/P1040892_zps9d194f1d.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/5toes_2006/P1040893_zps8951cf17.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/5toes_2006/P1040894_zps4b113085.jpg)
Coup de grace take downs
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Nice work Bob. That is really some impressive stuff,. God bless and good to see you, Steve
LOL, we have a few hundred more pages to go to compete with another appreciation thread. maybe we should just jump to a "better" hunt than theirs :laughing:
At some point I will get some pictures of mine up!
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
QuoteOriginally posted by threeunder:
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The "static" portion of the MOAB can be pretty easily seen here.
The MOAB limb is on the top. Toelke Whip in the middle. Big Jim Thunderchild on bottom.
Here the MOAB is by itself. About 6-8" back from the tip you can see the exaggerated turn toward the back.
A look at the Thunderchild shows a generalize sweep toward the back of the bow.
The Toelke Whip is a little less radical in this aspect.
All 3 are fantastic bows, that I will not soon part with. Each has its place.
Thanks for the pics. I think this shows up the different styles of RD pretty well. How do these 3 bows compare in accuracy, hand shock and speed?
I can definitely see a resemblance between the Moab, omega longbow and liberty edge. [/b]
NS,
They are all very similar in those aspects. Among the 3 there isn't a slouch in the bunch. As far as my ability to put an arrow where I want it, the edge would go to the MOAB. But, that may very well be because I've shot it quite a bit more than the others.
They are all spectacular shooters. Shooting each of them, though, is just a bit different experience.
Quietness is dead even amongst them.
Speed is similar (ever so slight edge to the MOAB).
Smoothnesss is dead even.
Handshock is practically non-existant with all 3.
I simply love my Thunderchilds:
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i144/frenchymanny/IMG_0704_zpsd2ad9800.jpg)
F-Manny
Which of these aggressive RD bows would be good for a 31.5" long draw and with the option of a more of a recurve like grip?
I have had several Toelke Whips that worked great for me at 66". But I've realized that I prefer a fatter more recurve like grip. So far my preferred grip is on a Predator Recurve.
Any suggestions?
The Thunderchild and the Slynx are looking good to me so far but what length draws can they accommodate?
Thanks guys!
Can't speak for the Slynx but have you seen Big Jim??? I think he sport your draw and hunts with a 56" Thunderchild!!! If your worried about it go with a 58"
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Big%20Jims%20successful%20hunters/Jims20Turkey20hunt20005.jpg)
Here are the grips on my Twin TC's
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Thunderchild%20Twins/BigJim604528017.jpg)
After shooting almost every R/D I have found my favorite. A double carbon Eaglewing. They have it all there quiet. I will put it against any for speed but what really does it for me is how dead in the hand they are. There is not another 1 piece longbow that has better traits IMO.
Thanks coaster 500. That grip looks great too. I think I'm leaning towards a Thunderchild...
Marley you ain't that far from me... if you find yourself in the San Luis Obispo area give me a heads up. I can let you shoot a few of mine. Got 45 to 50@28 that would put the 45 into the 50's at your draw and the 50 to 60ish. My nephew draws 32"s (6' 7"s!!!) and shoots my 45@28 no problem.
Kip
Thanks for the offer Coaster500. What length did you say yours were? 45@28" is about my max. I'm definitely thinking about one of these bows now. I was just reviewing through old threads about the thunderchilds...Man they seem like a sweet bow! I might have to just up and order one.
Centaur Triple Carbon, Outstanding bows and great lines!
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/New%20Triple%20Carbon%20Centaur/IMG_0284-2.jpg)
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/New%20Triple%20Carbon%20Centaur/IMG_0318.jpg)
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/New%20Triple%20Carbon%20Centaur/IMG_0305-1.jpg)
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/New%20Triple%20Carbon%20Centaur/IMG_0309.jpg)
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Marley mine are all 56"s... I have had a couple of 58"s. They were very nice but even with my big paws I didn't feel any advantage and 56"s works so well in cover or a ground blind.
Wow, I forgot about the Centaurs, maybe I should add them to my possibilities list.
Coaster, that is pretty impressive for a 56" bow! Especially if your nephew was drawing them to 32"!
How come I knew this thread was going to make me want to buy another bow?
What other aggressive RD LBs do people like? Photos please...
Another vote for Kanati!
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Kanati20Bow20056.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Kanati20Pics20001.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/PicsfromHuntonFarm2011006.jpg)
Great pictures guys keep them coming.
R/D bows are no less traditional or "classical" than D shaped longbows. Here is a replica egyptian reflex deflex bow that will brace to a triangular shape profile. The design dates back several thousand years BC. The real mother of all bows or "MOAB"
(http://www.atarn.org/islamic/egyptian_composite_files/image002.jpg)
(http://www.atarn.org/islamic/egyptian_composite_files/image006.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by ishoot4thrills:
Another vote for Kanati!
Sweet! The Kanati has one of the cleanest lines in a longbow. Just love the looks of it. Too bad it's US only.
Eaglewing
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/photo-27.jpg)
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/photo-26.jpg)
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/photo-25.jpg) (http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/photo-24.jpg)
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Thanks for posting that Nativestranger! That is a sweet old school bow. Also a good reminder about the antiquity of the design, thanks for pointing that out.
I guess the Kanati is on my list of potentials now too...
If possible always test shoot the bow to see if it suits you. Everyone's definition of smooth is different. A bow that feels hard or stacking is really uncomfortable to shoot especially if you have a 31.5" draw. And bow length is not always a good indication of draw length and smoothness. I was handed a 60" take down longbow to try today and it stacked like crazy at 27". While my own 53" Assyrian feels smooth to above 30".
Lots of beauties out there.I really appreciate the work that these guys put into theyre R/D designs,to bring us ultimate performance in a long bow.
I actually have a much more radical d and r bow but have gone to the bit less radical that Glenn just posted to gain in stability. Interestingly the less radical and more stable bow is just as fast. Interesting stuff there in that you do not have to compromise stability in order to have speed. When I see bows that are almost recurves when braced I would almost bet that some of them,. not all, are vertically unstable and will not constistantly give you the same shot after shot placement ability as a bow a bit less reflexed. That is unless , unlike me, you have a perfect release.
Just som thoughts on the so named radical D and R bow , Which btw, I still build along with above information to the customer.
This comes to the concept of what is the ultimate bow. I say it is not necesarily the quickest bow but certainly speed has to be a top factor. The bow must also be dead in hand, quiet and perfectly timed and stable. Plus the ergonomic of the grip must relate to the shooter and contribute to his ability to make full use of the other qualities.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.;
God bless you all, Steve
Very informative Sixby. Thanks for the post. Would love to see pics of the bow you speak of, or both the bows you speak of.
I'm liking this thread.
Origonal with 5 1/2in reflex at 64. (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/chocstripe/chocstripestrung1.jpg)
These bows actually shoot really good but are a bit more critical of release.If you look at L82 hunts bow it has less overall reflex at the same length, less critical of release and is just as quick. The tips are more stable verticaly, when you pinch the string to the bow at the tips or move the string up and down from tip to tip.
God bless you all, Steve
Nice looking bow Steve! Like that one alot!
(http://i.imgur.com/wgwvj.jpg)
Heres a D/R design I've been building for a few years. Fairly moderate D/R but seems to deliver the good traits of the type (http://i.imgur.com/wCURv.jpg).Smooth draw, reasonable speed and very stable.
very nice looking bow.
You build really nice Bows steve! :thumbsup:
Anyone else have Caribow pictures? Please post them. Most pictures I found only show closeups of the handle or some antler on the tips. There is no way to even tell if it's a longbow or recurve.
Here is one I really like. A Black Creek Siren belonging to another member.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8362/8323403314_8075626252_z.jpg)
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/cjohntalk/Bow%20Pictures/1296261062.jpg)
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/cjohntalk/Bow%20Pictures/1333675303.jpg)
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/cjohntalk/hog%20heaven/1302554927.jpg)
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/cjohntalk/Colorado%20Elk%20Hunt/1315173723.jpg)
who was asking about Loooong Draws?
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/cjohntalk/Stumpin%20and%20shootin%20fun/1335830578.jpg)
My favorite Buffalo Bow.... not as severe R/D as Jim's Thunderchild but smooth as silk >>>>
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Buff002.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/MomsGRANDCanyon092.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/MomsGRANDCanyon082.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
who was asking about Loooong Draws?
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/cjohntalk/Stumpin%20and%20shootin%20fun/1335830578.jpg) [/QB]
Excellent shot! The Thunderchild is amazing for such a short bow.
Okay, here you find two pics of the profile of the Caribow Peregrine's profile. The first one is unstrung (lots of reflex!); the second one is strung. When the Peregrine is strung, the string doesn't touch the limbs, but the limb shave no real D-shape. So the bow is not IFAA conform, for what it is worth it...
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p525/FlyingDutchman25/Bows/PICT7402_zps810f063c.jpg)
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p525/FlyingDutchman25/Bows/PICT7406_zps1b61d45c.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by Flying Dutchman:
Okay, here you find two pics of the profile of the Caribow Peregrine's profile. The first one is unstrung (lots of reflex!); the second one is strung. When the Peregrine is strung, the string doesn't touch the limbs, but the limb shave no real D-shape. So the bow is not IFAA conform, for what it is worth it...
Nice! Thanks for the pictures. I wonder if increasing the brace height some more will put the limbs into a D and make it IFAA legal. What quiver do you have on the bow?
Increasing brace height doesn't help, that was the first thing I tried :) .
On the bow you see a Thunderhorn quiver. After a few tries I found out I didn't like it on the Peregrine. It was my feeling that it brought the bow out of balance, so I shoot my Peregrines without bowquiver,that feels much beter. I use a backquiver but I am thinking about a hipquiver, since I want to carry a daypack on 3D tournaments.
I exchanged that quiver with a friend for a Thunderhorn Small Fry Sidewinder. This quiver utilizes the threaded bushings installed in your bow riser. I never liked those straps! I had to order some parts to make it fit, for it wasn't a sidewinder model originally. But Thunderhorn has all the parts and they give great service.
If you order something there, don't forgte to order their bowstringer, because that works just perfect. Both on longbows and recurves.
The Small Fry is smaller, has less weight, can carry max. 4 arrows, but I have always 3 in it. It is a great combo with my Phoenix which has inserts for a bowquiver.
Since the Phoenix is heavier in weight, due to the riser, that combo works for me.
I shoot a martin vision. 50@ 28" It shoots like a dream I have taken a few deer with it. It shoots quite and fast.
(http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/biggamefish/2010.jpg)
Black Swan Hybrid. Not strictly traditional with the metal riser but I find it a very striking bow. The performance is remarkable at 215 fps AMO.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8098/8424257998_aa6de1a8a5_b.jpg)
There are some engineering marvels with huge FPS and KE numbers, I'd never buy a bow based on either. How it fits the hand and how I shoot it means everything.
Thom
Allen Boice's Liberty Edge
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g447/elkhntr/IMG_0528_zpsb0ce6222.jpg)
Out of the dozens of bows I've had, it's by far my favorite. Here it is compared to my Liberty Contender
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g447/elkhntr/IMG_0721_zpsdd704273.jpg)
Not only shoots great, but a very beautiful bow, the black myrtle wood veneers are just awesome
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g447/elkhntr/IMG_0724_zpsc8f367f9.jpg)
Last month,Allen made my fiance a Edge almost identical, veneers from the same black myrtlewood & cocobolo riser, but 2in shorter & lighter myrtlewood in the overlays. She absolutely loves it and can't wait to hunt elk with it.
I like the R/D bows as well. To me they seem to have the best of both worlds. The light weight of the longbow and the better performance associated with the recurve.
Here are some pics of my latest addition:
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t512/subsonicjeep/Day62inchlongbow008.jpg)
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t512/subsonicjeep/Day62inchlongbow014.jpg)
Great bows guys, keep em coming!
Great Pic Matt. Good to see you post! You shoot that Martin very well. :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/cjohntalk/Bow%20Pictures/1333675303.jpg)
All of them look great! May I know what are the bows from top to bottom?
My 58" Acadian Woods "Tree Stick"
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f288/lamadman/8B7BD700-FCA2-449B-A842-189C0AD845DE-18104-00002BF01EF727DA-1.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f288/lamadman/IMGP0250.jpg)
This one is pretty extreme. But I like it. Right up there with the Liberty.
(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Badger/HHBadger.jpg)
(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Badger/HHBadger2.jpg)
Black Swamp. Very unique riser design.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/Szympruch/Bowpictures019.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/Szympruch/Bowpictures016.jpg)
Kabekona River. I personally think this has one of the best looking riser. Anyone shot one of these?
(http://www.gmarchery.com/uploads/1/2/2/2/12227860/5076063_orig.jpg)
(http://www.gmarchery.com/uploads/1/2/2/2/12227860/5946667_orig.jpg)
(http://www.gmarchery.com/uploads/1/2/2/2/12227860/1394213_orig.jpg)
(http://www.gmarchery.com/uploads/1/2/2/2/12227860/3016915_orig.jpg)
That black swamp riser looks kinda like that ancient Egyptian RD bow you posted!
Jimmy,
The Kabekona was the first Custom bow I ever shot. It was an excellent shooting bow. It was a buddies and it was an older one made by Jason Kendal. If he didnt sell it before I knew it was for sale, I may have tried to get it from him.
From what I hear they are still great bows.
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
QuoteOriginally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/cjohntalk/Bow%20Pictures/1333675303.jpg)
All of them look great! May I know what are the bows from top to bottom? [/b]
Certainly!
Big River Long bow (21st century design)
47@28 68"
Big River Long bow (21st century design)
45@28 64"
G&L Mantis (no longer made but a sweet lil bow)
52@28 56"
Old Red Wing Hunter now property of Sean B. on here. good luck prying that from him ;)
McCullough Griffin
46@28 60"
Thanks. That's a really nice looking recurve.
Just saw this work of art on Caribow's webpage:
(http://www.cari-bow.com/images/RH%2053%20Slynx%20Gabonebony%20back.JPG)
Lucky for me it was a right hand bow. :D
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o780/jakerr1/019640x480.jpg)
Here's a pic of my Tomahawk Legacy series. Quite a bit of d/r to this bow but it almost braces to a d shape.
Caribow's not only shoot great but Abe has the grip thing down!!! I had a Peregrine but it was a tad heavy for me and I sold it. Very nice Bow....
Check it out... sorry for the backround noise...
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Cari%20Bow%20Peregrin%20Grip/th_CariBowPeregrineGrip001.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Cari%20Bow%20Peregrin%20Grip/?action=view¤t=CariBowPeregrineGrip001.mp4)
QuoteOriginally posted by JamesKerr:
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o780/jakerr1/019640x480.jpg)
Here's a pic of my Tomahawk Legacy series. Quite a bit of d/r to this bow but it almost braces to a d shape.
It does look almost like a d shape longbow. Is it the one which you mentioned shoots slower than the diamond series? Do you have pictures of the other one?
(http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/ricks/rickspics5.JPG)
If they get any more agressive than this one they get called a recurve. But talk about sweet shooting and pulling. these are the first three shots by the new owner. He sent it to me and was kinda proud of himself. I don't blame him. LOl.
God bless you, Steve
(http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/ricks/rickspics7.JPG)
I love this thread!
:campfire: :coffee:
You are on my list Steve. Darned!
here are a few pics of a bow I used to own...
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/unstrungprofile.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/strungL.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/risershelf.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/riserr.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/gripfront.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/gripbelly.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
here are a few pics of a bow I used to own...
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/unstrungprofile.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/strungL.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/risershelf.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/riserr.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/gripfront.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/sas%20sale/gripbelly.jpg)
:eek:
May I ask the bowyer of that master piece?
Looks like a Bigfoot to me.
Ah the bocote sister, hope you're doing well John!
That's a Bigfoot Bows "Sasquatch" from Kirk Lavender.
Thom
This is gonna cost me....
I'm doing pretty good Thom.
How are you..keeping warm I hope..lol
Yeah sorry guys...Thom has it right on the bow.
here's a crazy one..
don't even ask the bowyer..I won't repeat his name.
Absolute nightmare getting this bow...heck I even ended up having to stain and finish it..lol
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Sythian%20bow/Mybow.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Sythian%20bow/LeftWeb.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Sythian%20bow/leftproweb.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Sythian%20bow/BackWeb.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Sythian%20bow/RightWeb.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Sythian%20bow/BellyWeb.jpg)
Oh, but you did well...
Nice! Though it's stretching the definition of a longbow. Or maybe that's a recurve that thinks it's a longbow? Made by Kirk?
yeah..I know..they're both sold as longbows.
It's your thread buddy.
I'll take em off if ya like.
:thumbsup:
here's my current joy...62" whip HS
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Whip/Unstrung.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Whip/Strungleft.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Whip/Riserright.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Whip/riserleft.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Whip/Riserback.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Whip/Gripbelly.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Whip/Widthatfade.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Whip/widthattip.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
yeah..I know..they're both sold as longbows.
It's your thread buddy.
I'll take em off if ya like.
:thumbsup:
Just kidding. If the maker calls it a longbow, who am I to argue? LOL. I love that Sasquatch though.
she's a pretty one that's for sure.
I know what you're saying about pushing it though..lol
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
QuoteOriginally posted by JamesKerr:
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o780/jakerr1/019640x480.jpg)
Here's a pic of my Tomahawk Legacy series. Quite a bit of d/r to this bow but it almost braces to a d shape.
It does look almost like a d shape longbow. Is it the one which you mentioned shoots slower than the diamond series? Do you have pictures of the other one? [/b]
It shoots slower at the same brace height but I went out and tinkered with it today and got it a lot faster without being any less smooth I ended up with 6.8" brace height. The diamond series pictures are on the first couple pages of this thread.
(http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Ryan/ryan17.jpg) (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Ryan/ryan4.jpg)
Here's a different bow than any shown, It is a belly mounted d and r with yew cores and triple carbon. Owned by a fellow trad ganger and elk hunter These make an easy transition from recurve.
God bless you all, Steve
This is one of my favorites of your takedown designs. Bet it shoots fantastic as it looks. Thanks for posting!
Man, Zradix, that is a trippy looking bow with that crazy handle. Never seen anything like that!
yeah...I really LOVED the looks of it..
SIXBY, you are an artist
Here's one that's somewhat aggresive and spits an arrow pretty good. 62" 56@28.5 (my draw) Really like the back limb mount. This one was made by a friend of mine. Shoots a 640 grain arrow 173 fps.
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/dmanwarren/100_2852_zpscda8b9c4.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/dmanwarren/100_2814.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/dmanwarren/100_2794.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/dmanwarren/100_2793.jpg)
BIG JIM Buffalo:
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/mouflon1.jpg)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/BJ4.jpg)
Fedora Xtrem:
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/P1010611-1.jpg)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC03143.jpg)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC03111.jpg)
Cari bow Peregrine:
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/nogueslaurent1-1_zps99f828f8.jpg)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/noguelaurent3_zps63020969.jpg)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/Magersfontain301-1.jpg)
Magnifique! Which one is your favourite?
The best shooter for me was the Fedora but the Peregrine Is the fastest and has the best grip and shelf design. i draw close to 32" and it was a bit stacky on the last inch of draw: a Peregrine in 64" with a better vertical limb stability would be my ultimate bow. But nobody want to make it!! LoL
The mots beautiful and best finish and best overall quality for the price Is by far the Big Jim.
I really would like to give a try to a Toelke whip, a Liberty Edge and the RER VORTEX 2 and that nice one piece Eaglewing that L82HUNT showed us is calling me ;) .
How about this dryad ilf with legend ACS 4G limbs. Shoots close to 200 fps (http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad38/jerseyboy-album/20130129_054104_zpsadc08098.jpg) (http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad38/jerseyboy-album/20130128_172635_zpsf1d25215.jpg)
No the purple slippers are NOT mine...lol
QuoteOriginally posted by jerseyboy:
No the purple slippers are NOT mine...lol
We will judge that after we take foot imprint samples and match them. ;) :p
Laurent,
Impressive line up of bows and memories! Thanks for sharing!
QuoteOriginally posted by hybridbow hunter:
The best shooter for me was the Fedora but the Peregrine Is the fastest and has the best grip and shelf design. i draw close to 32" and it was a bit stacky on the last inch of draw: a Peregrine in 64" with a better vertical limb stability would be my ultimate bow. But nobody want to make it!! LoL
The mots beautiful and best finish and best overall quality for the price Is by far the Big Jim.
I really would like to give a try to a Toelke whip, a Liberty Edge and the RER VORTEX 2 and that nice one piece Eaglewing that L82HUNT showed us is calling me ;) .
Thanks for sharing. That's a pretty long draw. I wonder how you hunt those beasts. Tree stand or ground blind? Getting pass throughs?
Wow! Hybrid bow hunter, that is quite a collection of bows and beasts!
How do you like the big jim buffalo at your draw? What length is it? I have a 31 inch draw and am looking at big jims bows as well as a few other aggressive and semi-short longbows. Do you have any recommendations?
Nativestranger, I assume he is getting lots of pass-throughs because most of those arrows in the pictures are not broken.
yes most of the time i got pass through except on the cape eland female. The corsican ram and rusa deer were open land spot and stalked animals. Others were south african hunt in elevated blind except the blesbok arrowed in a ground blind. i shot all the game with the big Jim 3 blade large heads but the rusa deer with an eclipse 2 blade heads and total arrow weight around 700 gr
Marley the buffalo bow is a 66" perfect for long draw. The Fedora is 64" also perfect for my draw-length . With 31" all of these bows would be perfect.
I just gotta show off the bow I just received in the 2013 Trad Gang Bow Swap. It was built by Cory Engert (heartlandbowyer). I'm typically a Hill style guy , but this bow has me questioning my loyalty.
THANKS CORY!!!!
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap2013/SAM_0765.jpg)
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap2013/SAM_0778.jpg)
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap2013/SAM_0780.jpg)
Not sure if this is all that aggressive, but I'll play if ya let me... :D
Just finished up all bocote, 45@28" 64" D/R, my own design..
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/SANY0033_zpsa2fdca78.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/SANY0034_zps1af23755.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/SANY0036_zps228f729c.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/SANY0037_zpsdfc7e682.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/SANY0038_zpsf5613d8c.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/SANY0041_zps67e5eaca.jpg)
BEAUTIFUL!!
I love bocote.
Those veneers leave nothing to be desired.
QuoteOriginally posted by jsweka:
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap2013/SAM_0780.jpg) [/QB]
What wood combination is this? Walnut & purpleheart? I like it a lot. Its a fine looking bow.
QuoteOriginally posted by jsweka:
I just gotta show off the bow I just received in the 2013 Trad Gang Bow Swap. It was built by Cory Engert (heartlandbowyer). I'm typically a Hill style guy , but this bow has me questioning my loyalty.
Lovely. How does it shoot compared to the Hill style bows?
emt137 - Yes, it is walnut and purple heart. It's has purpleheart under clear glass on the belly too.
Nativestranger - No handshock and much faster compared to a Hill style. And the nice thing is that I don't need to change anything with my form or aiming technique (split vision) when shooting this bow.
A Hill style bow is like an old reliable truck that will never let you down, but it's also nice to take a corvette out spin.
Anyone has pictures or opinions of Holm made Osprey longbows?
Excellent video of a Hummingbird hybrid longbow in action. I have never really shot a hybrid longbow before but gotta say this looks nice! No puff silencers on string and it's amazingly quiet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqMZ4_Vwm9A
(http://***********.bowsite.com/tf/pics/00small37435774.JPG)
Since we're on the topics of hybrid bows generally and Hummingbird bows specifically, I thought I should post about my Hummingbird 20th Anniversary Kingfisher Longbow. It's a truly outstanding bow. It is absolutely beautiful, the craftsmanship is unparalleled, and it's the sweetest shooter I've ever owned. It flings a 525-grain arrow at 208 feet per second and is dead in the hand.
The link below takes you to the pics.
https://picasaweb.google.com/115727283823568073135/Hummingbird20thAnniversaryKingfisherLongbow?authkey=Gv1sRgCMK3td-k2POVuwE
The riser is figured zebrawood inlaid with phenolic and the Hummingbird medallion. The back of the bow is crema etimoe from West Africa, and the belly is curly maple. Ben also inlaid two arrows into the belly, one on the top limb and one on the bottom limb. The core is a thick double lam of bamboo which makes it incredibly efficient and fast. It loves heavy arrows, particularly Beman MFXs with the full 75-grain insert and a 145-grain fieldpoint. It's almost too beautiful to take out in the woods... almost. Enjoy, and thanks for looking.
Another Kanati
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb117/katiejgilbert/Kanati/kanati2.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb117/katiejgilbert/Kanati/kanati.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb117/katiejgilbert/Kanati/kanati3.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by katie:
Another Kanati
Hey Katie. What do you think of the Kabekona River longbow compared to the Kanati? I really love the looks of these 2.
My green Griffin. (http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o244/2crazyboys_photos/DSCN0951.jpg)
"Shakira" my spalted maple G (http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o244/2crazyboys_photos/IMAG0385.jpg)riffin.
My 54" Cocobolo Shrew Classic Hunter:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/fz4vgq/My%20Shrew%20CH/ShrewClassicHntr54Cocobolo.jpg)
54" Bow Bolt Takedown Shrew Classic Hunter Carbon/Foam/Mystery Material. I sold this one to a fellow member as it was just a little heavy for me:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/fz4vgq/My%20Shrew%20CH/ShrewClassicHntr54.jpg)
Izzy, Looks like some thing is trying to eat your bow. Pretty good eye candy.
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
QuoteOriginally posted by katie:
Another Kanati
Hey Katie. What do you think of the Kabekona River longbow compared to the Kanati? I really love the looks of these 2. [/b]
The Kabekona felt a bit heavier. I would guess because of the wood. The Kanati's grip was a bit slimmer. I have small hands. Both are fast and quiet. The Kabekona that I shot had longer limbs than I normally shoot. It spit the arrow well even for my short draw.
Yes they are very pretty and great shooters. I have a takedown that I got in last Spring. I ordered it with the gloss.
Man I didn't know whether I was supposed to shoot it or hang it on the wall, it was like taking a grand piano outside. Or driving a new shiny mercedes to the feed store in this town that doesn't even have a stoplight LOL.
Honestly I just couldn't make myself take it outside, so I ended up sending it back to Ben to get it knocked down to a flat, much better now for me now and still a looker.
Scott
QuoteOriginally posted by bradglaza:
Since we're on the topics of hybrid bows generally and Hummingbird bows specifically, I thought I should post about my Hummingbird 20th Anniversary Kingfisher Longbow. It's a truly outstanding bow. It is absolutely beautiful, the craftsmanship is unparalleled, and it's the sweetest shooter I've ever owned. It flings a 525-grain arrow at 208 feet per second and is dead in the hand.
The link below takes you to the pics.
https://picasaweb.google.com/115727283823568073135/Hummingbird20thAnniversaryKingfisherLongbow?authkey=Gv1sRgCMK3td-k2POVuwE
The riser is figured zebrawood inlaid with phenolic and the Hummingbird medallion. The back of the bow is crema etimoe from West Africa, and the belly is curly maple. Ben also inlaid two arrows into the belly, one on the top limb and one on the bottom limb. The core is a thick double lam of bamboo which makes it incredibly efficient and fast. It loves heavy arrows, particularly Beman MFXs with the full 75-grain insert and a 145-grain fieldpoint. It's almost too beautiful to take out in the woods... almost. Enjoy, and thanks for looking.
Sika hunting in Maryland with my 58" Fedora Extreme. I don't know why but this bow is the easiest bow to shoot well in any situation.
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Lovely bow there Mike. What are the riser and limb woods on yours?
It's all osage. The limb veneers are cut curly osage.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/168372_185963578100435_2287455_n.jpg)
Eaglewing Carbon longbow by Sixby
Centaur Chimera
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/Chimera%20Feburary%202013/file-94.jpg)
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/Chimera%20Feburary%202013/file-80.jpg)
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(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/cecilm_2008/DSCN1679_zpsd4a331eb.jpg) (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/cecilm_2008/DSCN1681_zps0e6bbbbb.jpg) (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/cecilm_2008/DSCN1684_zpsd338b3aa.jpg) Just recieved this Black Canyon from Mike Hayes, it's the best shooting bow I've owned-just great all around could not be more Pleased.
Purplkeheart, Koa, Heavy D and R Eaglewing
(http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/deceagle/deceagle5.jpg)
EagleWing
Curley maple and Koa. Who needs snakewood?
carbon limbs , heavy d and r crazy koa and fiddleback koa limbs. veneers ground to .012
(http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/chis%26bradley/100_5685.JPG)
Sixby are those recurves or longbows? Look sweet.
Longbows. The strings do not touch the limbs at their brace of 7 1/4 inches. I think this is called the Agressive longbow appreciation thread so these fit that bill . Barely (grin) Technicaly they would be called hybrids I believe. Thanks for the compliment. God bless you, Steve :campfire:
QuoteOriginally posted by cecilm:
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/cecilm_2008/DSCN1679_zpsd4a331eb.jpg) (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/cecilm_2008/DSCN1681_zps0e6bbbbb.jpg) (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/cecilm_2008/DSCN1684_zpsd338b3aa.jpg) Just recieved this Black Canyon from Mike Hayes, it's the best shooting bow I've owned-just great all around could not be more Pleased.
Ill start by saying typically I do not like 3 pc hybrids, BUT this bow right here for some reason just draws me in. The grip looks fantastic and I have yet to see any other 3 pc that can hold a candle to this bow. WOW, I may actually order one.
Keep them coming guys.
(http://hunarchery.com/catalog/images/IMG_0710.JPG)
My sweet hunting package:
A Thunderchild, osage belly cocobolo back:
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i144/frenchymanny/IMG_0704_zpsd2ad9800.jpg)
I know this is an appreciation thread and I have fully enjoyed looking at every single image posted in this thread.
However, as Rob D. struggled in his mild R/D that braces to "D" thread, the interpretation is often extremely varied.
First off, for me it's not the amount of reflex the bow illustrates unbraced. It's the amount of reflex shown in the tips when braced.
If I were to try rank the top three most aggressive examples shown in this thread it would be the following:
1. Thunderchild (hands-down!)
2. Liberty Edge (Allen Boise)
3. Black Creek Banshee (Jim Gainey)
I know a BC Siren made the thread, but not sure if the Banshee made it.
What are others interpretation of aggressive?
:campfire:
~CB
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Dwyer Endeavor 58"
Also have a Java Man Elkheart on the way this fall. Really looking forward to that one
Wow! That Endeavor is extremely aggresive. Thanks for posting...
Always wanted to try one of those.
Sixby,
FITA rules say that when a bow is not D-shaped, it is a recurve. In the past it was the string not touching the limbs. That is also the reason why some bowyers make socalled "cheater bows": heavily reflexed, but limb shape in such a way that you still have a D-form when strung. When I shoot competition tournaments over here, My Cari-bow Peregrine is in the recurve class. But I must say, it gives me more satisfaction to beat the guys in the recurve class with their carbon arra's (I shoot wood) then my fellow longbowers :)
There is a point where agressiveness becomes a liability in the vertical stability department. I redesigned my Eaglewing because of that. Neat thing is I found out that the new limb was just as fast but much more stable and therefore more shootable for a lot of folks. You hear some people bless certain brands of bows that are very agressive and others curse (metaphorical) the same bow. Generally it is the shooter. A person with a non torqueing grip and a great release has no problem with shooting a verticaly unstable bow. A person that has a slightly less than perfect release with be complaining of fliars ect shooting the same bow that is a tack driver to the other shooter.
I want my cake and Iwant to eat it too. Iwant a bow that is stable., A tack driver , and fast. That is what I call a great bow. One with no impediments.
God bless you all, Steve
I need to figure out how to fix my biggest impediment...ME.
Have a hard time convincing myself that "I'll be soooo much better with a new bow"..lol
QuoteOriginally posted by Flying Dutchman:
Sixby,
FITA rules say that when a bow is not D-shaped, it is a recurve. In the past it was the string not touching the limbs. That is also the reason why some bowyers make socalled "cheater bows": heavily reflexed, but limb shape in such a way that you still have a D-form when strung. When I shoot competition tournaments over here, My Cari-bow Peregrine is in the recurve class. But I must say, it gives me more satisfaction to beat the guys in the recurve class with their carbon arra's (I shoot wood) then my fellow longbowers :)
Caribow Peregrine in recurve class? That's ridiculous. While speed monsters like whippenstick and 21st century goes undetected and matches up against hill style or string follow bows. The rules need some tweaking as I see it.
QuoteOriginally posted by Chromebuck:
I know this is an appreciation thread and I have fully enjoyed looking at every single image posted in this thread.
However, as Rob D. struggled in his mild R/D that braces to "D" thread, the interpretation is often extremely varied.
First off, for me it's not the amount of reflex the bow illustrates unbraced. It's the amount of reflex shown in the tips when braced.
If I were to try rank the top three most aggressive examples shown in this thread it would be the following:
1. Thunderchild (hands-down!)
2. Liberty Edge (Allen Boise)
3. Black Creek Banshee (Jim Gainey)
I know a BC Siren made the thread, but not sure if the Banshee made it.
What are others interpretation of aggressive?
:campfire:
~CB
I think most members can agree that any RD design that braces to a triangular profile with either straight or reflexed limbs is considered aggressive. Bracing into a D or having all parts of the limbs bowing outwards will be considered mild RD.
First off I think this degree of hybrid is really poorly defined and in some cases snubbed and not truely recognized for what it is. I think Ad's comment about his Cari-bow reflects that perfectly.
I see the categories slightly different than you do Jimmy. Your example goes from mild R/D to agressive R/D. I see it more as Mild R/D braces to D shape. R/D braces to triangle shape and Aggressive R/D (especially reverse handle) braces with reflex through the tip section. Clay's Endeavor is what I feel to be a perfect representation of aggressive R/D.
Always interested in learning but not sure if there is any right answer to any of this.
~CB
I know what you mean and I agree but for the ease of classification anything that is not straight hill style and anything that does not fit in Rob's thread can be considered aggressive. Otherwise we run into the problem of creating too many categories and it's really confusing.
Did I miss it, I didn't see any A&H 3pc and 1pc.
quote:
Originally posted by Chromebuck:
What are others interpretation of aggressive?
:readit: :biglaugh:
Wow, just when I thought this thread was dead...
I actually think the conversation about the classification of bows is quite interesting even though it is arbitrary for the most part.
I notice one of the guys I shoot with always seemed to call my Toelke Whip a "recurve"...too many times for it to be an accident. Apparently, he was unwilling to accept that mild R/D bow as a longbow. When I beat him in the longbow class at the end of the season he still was calling it a recurve...what gives?
I don't really care about what class I'm in at a shoot. I just want to shoot sweet bows that are fast, quiet, and stable. The more different ones I can try the better.
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Originally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
quote:
Originally posted by Chromebuck:
What are others interpretation of aggressive?
:readit: :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
QuoteOriginally posted by Flying Dutchman:
Sixby,
FITA rules say that when a bow is not D-shaped, it is a recurve. In the past it was the string not touching the limbs. That is also the reason why some bowyers make socalled "cheater bows": heavily reflexed, but limb shape in such a way that you still have a D-form when strung. When I shoot competition tournaments over here, My Cari-bow Peregrine is in the recurve class. But I must say, it gives me more satisfaction to beat the guys in the recurve class with their carbon arra's (I shoot wood) then my fellow longbowers :)
Caribow Peregrine in recurve class? That's ridiculous. While speed monsters like whippenstick and 21st century goes undetected and matches up against hill style or string follow bows. The rules need some tweaking as I see it. [/b]
It is ridiculous indeed. I shoot wooden arrows and a hybrid. But since the peregrine is not 100% D-shape, the organisations put me in the recurve-class. At the Dutch national championship, every bow was measured with a thin rope over the limbs. If the rope didn't stay in contact with the limbs all the way, they put you in the recurve class.
Due to this rule, some people even sell there hybrids, because they want to stay in the longbow class.
They blindly follow IFAA rules. But it is stupid when you think it over. The same bow, but a little bit more reflex; and suddenly you are in the recurve class.
I would say the string not touching the limbs is a better rule. Maybe we should start a new topic about this........
Anyhow, in order to make this thread longer, here you see two pics of the profile of a Cari-bow Peregrine. First is unstrung; second is strung:
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p525/FlyingDutchman25/Bows/PICT7402_zpsa4c7172f.jpg)
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p525/FlyingDutchman25/Bows/PICT7406_zps16284394.jpg)
And I sure do like the grip! Thumbstud for a great handposition and Abe's bevertails are second to none!
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p525/FlyingDutchman25/Bows/PICT7419_zpsd08fb857.jpg)
And lets not forget the antler options: antler riser and tips...
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And all this times two can make a man very happy :)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Flying Dutchman:
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
QuoteOriginally posted by Flying Dutchman:
Sixby,
FITA rules say that when a bow is not D-shaped, it is a recurve. In the past it was the string not touching the limbs. That is also the reason why some bowyers make socalled "cheater bows": heavily reflexed, but limb shape in such a way that you still have a D-form when strung. When I shoot competition tournaments over here, My Cari-bow Peregrine is in the recurve class. But I must say, it gives me more satisfaction to beat the guys in the recurve class with their carbon arra's (I shoot wood) then my fellow longbowers :)
Caribow Peregrine in recurve class? That's ridiculous. While speed monsters like whippenstick and 21st century goes undetected and matches up against hill style or string follow bows. The rules need some tweaking as I see it. [/b]
It is ridiculous indeed. I shoot wooden arrows and a hybrid. But since the peregrine is not 100% D-shape, the organisations put me in the recurve-class. At the Dutch national championship, every bow was measured with a thin rope over the limbs. If the rope didn't stay in contact with the limbs all the way, they put you in the recurve class.
Due to this rule, some people even sell there hybrids, because they want to stay in the longbow class.
They blindly follow IFAA rules. But it is stupid when you think it over. The same bow, but a little bit more reflex; and suddenly you are in the recurve class.
I would say the string not touching the limbs is a better rule. Maybe we should start a new topic about this........ [/b]
Lol so bows like the Bodnik quick stick and Black widow with straight limbs when braced are allowed in longbow class? I am also aware there some bows that will change this profile depending on brace height.
Do you compete against traditional recurves or metal riser ones as well? How do you fare shooting the Peregrine against them?
In my country all traditional bows are grouped under the same class. So we have self bows, Asian horse bows and metal riser + foam carbon limbs recurves competing together.
X2 on the Black Canyon. Love mine. Grip is perfect, extremely quiet...I mean quiet, smooth and no hand shock, very good speed. This is the first bow I have ever owned that I would not change one single thing. Most bows I can find a little something that is not just perfect about the bow but not this one.
Jimmy,
the Bodnik quick stik falls into the recurve class and the BW PL in the Longbow class. According to those silly FITAA rules...
Yes I compete against metal risers as well, like Hoyt gamemasters.
And yes, I fare well shooting against them. Last year I became even first on one tournament. They weren't even close. That feels sooooo good!
Most of the time I am in the top-10. Sometimes 2nd or 3th, sometimes 9th or 10th and everything between, all this with wooden arrows, while THEY shoot carbon.
At the official Dutch National Championship I became 12th in that class, exactly 1 point under number 11. In the Longbowclass I would have become 5th.
I could have done better, but the MS was already knocking at the door and I had to pull it out of my toes. The terrain was very rough, like a wild forrest and swamps and it was two full days.
The second day I was really exhausted. It was since then that I got a bad stroke from MS with paralysations, but I recovered. I am shooting again since a week or two.
QuoteOriginally posted by Flying Dutchman:
Jimmy,
Yes I compete against metal risers as well, like Hoyt gamemasters.
And yes, I fare well shooting against them. Last year I became even first on one tournament. They weren't even close. That feels sooooo good!
Most of the time I am in the top-10. Sometimes 2nd or 3th, sometimes 9th or 10th and everything between, all this with wooden arrows, while THEY shoot carbon.
At the official Dutch National Championship I became 12th in that class, exactly 1 point under number 11. In the Longbowclass I would have become 5th.
I could have done better, but the MS was already knocking at the door and I had to pull it out of my toes. The terrain was very rough, like a wild forrest and swamps and it was two full days.
The second day I was really exhausted. It was since then that I got a bad stroke from MS with paralysations, but I recovered. I am shooting again since a week or two.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Way to go!!! Great shooting. I believe a great archer can do well with any bow but I do like your choice - Cari-bow.
When you live in Canada, you'd better like Cari-bow! And Abe is a great guy.
But I like them a lot, for me it are the best hybrids out there. I prefer the Peregrine over a Centaur or Whippenstick hybrid longbow. But that is a personal matter ofcourse. I would say that the craftmanship of both bowyers is on the same high level. And also Ken is a great guy to deal with and gives an unbelievable customer service.
But I DO like the Whippenstick Phoenix. I just might prefer that 3pce recurve over my Peregrines. It shoots even faster and is even more silent. But I have to shoot that bow more to see what gives the best result.
Those cari-bows look pretty nice!
Keep up the good work competing in those shoots. Forget the silly rules...
AGGRESSIVE R/D:
Black Creek Banshee
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Dwyer Endeavor
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/warrenjr/100_0365.jpg)
Thunderchild
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Regular R/D:
Silvertip
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Pronghorn
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp284/willnorvell/33f54665-436a-4c4f-8cf5-3ac94a3b2b51.jpg)
Eaglewing
(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/chromebuck/00a563f6-93c1-4e48-9630-80b12942676b_zpsbb77cb28.jpg)
~CB
Okay, now you guys have gone too far. A few years ago I would have thought that these hybrids were too sensitive to make a good hunting bow. But I was told I was wrong and my wife liked bows that had a lower grip. So I got a custom short draw, 26", NAT for my wife. Not only was it not sensitive, it was also faster with the same arrow at same draw length as a reflexed 64" Hill style bow that was 15 pounds stiffer. So instead of getting one for myself, I came upon a really nice Grooves Spitfire and declared that to be my lighter draw speedy bow. Dang it all, I want that hybrid more than ever now and once again there are too many choices. I want to be able to sit flat on my butt pad lean against a tree and have ground clearance and still have a stable bow. I notice that the NAT is not in the Lost Creek line up and maybe I should get something different anyway. What do you all think is the best 54" hybrid at a 26" draw for a Hill shooting style shooter?
Welcome, convert! :) Your sins from the past are forgiven :readit:
For such a short lenght I would put my money on a Big Jim 54" Thunderchild and talk with Jim about the grip, since you are a Hill-shooter.
I added that for left hand, I have a 26" draw, I have to shoot with my stance a bit open because of a neck thing, so it shortens my draw a bit.
Ad,
Great shooting and thanks for sharing. All this sounds encouraging to say the least. I agree that beating metal riser recurves with a longbow must have made it much more satisfying.
QuoteOriginally posted by pavan:
Okay, now you guys have gone too far. A few years ago I would have thought that these hybrids were too sensitive to make a good hunting bow. But I was told I was wrong and my wife liked bows that had a lower grip. So I got a custom short draw, 26", NAT for my wife. Not only was it not sensitive, it was also faster with the same arrow at same draw length as a reflexed 64" Hill style bow that was 15 pounds stiffer. So instead of getting one for myself, I came upon a really nice Grooves Spitfire and declared that to be my lighter draw speedy bow. Dang it all, I want that hybrid more than ever now and once again there are too many choices. I want to be able to sit flat on my butt pad lean against a tree and have ground clearance and still have a stable bow. I notice that the NAT is not in the Lost Creek line up and maybe I should get something different anyway. What do you all think is the best 54" hybrid at a 26" draw for a Hill shooting style shooter?
Keep in mind that the shorter you go the more sensitive the bow especially if you come from a 64" hill style bow.
J-bow delta. Pure Finnish custom bow by Jarkko Kaunismaki. One of my shooting buddy from Finland told me about this great bow which he is going to order. It has some unique design to the limb profiles from the front. The narrow outer limbs works like a Holmgarde design. The performance is 203 FPS with 8,3GPP @ 27"
http://j-bow.fi/j-bow/J-Bow_Custom_Bows.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9095RQHNk4w
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Just made this one with the help of Heartlandbowyer, I think it counts as being aggressive. Seems very stable unless I really pluck the string. 62" 54@28
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(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/dmanwarren/100_3038_zpsb7e00fed.jpg)
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Very nice !!!
Two Rivers Longbows. Leroy Buckley. Something like this will be my next bow. Their osage backed with bamboo.
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/KGrHqJHJFMFEUYnqVUBRKtGF0q1w60_57_zps4fc954d4.jpg)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/T2eC16FHJHgE9n0yDj0vBRKtGBH34w60_57_zps81746aa1.jpg)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/T2eC16dHJHwE9n8iic-BRWMdQVCu60_57_zps0a4324c9.jpg)
He also makes a take down version like this.
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/camord2_zps254e19e1.jpg)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b523/Arkansas-Osage/camrd_zps40938e8e.jpg)
I would like a once piece with the camo wood riser backed with osage and bamboo, and then copperhead skins to protect the bamboo.
Ok. Digging this one up. Some great looking bows in these pages. Some of the newer folks might like to see them.
Nice. I love my Griffin. So many nice bows out there.
Stalker Stickbow Coyote
(http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a516/victoryhunter/006_zps8a46606c.jpg) (http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/victoryhunter/media/006_zps8a46606c.jpg.html)
(http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a516/victoryhunter/P1000670_zps15e628cf.jpg) (http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/victoryhunter/media/P1000670_zps15e628cf.jpg.html)
The Lost Creek web site has deteriorated to the point I don't even bother looking at it any more. As far as I know, though, Chad is still squeezing some bow making in with his day job. I would bet he still has the NAT form and probably all the others he's developed. I'd give him a call before giving up on the idea. He does make some mighty quick bows.
Osprey made by chad Holm
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j380/thadsoy/IMG_20130520_171437_201.jpg) (http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j380/thadsoy/IMG_20130520_171456_079.jpg) (http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j380/thadsoy/IMG_20130520_172242_373.jpg)
That's a beauty. Love the looks of the Osprey LB. Does it have any hand shock?
Not a bit ...and it hits hard.....the accuracy is insane :archer2:
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
...Love the looks of the Osprey LB. Does it have any hand shock?
Mine has what I would determine to be zero hand shock. Its just a wonderful bow to shoot. And with tuned arows its like an extention of your spirit- a matching component of your mind and body.
Just fantastic!
Joshua
yep what jhg said
Not best picture of my Caribow Peregrine but this will do. The limb action on this one is pretty unique. They bend mostly near the fades and the outer limbs are stiff like levers. I added a velcro rest and leather strike plate. The string is LRU XS2 with dacron pompoms. Extremely quiet and shock free even with 8.3 gpp arrows.
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Hi
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The Morrison Shawnee and Hummingbird 3 piece longbows each have good points. The Hummingbird is very forgiving w/o any hand shock , very accurate and one of the best looking bows around. The Morrison is very fast w/o handshock , but not as forgiving of sloppy form and release. Still find myself reaching for the Morrison most these days. It forces you to concentrate on a perfect shot-which leads to better scores for a average shooter. Thanks, Roy
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Dwyer Endeavor.
QuoteOriginally posted by flinthead:
The Morrison Shawnee and Hummingbird 3 piece longbows each have good points. The Hummingbird is very forgiving w/o any hand shock , very accurate and one of the best looking bows around. The Morrison is very fast w/o handshock , but not as forgiving of sloppy form and release. Still find myself reaching for the Morrison most these days. It forces you to concentrate on a perfect shot-which leads to better scores for a average shooter. Thanks, Roy
Would love to pics of that Humming bird.
How bout a Roy Hall Navajo Stick "Aztec". Neither of these are mine but the pics are good. Thought about getting rid of mine cuz I just couldn't seem to connect with it.....until...I had it out one day and just by chance shot some arrows that I thought would be way over spined for it.... And they just kept hitting the middle of the darn target....one after the other. Hmmmm. I kept it!!
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As soon as I get a nice day, and some time, I'll get some pics of a few of my bows. There have been a lot of really great pics and bow designs already posted, but I do have a few to add.
Right now though, I'll add a few comments on my Holm-made Osprey. I won't say that it has any hand shock so to speak, because it is not in any way extreme, but I do feel a slight bit of vibration. It's probably just my current set up. I need to play around with it a little more, and I'm sure woodies will help a lot.
That being said, there is just something really special about the Osprey. This bow gives me feedback like no other bow that I've shot! And I've shot a lot of really good bows. If my arrows aren't grouping well, I can tell what the problem is. Something that is very hard to distinguish with a lot of bows. It is the most forgiving bow that I own, and it is a great performer. I consistently shoot this bow the best! The price is really good, the two year warrantee is great, and the fit and finish is among the best that I've seen. They may not be the most flashy bows, but they've got it where it counts! Shootability, consistency, and good performance. I have become a better shooter with all my bows because of the feedback that I get with my Osprey. Chad is a great person, and very easy to work with. Thanks Chad. I love my Osprey.
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Just became a member!
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Cari-bow Slynx, I love this bow.
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Not the same bow but shows the strung and unstrund profile.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Broken Arrows:
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Dwyer Endeavor.
Gorgeous bows no doubt. This is going to be my next bow.
Here ya go, from my Dryad ACS thread on page 1. This thing flat out performs, the Westvang boys and John Havard did it right! I bought it new/never strung for a deal from a fellow archer, just to try one out with thoughts of reselling, but now not so sure I'm gonna give it up. It's a Ferrari.
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From my thread:
Dryad builds a winner. Craftsmanship pretty darn close to my Habu. Really lovely. For as great as this thing shoots there is some real value here.
Gorgeous bocote riser with black glass crescents. Very precisely made. The limbs fit the riser very positively and tightly with no play. Superb.
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I'll play.
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Bonner
QuoteOriginally posted by nineworlds9:
Here ya go, from my Dryad ACS thread on page 1. This thing flat out performs, the Westvang boys and John Havard did it right! I bought it new/never strung for a deal from a fellow archer, just to try one out with thoughts of reselling, but now not so sure I'm gonna give it up.
Beautiful bow! Do you have a close up shot of those limbs showing the ACS curved profiles? I have always wondered how they look like.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
QuoteOriginally posted by nineworlds9:
Here ya go, from my Dryad ACS thread on page 1. This thing flat out performs, the Westvang boys and John Havard did it right! I bought it new/never strung for a deal from a fellow archer, just to try one out with thoughts of reselling, but now not so sure I'm gonna give it up.
Beautiful bow! Do you have a close up shot of those limbs showing the ACS curved profiles? I have always wondered how they look like. [/b]
The curved profile is so subtle it's hard to capture it in pics. It's visible toward the tips but no picture I could take really showed it
I really love my A&H. Smooth and fast. I have fox royal crown ordered that I hope to see early next Month, can't wait to try it.
I really love my A&H. Smooth and fast. I have fox royal crown ordered that I hope to see early next Month, can't wait to try it.
I appreciate my 1999 model Hollenbeck R/D Longbow in 66" AMO. I got this buck with it last Friday, the day before Missouri's firearms opener. It's a little different design than most hybrids I've seen. It has lots of R/D, but the limbs are narrow with a thick core, sort of like a Hill longbow.
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Count 'em. Five lams of bamboo between bocote venners and clear fiberglass (//%5Burl=http://s647.photobucket.com/user/clintb_photo_bucket/media/hollenbeck%20longbow/hollenbeck03.jpg.html%5D%20%5Bimg%5Dhttp://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu192/clintb_photo_bucket/hollenbeck%20longbow/hollenbeck03.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
The narrow limb, limb tips & grip. That's all my "baby pics" for now. :)
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Big Jim Thunder Child
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Cascade Brush Hawk, 56" 53@28 this thing has changed my way of thinking. Just unbelievably stable, quick to point, accurate!!!!
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I need to do it justice and get some quality pics
Cool thread. I must have missed it the first time around. Here's mine (the one on the top :) ). Flatwoods Custom, 64", 47#@28". Jatoba riser with walnut/bamboo accents. Limbs are curly walnut under clear glass with bamboo cores.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Brianlocal3:
Cascade Brush Hawk, 56" 53@28 this thing has changed my way of thinking. Just unbelievably stable, quick to point, accurate!!!!
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I need to do it justice and get some quality pics
That is a beauty Brian, I have always thought they looked like neat little bows. Never have picked one up and doubt it would work for me since my draw length has grown to near 30", but they look nice.
You need to do it justice and keep them feet outta the pics! :biglaugh:
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Bigfoot Sasquatch, smooth, fast, accurate and quiet. Kirk makes a heck of a bow.
Next time I'll get a close up of those toes for ya
A lot of bows have been mentioned.Not sure if anybody mentioned the Liberty Edge?
One that's very nice and very very cool looking is the Liberty Edge.Superb aesthetics.Its pretty radical.But not as extreme as some like the Cari Peregrine or Centaur.
It also comes in longer lengths.Which may be attractive to some who prefer a longer bow.
Its very fast,stable and unique
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I sure like my Sarells Sierra.