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Title: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Slickhead on January 22, 2013, 06:09:00 PM
I may have asked this here before but would 25-30lbs be enough for small critters?
Cabelas has a dual shelf longbow for under $100.
I was looking for a lighter bow to shoot and roam with. Hunt Squirrels /rabbits ect with dowel arrows.

Basically a beater bow that I dont worry too much about
I have a Savannah but looking for something new.

Thoughts
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 22, 2013, 06:12:00 PM
Minimum hunting weight in NJ is 35# I think, you have to think if it will be an ethical kill with a light weight.

 And check the hunting regs in your area as well they may have a minimum weight as well
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: magnus on January 22, 2013, 06:20:00 PM
40#'s in Ohio.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Slickhead on January 22, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Im not sure 40 is for small game ,just deer
I'll check
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 22, 2013, 06:31:00 PM
Just keep in mind you get what you pay for, How good can a less than $100.00 LB be. Probably not very good. Check the classifieds and you may find an older bow (better quality) for just a tad bit more.JMHO
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Possum Head on January 22, 2013, 06:31:00 PM
It should do fine for rabbits but squirrel are quick!
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: xtrema312 on January 22, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
Other than regulation requirements you have to follow, you have to kill them effectively.  For a bow that light i would say broad heads, and maybe field tips.  Blunts will not do sufficient damage particularly on squirrels. Those things are tough. I can't recall the weight of my old yellow fiberglass bow and the draw weight at my draw length, but it did kill some stuff.  Probably not enough for the job per regulations or what I would use now.  I know the first coon I dropped out of a tree was not too worse for wear after he shredded my friends pants and then ran off.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: on January 22, 2013, 06:49:00 PM
why not the savannah?.....thats what its made for.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Traxx on January 22, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
I agree on the cutting heads and to stay away from blunts or shock type heads.
Also,in most states,bow hunting regs apply to large game.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Rob W. on January 22, 2013, 07:33:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by arrow30:
why not the savannah?.....thats what its made for.
x2
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Keith361 on January 22, 2013, 07:43:00 PM
^^ X3
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on January 22, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by arrow30:
why not the savannah?.....thats what its made for.
Exactly what I was thinking.  

X4

I think 30 lbs would be enough for a rabbit bout not squirrel unless you take some advice as mentioned above.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on January 22, 2013, 07:47:00 PM
One thing about rabbits though, you may need a bit extra Oomph to get through unforeseen twigs.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Slickhead on January 22, 2013, 07:51:00 PM
The savannah is a great bow, no doubt about it.
Its a little stiff for awkward angle shots.
But I may use it anyway
That way Im not swithing back and forth.
:)
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Slickhead on January 22, 2013, 07:52:00 PM
Thats switching;)
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: dnovo on January 22, 2013, 08:19:00 PM
Rabbits are pretty easy to kill, but in my experience, I want more bow for squirrels than I do for deer. They are tough little critters and you need to hit 'em hard.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: magnus on January 22, 2013, 08:59:00 PM
Did a little research and this iscwhat the ODNR book says. Sounds like 35# is legal to me. I agree on broad heads only though.

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Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Bill Skinner on January 22, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
I use a 68 inch Hill for squirrels, it really isn't a problem.

 If you use #35 for rabbits, it will work fine with blunts, as a matter of fact, the arrows will go through the rabbit.  It won't do that well on squirrels, unless you are good enough to do head shots.  So you will need some type of cutting head like a broad head.  Problem is broadheads stick in trees and arrows deflect all over the place, I've had to duck my own arrows.  You may want to look into making a point of thick banding straps, they're a lot cheaper than used broadheads.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: RM81 on January 23, 2013, 09:35:00 AM
I read over the regs and I don't see any mention of a  minimum draw weight for squirrel and rabbits.  If you look in the deer section, it specifically states min draw weight of 40#.  Makes me think there isn't a legal minimum.

I just called and was told that if it doesn't specify in the reg, then there is no legal minimum.  But like the others have said, I'd use something other than a blunt if you're going lightweight.

EDIT: This is for Ohio.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: tarponnut on January 23, 2013, 02:23:00 PM
I started when I was 9 years old with a fiberglass Ben Pearson recurve, 30#@28. I pulled less than that and killed a lot of squirrels, rabbits, doves, woodchucks, mice,etc.Squirrels can jump the string of any bow, regardless of draw weight,lol.
I'm sure I could have killed a deer with it when I could draw the full 30#(not that I'm suggesting anyone should).I was really accurate back then before t.p. and other maladies crept in.
Wasn't concerned or aware of any draw weight requirements in NY back then.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Dimondback on January 23, 2013, 02:38:00 PM
I shot a standing squirrel the other day square in the sternum (assuming they have a sternum) at 15 yds with my 55# R/D longbow and a "SGT" head. it flipped 3 times and hit the ground. Then it stood up again, barked something in "squirrel" and took off. I would stick with what you have.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Mike Vines on January 23, 2013, 04:04:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by lpcjon2:
Just keep in mind you get what you pay for, How good can a less than $100.00 LB be.  
I picked up a PRE Grayling Bear Archery Company longbow in showroom condition at an estate sale for $25.  I met people all over the great state of Michigan in my travels to find out what I had.  Was offered $1000 on the spot for it and walked away. It was not for sale.  Ended up trading it to a great friend who collects bows (I don't collect them) for what we both agreed was a fair compromise.  

So yes, you get what you pay for, and it was by far the best $25 I EVER spent.  Made lifelong friends and was introduced to the Michigan Longbow Association, which I am now President of.  

As long as it is legal hunting weight, and you want it..I say enjoy the bow.  I have never seen a Hearse with a luggage rack.  Enjoy it while you can.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 23, 2013, 04:25:00 PM
Good point Mike, my experience has been on the down side of the scenario.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Mike Vines on January 23, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
Only time something like that happened to me.  Wasted A LOT of money on other stuff though.
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: magnus on January 23, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Mike Vines:

As long as it is legal hunting weight, and you want it..I say enjoy the bow.  I have never seen a Hearse with a luggage rack.  Enjoy it while you can. [/QB]
Well said Mike!
Title: Re: rabbit and squirrel bow
Post by: Thumper Dunker on January 23, 2013, 10:37:00 PM
I would use your hunting bow Those rabbits and squirrels are going to be good practice why wast time shooting somthing vyour not going to use on big game . Why waist time practicing with somthing your not going to use.