I draw 29" and want a shockless, flat shooting longbow for 3d and small game. Speed is not all that important for me but I want something with good stored energy and efficiency. I have been looking hard at the available options and narrowed it down to Caribow (Slynx, wolverine or Peregrine? ), Bodnik Quick Stick or T.r.a.d.t.e.c.h Pinnacle II ILF with longbow limbs.
I am leaning towards the Caribow at the moment even though they are pricey. Are there any performance differences between the models? I like the short length of the wolverine but will it stack at my draw? Please help me decide. I am also open to other suggestions. Thanks.
Ive seen theBodnik and they look cool,the other I dont know,but the Caribows are some of the finest in the world.If you can afford it,you cant go wrong with Abes bows.I shot a friends and wish I had one.
Tolke
Caribow and if the price makes you pause, I'd look hard at a Toelke Whip.
Toelke, Liberty!
Wow. The Toelke whip must be something special. I will add that to my list of contenders. The price is more than the base Caribow though. Ok guys Toelke whip or Caribow? Anyone had both?
Have you checked out Leon Stewarts "Slammers"? I bought a longbow from him in 2007 and still have it. Great shooting and very smooth. Have been considering going to only long bow but still like a recurve, especially an Assenheimer.
My long bow is 66" 56@28. Shoots like a dream.
Check him out.
http://www.stewartsarchery.com/longbows.html
Toelke Whip HS.
So quiet, shockless and plenty fast especially with the new HS designed limbs.
Centaur.....I do not presently own one, sure do see and hear a lot about these bows though. I did own a earlier version, Selway Lil Shooter which is the same bow, same bowyer. The grip was amazing. sold that bow, wish I had it back.
Never shot a Caribow. I love my three piece Thunderhorn and if you are into a light one piece the Centaur are real shooters.
Another vote for Toelke. Whip Classic to be exact
I can't say enough about Zipper bows. Bill and Tracey Dunn are the owners and really put out a quality product. MIKE
You might want to check out Two Tacks bows as well.
I've got a Big Jim's buffalo going to built in a month. I would put him on your list.
QuoteOriginally posted by Ed Frye:
Have you checked out Leon Stewarts "Slammers"? I bought a longbow from him in 2007 and still have it. Great shooting and very smooth. Have been considering going to only long bow but still like a recurve, especially an Assenheimer.
My long bow is 66" 56@28. Shoots like a dream.
Check him out.
http://www.stewartsarchery.com/longbows.html
Thanks for the link. Leon Stewards bow looks really nice.
Centaur, Centaur, Centaur!!! :archer2: :archer2: :archer2:
The Centaurs do look really nice but a little out of my budget though.
Take a look at Spirit longbows by Bryan Holley from Colorado. He sells his bows through RMSG (a sponsor here). They're fairly priced and shoot great! I have a 48# Spirit in Cocobolo and Bocote that I couldn't be happier with.
Bernie Bjorklund
NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
I never shot the Toelke Whip, but I own two Caribow Peregines. About the finest bows you can imagine :) . I would stay away from the Bodnik/Bearpaw bows, they are NO match for Cari-bows.
Look at the site from Pete Ward for an extensive review of the Peregrine and the Wolverine and look for my 3-parts review here in the review dept. If you have any questions, send me a pm.
Be sure to check out Holm Made , Eaglewing, Two Tracks , Sasquatch, and all the other Sponsers. There are some really great bows that have not been names and I'm sure there's still lots more out there.
Also go to the adds and you will find some real steals on some really great bows.
God bless you and good luck, Steve
You may want to check out the Flatliner series.
These can be shaped individually to your grip style too.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/IMAG0209.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/SANY0032-1.jpg)
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I really like the lines of that phenolic riser. Looks like its 2 feet long.
God bless you all, Steve
And sure let's not forget all sponsors here: I once shot a tallon static tip recurve from Steve (aka Sixby) from Eaglewing Archery and that bow was right at the top; a true shooting machine. I wonder how Steve's longbows are...
And then there is Kirk form bigfoot bows, I never shot one but I sure would like to test-drive one of his flatliners...
Let's not forget about the Whippenstick longbow, one of the favorites of my buddy Hubert.
I shot the Centauer, but didn't like it. Too light and nervous for me.
I also would like to try a Thunderhorn...
The list goes on and on... :(
Brian Wessel at Tall Tines makes a superb 3pc takedown longbow.
Take a look at Wes Wallace bows. Not only a great bow but great customer service.
QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
I draw 29" and want a shockless, flat shooting longbow for 3d and small game. Speed is not all that important for me but I want something with good stored energy and efficiency.
I don't mean to be Mr. Negative and will not fault any of the above suggestions,...but, Based on your desired performance, I'd suggest getting thee to a trad shop and shooting some of these bows.
Hand shock can vary with arrow weight. Flat shooting is a function of arrow speed. Lighter arrows shoot faster but can bring on more hand shock. Bows with lighter limb tips will shock less.
Only shooting them will answer your questions.
I don't mean to be Mr. Negative and will not fault any of the above suggestions,...but, Based on your desired performance, I'd suggest getting thee to a trad shop and shooting some of these bows.
I was about to make a comment along the same lines...Then I saw the poster is in Singapore. Good Luck! I'm in Alaska an had to just blindly order without testing myself. It could be worst. All bows suggested in this thread are great bows. Enjoy your journey!
~CB
QuoteOriginally posted by Chromebuck:
I don't mean to be Mr. Negative and will not fault any of the above suggestions,...but, Based on your desired performance, I'd suggest getting thee to a trad shop and shooting some of these bows.
I was about to make a comment along the same lines...Then I saw the poster is in Singapore. Good Luck! I'm in Alaska an had to just blindly order without testing myself. It could be worst. All bows suggested in this thread are great bows. Enjoy your journey!
~CB
Lol that's right. The only bows I can test shoot are Olympic recurves and compounds. My next holiday destination do have some traditional gear but they are mostly Bear bows. Which is why I need input from members here.
QuoteOriginally posted by Flying Dutchman:
I never shot the Toelke Whip, but I own two Caribow Peregines. About the finest bows you can imagine :) . I would stay away from the Bodnik/Bearpaw bows, they are NO match for Cari-bows.
Look at the site from Pete Ward for an extensive review of the Peregrine and the Wolverine and look for my 3-parts review here in the review dept. If you have any questions, send me a pm.
Advice taken. Now I just need to dig out your 3 part Peregrine review.
If the Toelke whip sounds interesting, there have been some nice ones in the classifieds. Even given the overseas postage, they would be reasonable. Also, I didn't see any"D" type bows in your choices, but don't rule them out either. I've been an r/d longbow or reflex guy, but had a right-hand Mowhawk Sparrowhawk and now have a left-hand Border Griffon. Eye openers both!
Kirks, Flatliner is making quite a buzz here on Tradgang lately. Big Jim's Thunder child was the craze a while back. I have never personally shot either of those bows and am sure they are TOP NOTCH bows. The bow that shoots the best for me though and the grip is perfect is a dead tie between a one piece Tomahawk Diamond series and a Black Widow PLx 2 piece takedown with the standard grip.
Take a look at a cyclone made by legends bows. It has what your looking for no shock flat shooting with great speed at a great price.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bladepeek:
If the Toelke whip sounds interesting, there have been some nice ones in the classifieds. Even given the overseas postage, they would be reasonable. Also, I didn't see any"D" type bows in your choices, but don't rule them out either. I've been an r/d longbow or reflex guy, but had a right-hand Mowhawk Sparrowhawk and now have a left-hand Border Griffon. Eye openers both!
I am a leftie too and its hard finding used bow! What do you think of the Lost Creek Life ender? How does it compare to the Griffon?
MOAB orThunderchild.
QuoteOriginally posted by Kirkll:
You may want to check out the Flatliner series.
These can be shaped individually to your grip style too.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/IMAG0209.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/SANY0032-1.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/G-10%20Classic%20riser/SANY0010.jpg)
Those are nice but I prefer the looks of your Sasquatch. That's a fantastic design. Though I can't find much reviews about it online.
If I am informed right, Toelke bows like more heavier arrow weights. With my Peregrine I shot till 8.8 GPP without any problem. This might be important for 3D.
QuoteOriginally posted by Flying Dutchman:
If I am informed right, Toelke bows like more heavier arrow weights. With my Peregrine I shot till 8.8 GPP without any problem. This might be important for 3D.
That's interesting. My Assyrian shoots both 9.2gpp 3555 GTs or 7.8gpp 1535 GTs with almost no noticeable handshock.
THUNDERSTICK