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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: BigJ1632 on January 20, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
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Hello all,
I was wondering what type of points everyone uses when they are out for a day of stumpin'. I usually use plain old field points (just because it's all I ever used growing up), but I've seen all sorts of blunts and judo points in various catalogs and whatnot. I was just wondering how they all work and the application for the various types of points. I shoot Beaman MFX Classic arrows, so I'm not sure how diameter will come into play. Thanks for all the advice in advance.
Big J
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Plain 'ol cylindrical blunts of the same weight as my field points and broadheads. Far left in the image below.
When hunting I carry two ACE Hex Blunts in my quiver along with the broadheads. Better for small game but cost more.
When I go out stumping any of my small game heads are used - though the Magnus Blunt (with the insert for a blade) and the Modoc broadhead I reserve for breathing targets. I stump shoot with my glue-on deer broadheads with every arrow to make sure the arrows all fly properly - Stos and Magnus II or Ribtec 125W. If a broadhead doesn't hold up to stumps I figure it won't hold up to bone.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Bowhunting/HPIM2021.jpg)
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I like the four sided the hammer small game heads from 3 rivers. They stop an arrow from a 100# bow really well. Don't fret about diameter especially if its a larger diameter. Had a carbon shaft slide over gravel on the head and fletchings with zero damage to the shaft. The bigger the head, the more disturbance it cause going through weeds and tall grass and the less penetration into soft ground. They are tough as nails and are especially good at cutting the heads off flowers and puff balls.
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I like Judos. I use the same arrow that you mentioned.
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Judos and plain old blunts.
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Judos work great. You will have a hard time losing them, as opposed to field points.
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For stumping or just plain roving in a field Judos just can't be beat IMO. The problem with the Judo is its not very back quiver friendly. At least one Judo is always in my hunting quiver. Really like the Ace heads though, they go in and out of my back quiver very easy.
Eric
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I do a lot of stump shooting during the winter months and Judo points work the best. Very durable. Once in a while, I'll lose an arrow in the snow, but usually find it when the snow melts.
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VPA blunts.
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Judos!
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I prefer the Ace Hex Blunts.......and with a 1" aluminum footing it makes one tough stump'in arrow.
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After loosing quite a few arrows...it was nice to shoot judos and not lose e'm anymore.
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Another vote for Judos.
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i wouldn't ever stump without judo heads.
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Judos here too.
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Ever since i switched to hammers and sgt's i havent lost an arrow. Been using same points for years now. I have had judo come apart quite a bit. So the solid hammer or sgt get my vote
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Judos and SGTs.
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If there's a better head than a Judo for stump shooting and roving I've never sen it.
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I cut a large fender washer into a ”star” and bent the points upward. Then placed the washer behind the field point. Haven't lost an arrow yet.
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Stumpkiller, what is the head, that is second from the right in your pic, called? I use field tips or old bent greenies. I just keep putting them on arrows that survived the day, lol. Only real thing I miss about carbons is bringing back the same amount of useable arrows that I took with me.
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I take a t nut and drill out the shaft. I then take a 125gr blunt and put the t nut behind the blunt. The t nut have prongs and act just like a judo. Similar to a previous post about fender washers.
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Judos for me too
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Judos or a Martin adder behind a field point.
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Thanks for all the feedback fellas! I truely appreciate it!
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I use hex and hammer heads from 3 rivers. work good
just got done setting up some hunting/stumping arrows. cant wait to get out there after the squirrels
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Originally posted by hardwaymike:
Stumpkiller, what is the head, that is second from the right in your pic, called?
Second from the right is a Magnus Blunt. It used the Magnus bleeder inserts. Great for squirrels but the blade is delicate.
Third in from the right is a TigerClaw. Absolutely devistating on squirrel and rabbits but getting it back out can be nasty.
Third in from the left is my facorite squirrel and bunny point. It's called a GameNabber
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Judos here
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Another for judos
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Judo heads. Always regret it when I don't.
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I like the Ace Hex. It's indestructible but doesn't slide under the grass like a field pt or plain blunt. Judos are great too, but I've busted a few and they are pricey.
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Im with Fletcher on this one.Good ol Ace Hex blunts for stump shooting,however I love the Judo for grouse,especially the Condor.
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I always liked judo's, still do, tried some Ace blunts, so far,these things work great. Been shooting in the yard here lately, which BTW is frozen tundra, they stop on a dime, even on ice, while the judo's and G5's keep sailing.
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Judos most of the time but I have started to use the rubber slip on blunts also with great success.
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I like Judos a lot though recently I have started carrying the small game points by VPA i really like them.
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The nice thing about the Ace Hex blunts is that its diameter is slightly larger than the diameter of my carbons, making it easier to pull out of the occasional hard stump.
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I like the judo, Ace hex, hammer, and the VPA SGT. I use them all for stumping and small game at times depending on where and what I am shooting.
In the yard in the thick grass or field grass I like the judo because it grabs on well. The only issue is that they have very limited weights. A lot of times they don’t fit my set-up.
For small game, I like the hex heads especially for squirrels from a tree stand. They have a little better penetration than some due to smaller frontal area and still do okay keeping from burying too bad. I also like them for shooting hay bales. They are a good value. They don’t have quite as wide a weight range as some, but mostly they cover what you need. I don’t use them just playing around shooting in thick grass. I have lost a few doing that.
I like the claw things under field points for small game. A 175 field point with one of those claws under it gives me good penetration on a squirrel for kills, but helps on the misses to keep them from burying too deep in cover. They are a real cheap option. I don’t like them for actually shooting stumps unless you put them under a blunt.
The hammer is a great all around for small game and stumping. Very durable and grabs better than a lot of other blunts on the grass. They have a real wide range of weights. I like them a lot and use them a lot.
I love the SGT! Wide range of weights, really grab on to stuff, and super durable. I don’t know how you could make a better stumping head. They may not be my top choice for squirrels because I like something that will get more consistent and better penetration on those tough skinned little guys.
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I have increased the weight of judos buy going to the glue on ones. I used a 75 gr. steel broadhead adapter and glued a 125 gr. judo with J-B weld and wham 200 grs. up front! With a footed carbon it's darn tough :thumbsup:
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Forest around here is pretty open & if you choose rotten birch stumps (there are lots) you can get away with field points on wood or bamboo & duplex nails in the bamboo - M.
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RFA Talon Blunts/Small Game Points as well as Judo points. Both can be used for the occasional squirrel or rabbit that pops up within range.
Judo points make loosing arrows MUCH more difficult and can make removing arrows a bit easier at times.
RFA Talons can handle harder stumps better without breaking or skip off a rock better.
I like to keep Talons on my regular fletched arrows and Judo points on my Flu-Flu arrows. Any shot under 15-20 yards gets a flu-flu. Any shot at eye-level or higher gets a flu-flu. Almost all shots above 15-20 yards gets a regular arrow.
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...judos and saunder blunts...
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You know what i have found is really great is Rubber Blunts shot at a soccer ball, Football and tennis balls. Less broken arrows, and the rubber blunts dont pop the ball :) Plus when you hit it the distance changes instantly. It is my new favorite game.
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Submarin, I like that!!