Just wondering what the total weight of your whitetail arrow is.
Would also be interested in hearing your effective draw weight and the broadhead you use if you'd like.
780/800 grains with my setups listed below. I use 190/200 grain Grizzly ElGrandes/Kodiaks .
65lb at 30" three piece Leon Stewart slammer.
Surewood shafts, 160 grain snuffers and or grizzly el grandes, 4 fletched 4" feathers, total weight 718 grains.
650gns with a 50lb longbow
560 grains with a 58 lb mild R/D longbow
Blackwidow CHX 56" long 53@28" I draw 26.5" and shoot a 28" Gold Tip traditional with a 100gr brass insert and a 125gr woodsman elite. I use this setup for everything from 3d to elk. Widow
550+ grains on my 47# laminated selfbow 600+ on my 52# bows. 160 grn. Magnus 1 2 blade STOS or 190 grn. VPA glue on.
Somewhere around 580 grains out of a 61# longbow.
695 grains with a 49#Cari-Bow with a 4 blade Delta and a 75 grain Woody Weight behind it.
575 grain shaft with 125 grain magnus 2 blade,
I shoot 50 @28 1/2 with a long bow.
615 gr, 10gpp approximately 62#@31" 125gr Magnus Buzzcut with 100gr brass insert going 182fps It's my white tail/ elk/ turkey/ small game arrow
Depends on wood shaft type. Lately cedars around 550gr total arrow weight with a 125gr Zwickey or Magnus head.
Ash and lam birch over 700 with the same heads, all out of a 55# recurve.
I have 2 arrows set up for my 71# bow, I have been very pleased with the penetration :D
Pile driver 450, 425 grains
Brass insert 100
steel broadhead insert 125
Grizzly 190
Total 840 grains
Maxima 450, 325 grains
Brass insert 100
steel broadhead insert 125
Grizzly 190
Total 740 grains
About 450 to 500 from 40lb recurve, @27.
My everything set up is:
63# @28 Great Northern Critter Gitter
680gr Easton Legacy 2020
Glue on adapters with 165gr simmons interceptors
Sometimes i use self nocked 55-60 cedar with a 125gr woodyweight and a 125 gr woodsman for a finished weight of around 650-680
55/75 expedition hunter with 200gr up front, 470gr total weight from 52# recurve
31" cedars ,75-80 spine,tapered shafts , crown dipped and crested , 2 coats of poly ,3 - 5 1/2" shield burnt wild turkey feathers Zwickey delta 4 blade
625 grains
shoots like a dart out of every bow I have shot them from ranging from 47@ 31 to 64@ 31
51-53# longbows shooting cedar with Zwickey Deltas or Magnus I. 580 -600 grains.
29" 400 Traditional Only (Easton) carbon, 100 gr. brass insert with 250 gr. VPA Terminator-635 grains. 62", 53#@28" Widow PLV or 62", 54#@28" Widow PLIII. Shot basically the same set up from my MOAB.
Mike
550gr. Magnus 125gr. 2blade. 55#@28" recurves. ( ;) nut)
650
29 1/4" white ash, 270 up front, 780 gr.
505 grains 53#@29
My primary & back-up.
600 gr +/- 11/32" fir, 30-1/2" BOP (last 12" tapered down to 5/16" nock), 130 gr Stos head, 52#@28" bow drawn to 29-1/2" for 55#+/-
540 gr +/- 23/64" cedar, 30-1/2" BOP (full-length taper down to 5/16" nock), 125 gr Magnus II, 46#@28" bow drawn to 29-1/2" for 49#+/-. Same bow shoots the above Douglas fir arrows well, also.
I have too many bows and set-ups but my two go to bows would be
50@27 palmer classic, 150 heritage with 100grain insert and 125grain point I think totaling with fletch and wrap around 570 grains.
2nd is a Darton Pittsley preditor, 50@28 w/8S-SPD string, heritage 250, 100grain insert and 200grain points and totals 640grains..
broadheads can be anything I have em all, with these arrows if the hit is right pretty much any sharp broadhead works and goes right thru,, But make note I shoot the heaviest arrows I can for quietness and stability..
2117's are 535 grain. Shoot these from all my bows.
AD Trad Lites are 600 gr. Shoot them from recurves.
SuperCeeders 590 grain...shoot these from recurves.
Barrel tapered Ash...625 grains....shoot these from my recurves
My bows are 51-53@28". Arrows are between 550-580gr.,100gr. brass inserts and 150gr. Magnus Stinger broadheads.
Bill
Check out my signature below for my specs. Currently using Magnus vented 2-blade heads.
50# at my DL with a 530gr arrow.
Broadhead is a 150gr German Kinetic Silverflame XL ( 1 1/2" wide ).
Bisch
49lbs at my draw length. 29 inch goldtip traditionals 35/55 with a 100 grain insert & 180 grain silverflame XL for a total weight of about 515 grains..
gold tip shaft dipped in yellow
4 4" yellow feathers
100 gr brass insert
150 gr WW
510 gr total for every thing; Mule deer, whitetails, elk and an occasional hog.
591 grains at 48#s
470gr with 5575 Gold Tip Trads and 530gr with 2217's. All my bows are 50# plus or minus 2 pounds at my 30" draw. Two blade Zwickey's, Bears or Magnus Stingers on the business end.
I use Arrow dynamics trad series on my 55# and 60# Tomahawk longbows. My arrows finish up at around 650 grains with the 100 grain brass inserts and 175 grain VPA 3 blades.
Had to go back and check on your title, looks like some guys are ready to shoot white whale not white tail... ;)
Last year I ran 575gr. Gt 5575 out of a 51@28 bow for about 165 fps. Shot through everything. Looks like this year will be about 600 as I want to try wood and they are all coming in around 600-640. I also got a bunch of 2020s cheap that weigh about the same.
Mine are 580gr total my bows are 56-60lb
550 grain out of a 53 # bow.
Over the past three years I've hunted with arrows that weighed 424-505 grains with identical pass-through results. My broadhead has been a 125 2-blade single beverl every time.
My draw weights for hunting have ranged 46-48 pounds. A different hunting bow each year (for the fun of it).
My set-up
30-1/2" MFX Classic 400 w/3 3" shield cut turkey feathers, 50gr Hit insert 190gr Simmons screw in Tree Shark and Bohning Signature nock. Right at 570grs.
Nothing wrong with heavy.
Out of my 58# Centaur, I'm shooting 2216's tipped with 160 grain snuffers with 100 grain steel inserts. Somewhere around 650 grains with all the bells and whistles. Prior to the snuffers it was 4 blades eskimos with 125 gr steel insert.
I shoot the same set-up out of my 56# Assenheimer.
50# at 27"= CE 150 580-600 grains with 250 grains up front using Magnus 1 or 1 1/4" VPA.
My hunting bows are 48-51lbs and my arrows are 450-500gr., depending on which I'm using. I am using a 175gr. Woodsman Elite on all at the moment.
575 gr. - 675 gr. Beman MFX. 51#@28 ACS 3 piece longbow. Broadheads; 250 gr. 3 blade VPA's, 175 gr. Abowyer Wapiti, 135 gr. 2 blade Magnus I and 135 gr. 2 blade Zwickey Delta's. I occasionally use 200 gr. LW Grizzly's as well.
Any good, solid, COC BH of 2, 3 & 4 blades for deer will be lethal...so redundant.
Kris
550 to 580gr Gold Tip 55/75 cut to 28", 50gr brass insert with the muzzy phantom 200gr two blade or 220gr 4 blade broadhead.
About 485-535gr. depending on which bow I am hunting with.
This season's whitetail/hog setup:
68" 62@28 Northern Mist Classic
70-75 Surewood (Douglas fir) shaft + 100gr woody weight + 160gr Magnus I = 650gr finished weight
31.5" Trad Only 400
75 gr brass adapter
160 gr broadhead
563 gr Total
47# @ 30" longbow (12.1 gpi)
595 (Trad Only 400s with 50 grain insert and 250 VPA terminator) pulling about 52#, thinking of dropping down about 50 grains next year.
The spectrum of confidence is quite vast.
Just weighted some of mine about 3 weeks ago. My recurve is 64# and the arrow weighed 628, my longbows are 67# & 70# the arrows weigh in the 650-660 range.
[]I just build an arrow that shoots well and has some good weight. I don't really have a GPP that I shoot for, I just use what works.
660 grn Surewood Doug Fir (by Snag) w/ 175 grn Abowyer heads
Around 540gr.
Trad Only shafts with 200gr woodsman elite
3 x 5" shield cut feathers
870gr total weight Grizzlystik Safari 29" BOP, 250 gr Woodsman Elite or 215 Widowmaker.
565gr. for 5 bows running 55#, 56# and 61#. I have Carbon Express Heritage 250's I use for practice and 3-d, I use beautiful woody's for my hunting. They weigh the same and fly well from each bow. They run between a little less than 9gpp to to just over 10gpp depending on the bow. I have some Heritage 350's running about 730gr. for heavier work that are awesome. No woodies in that weight yet, working on it soon though.
475 grains total from either my Kanati or my RER XR. That's just over 10 grains per pound of draw at my 28" draw. My usual broadhead is a Zwickey Delta, but I've got some Simmons Tigersharks of the same weight that I'm going to give a go. These arrows travel at 175 to 185 fps from those bows respectively.
They make whitetails dead, which is really all I ask of them, LOL! Oh, and it doesn't take them long to get that way either.
I've tried heavier than 10 gpp, but really can't say that it made a difference. I have no desire to go lighter. My setup tunes to perfection, which is what I'm after.
About 800 gr out of my 55-60# bows. 300 gr Big Jim or 300gr Extreme.
About 570 finished weight.....cedar arrow tipped w/160 Ace standard with my holenbeck longbow. I use this setup for deer,black bear,and turkey.works great
Friend, Sir you crack me up, you sure have an interesting way with words. Now back to the subject matter. I have arrows for two different set ups. one arrow weighs 477 the other 512 Both wood shafts :thumbsup:
Current set of woods are 620+/-gr. total, 70-74 spine Sitka Spruce (Hildebrand) shafts, Snap on nocks, 5.25" vinyl wraps, 4 5" fletch, tapered shafts with 225gr Tuffheads. 53@28 62" Whip longbow draw 28.25".
Douglas Fir shafts(80-85#) full length 3@ 4.5" feathers and a 160 grn Hill head = 710-715 total weight.
I have never harvested a whitetail with a trad bow, but my setup is a 48# @ 31" longbow, shooting about 710-grain arrows. I shoot full-length 2117 aluminums, with 125-grain glue-on Wensel Woodsmans and a 75-grain adaptor. They fly like darts, and I suspect they will do the job if I can get them there.
low to mid 50's bows at about 10gpp
2219's, 29.5 in in length with a 175 grain WW broadhead. 630 to 640 grains from a 63 to 70 # recurves.
580 out of 65-70# bows....175 Grain 4 blade Zs
But I've learned years ago the old adage isn't always true...
Heavy is NOT always better....so, when in TX I go lighter...
doug fir with 190gr Ribteks on front, 31 inch long arrow. 650gr
ash arrow with 200gr Grizzly on front, 31 inches. 720gr
565 with 23 % EFOC. I use the same arrow for elk, moose , deer, bear, turkeys and three D
46-49# bows, carbon, wood, or Alum. 575-650 gr arrow 31" long with a 2 blade up front!
Last year...
45#@28" 62" whip HS 450 grain total with VPA 175 3 blade.
Shot a decent size doe at 17yds. Penetrated to about 3" in front of feathers. Arrow entered high and back...just getting some liver. Caught a couple/few ribs in and out. Broke one, sliced/nicked 2.
This year..
Same bow, same draw, shooting a 300 grain VPA 3 blade on same shaft. Comes out to 575 grains total.
Full length MFX500 with triple 5" parabolics, 125g 3 blade Snuffer shot out of a LS Slammer takedown @ 53ish pounds
540 grains out of 52 pound recurve
700 grain tapered Surewood.
My bows are in the 52 to 56# range at my 26 inch draw and I shoot arrows from 480 to 520grs out of all of them.
500 to 600gr
Have authenticated notable success from a 51@28 bow utilizing the following arrow design:
Victory VForce HV 350
100 grain insert
300 gn Big Jim 'Big 3"
Total Wt - ~610 gns
Fervently conceive that this particular set-up exceeds far beyond what may be considered lethal for whitetails.
530gr arrow out of a 50# at my DL longbow and recurve. I shoot 150gr German Kinetic SilverFlame XL broadheads.
Bisch
475-600gr
650gr doug fir out of my 58# BW longbow
550gr 2117s out of the same BW
570gr 2018s out of of my 51# Spirit and BW longbows
I'm shooting 490 gr arrows out of my new bow. 48@28 Full length GT Trad 3555, std insert, 175 gr 3 blade VPA with 3 4" parabolic feathers. Fly like darts!! Will test them out on hogs in 3 weeks!
Right now I have 3 different arrow set-ups for my various bows, but all come in between 9.7 - 10.2 GPP.
Usually around 525. shooting 47-50 lb bows. My last few critters have been killed with 475 out of the same bows.The 475 seems to shoot better. Seems I may have been bogging my bows down a bit. I dropped from 55-58 lbs and kept the same arrow weight fearing lack of penetration which has turned out not to be a problem. I put more focus on hitting them in the ribs than how much my arrow weighs these days.RC
"Hitting them in the ribs"....
Great answer...
Another for arrow weight might be,
Avoid Extremes..
Everything from rabbits to Elk:
55# Black widow long bow
Gold tip
yellow dipped
4 4in yellow feathers (left wing)
100 gr brass insert
125 woodsman or 120 gr grizzly
total is 500 gr
450gr out of my Quinn. 54lb @ my 30 inch draw.
Somewhere between 485 and 535 lately. Seems I can shoot 175 gr heads or 225 gr heads with no noticeable difference. Must be the carbons. I shoot 49-50@29
Launching 550 grs from a 40# Great Northern LB. Whitetails are afraid to step out in the open in my huntin' area !!!! Horserod
RC mentioned "bogging" down your bow...Personally I think he is right....
My long time "go to" bow hits 73 lbs at my 29 1/2" draw, I keep my arrow weight under 800 grains, because any more it seems to "bog" it down.
Footed 30" 3355 w/ 3-4" fletch, 100 grain insert, 125 BH weighs in @ 550 for me flung out of my 45-50# Widows.
31.5 inch east axis 3 4" fletch standard inserts 200 gr muzzy phantoms for a grand total of 520 grains shoots 194 fps out of my Selway Lil Magnun 60" 60lbs at my draw. Eichler has proven to me you don't need serious arrow weight mine shoot great! And hit hard I wouldn't be afraid to use my set up for every critter in North America id probably go to FMJ for moose though
495 gr. Easton Axis 600 150gr broadhead with 75gr brass insert, 3-4" feathers cut @ 27". 44#@26 1/2" 60" recurve with Bear Weather Rest. Arrows fly like darts. Every whitetail that I shot at I had complete pass threws.
was shooting 505 grain last year and 53# @ 29" ... just switched to left hand so im working my way up. was very happy with my setup and proved very effective for white tail.
No white tails here but my arrows are about 480gn For 55-60lb Bows. All my bows are hunting bows and all my arrows are hunting arrows when not hitting targets.
I don't have a whitetail arrow per se but build an arrow geared toward the heaviest animal that I might encounter and that is elk.I sometimes sit over springs and anything could show up at any time-deer,bear,lion or elk.I also like to keep one weight and get used to that trajectory,so most of my arrows are 650-700 grs out of 53-55# bows.My favorite weight is about 13 GPP.
All my arrows are hunting arrows from frogs to whitetails, I shoot around 9gpp. so mostly 460-475 grains! Shawn
This years set up is a bit heavier. 580 grains out of 52 pound longbow. I feel this will also be a deadly combo for Ohio bucks.
475gr from 45-47# bows
477 grn 45 lb @ 25 1/2"
530 grn 52 lb @ 251/2 "
Flat trajectory, good speed and plenty enough for Deer. Two blade Zwickey or Ace 125 grn Zwickey for the 45 lb and 160 grn Ace for the 52 lb
580 grains from my 50lb. Zipper.29" CE Heritage 150 with 250 grains up front.
560 grains with my Redstag, 57# @ 28. Arrows have a 100g brass insert and I'm shooting a 150 grain Steel Force Hellfire 4-Blade from 3-rivers, so 250g on the business end!