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Title: Long Draw shooters
Post by: KRW2 on January 15, 2013, 05:08:00 PM
Can any one with a 31 or + draw recommend a bow that doesn't stack? At that length have been through half a dozen bows but all seem to hit the wall around 30 just wanted to see what you all thought?thanks for any info
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: wingnut on January 15, 2013, 05:20:00 PM
I draw 30 1/2 inches and can put together bows that don't stack for what ever draw length you want.

Just don't ask for a 56" longbow. . LOL

Mike
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: Tall Paul on January 15, 2013, 05:23:00 PM
I shoot a 64" Schafer Silvertip recurve and don't notice any stacking at my 31.5" draw. But I've seen other threads on here where people recommend lots of other bows that work well for long draws.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: bbold on January 15, 2013, 05:30:00 PM
I shoot a Black Widow PMA 64" I draw 31". It draws like butter all the way.

James
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: northener on January 15, 2013, 06:00:00 PM
I have a 30" plus draw length. I am willing to bet most if not all of todays top Bowyers could produce a bow fit to your draw length without stacking.

Like wingnut said just don't expect a short bow. A 64" recurve will probably be your shortest recurve bow and 66" recurve would be better. Longbows 66" to 70" would work great.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: Archie on January 15, 2013, 06:04:00 PM
My 66" Black Widow longbow is smooth out past my 31" draw.  My 64" BW recurve is also nice and smooth to 31".

I was shooting a 64" Bob Lee Classic and it pulls nicely out to 31".  It gets tight right around 31" though, and I wouldn't want to draw much longer with one of those.  Great drawing and shooting bow, though.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: manitou1 on January 15, 2013, 06:20:00 PM
I shoot a 64" Black Widow PMA with my 32.5" draw... and have room to spare.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: wtpops on January 15, 2013, 06:22:00 PM
Anything built to your spec...

As said above talk to Dryad you can't go wrong there. I like my black widow
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: old_goat2 on January 15, 2013, 07:15:00 PM
I've had same problem, trick is it seems to get a bow 62" or longer and one that's rated well below what you want it to be at your draw length when measured at 28". I just got a 64" bow and it seems to be the ticket! I draw 31".
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: David Yukon on January 15, 2013, 07:18:00 PM
I have a 62" PSAV that seem to be really smooth to my 31" draw(hight wrist).
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: KRW2 on January 16, 2013, 04:25:00 AM
thanks , any others to try?
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: Bow man on January 16, 2013, 06:27:00 AM
We have a guy drawing 32"  shooting our 64 bows. Both the recurve and Longbow He loves them.

I also see you are from PA wait to order a bow at Denton hill then you can shoot a bunch of bows from differt bowyers and find what will work best for you. Or contact bowyers that have a test shooting program
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: onewhohasfun on January 16, 2013, 06:44:00 AM
If your looking for a shorter bow a 56" shrew classic hunter will handle 31". Gotta look for a used one tho.
Gregg at Java Man can build you one.
He is a sponsor here.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: northener on January 16, 2013, 07:46:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by KRW2:
thanks , any others to try?
Wes Wallace bows....I have several, recurves and his longbows. All but one have bamboo cores, the other is red elm. The red elm core draws very smooth but it also was built to my draw length. Not saying anything negative about bamboo cores as they would probably be my first choice as a  limb core material. Give Wes a call, discuss your problem, I'am confident you will be very satisfied with his bows performance.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: TDHunter on January 16, 2013, 11:55:00 AM
I've got a couple of 62" Thunderstick MOAB's and my one piece is Bamboo Core with Bamboo Lams and it is smooth like butter, whisper quite and super fast. Much more so in every aspect then my other MOAB with different woods. It is truly leaps and bounds ahead of anything I've shot when it comes to pure smoothness.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: legends1 on January 16, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
I have a 31" draw. I designed my bows to draw smooth to 31" + because I hate stack. Take a look at our website . If you have any questions I would be glad to answer .
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: KRW2 on January 16, 2013, 12:37:00 PM
From what you guys are saying guess I should be looking at 64+? Inches
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: KRW2 on January 16, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bow man:
We have a guy drawing 32"  shooting our 64 bows. Both the recurve and Longbow He loves them.

I also see you are from PA wait to order a bow at Denton hill then you can shoot a bunch of bows from differt bowyers and find what will work best for you. Or contact bowyers that have a test shooting program
thanks bro, but missed denton hill last 3 years , i do lawns and the dry season is about over at that time so back to work, and with no trad shops that i know of its been buying bows without shooting them so needless to say sold my last 5 or 6,now trad bowless, not to mention the hit ive takin on the resale, lost a couple grand already trying to find one, thus the post
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: Michigan Mark on January 16, 2013, 04:17:00 PM
Mike is a sponsor here give him a look I draw 32" and do not find his bows to stack for me  https://bruinbows.com/HOME_PAGE.html
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: mnbwhtr on January 16, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
64+ yes but I've found a few shorter that are as good. I used to have a 32 in draw and shot 62 inch bows with the smoothest coming to mind the wing thunderbird 62" and the carrols t/d if you can find one.The carrols was actually 58". Now I'm shooting a 62"Silver tip and Bear t/d with 62" RER limbs and find both very smooth. My draw now has shortened to 30 3/4.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: Bozz on January 16, 2013, 04:35:00 PM
I have a 31" draw and my Legends bow hit the weight right at my draw legnth. Draws smooth, shoots fast, and no hand shock. I feel your pain. I broke 4 bows in 5 years the only ones I haven't broke yet, are my Stewart, and my Legends. Both men stand behind their work. Since you're in Pa. you might look Leon Stewart up, go shoot some of his bows at his shop.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: Big Ed on January 16, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
Where are you at in PA? Maybe we can get together and you can shoot my bows. Also Leon Stewart is in PA and only a couple miles from my place. Let me know if I can help
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: KRW2 on January 16, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
My buddy shoots a 62 leon , didnt work either hit the wall maybe need longer ? Don't know at this point , do I need a bow to be made to 31 ? , or can I buy a off the shelf bow that will pull 31 without the stack , talked to a upper end bowyer and he said only his new limbs wouldnt stack on me and he said a lot of bowyers will tell you that there bows wont stack either but if you were to test them after 30 inches they would show a poundage increase,getting increasingly greater as you go over 30 in , he told me that's the nature of the trad bow and even his longbow limbs wouldnt work for me if I wanted to shoot in the sweet spot not at the end of it , he knows of only a couple of bows that would do me justice , just trying to figure out which ones, now looking used instead of taking the hit on new until I find a couple that will actually shoot in the sweet spot instead of at the end
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: stagetek on January 17, 2013, 12:22:00 AM
I draw 30.5 and neither of my Predators stack. One is 60 the other 62". My B handle Bear T/D's with # 3 Rose Oak limbs do not stack. And my 64" RER LX doesn't stack. I notice some stacking in my one piece 60" Super K's. But, very little, if any in my one piece 64" Super K's. The worst bow I've "ever" owned was a 71 or 2 Super Diablo. 55# @ 28" AND 71# @ 31". Plus or minus a couple of lbs. on three different scales. Now that's stacking !!
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: stagetek on January 17, 2013, 12:34:00 AM
KRW2, I remember reading somewhere, that a long riser with short limbs will stack more than a short riser with longer limbs. But, the former will produce more speed. Perhaps thats why my Super Diablo was a fast bow.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: duncan idaho on January 17, 2013, 12:38:00 AM
Bigfoot Bows. Kirk will build you anything you need with no stack and great performance. Check out the recent thread on his 64 inch recurve.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: Big Ed on January 17, 2013, 08:09:00 AM
I know my 64" Schafers are very smooth. I do agree with the shorter riser longer limbs make a bow much smoother. With a 31" draw you shouldn't have any issues with performance. I also have a Widow PLX Longbow that is 66" and really a pleasure to shoot. My offer is open for you to shoot my bows!!!
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: KRW2 on January 17, 2013, 09:10:00 AM
thanks for the offer Big Ed, but im in sw pa looks like we are about 6 hrs apart, got a couple buddys who shoot trad , but all shorter stuff,trying to get to denton hill this year to try some, Ken
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: atatarpm on January 18, 2013, 08:19:00 AM
Alaska Bowhunting's Qarbon Nano
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: speedwalker on January 18, 2013, 09:14:00 AM
I  draw 31-32" and i have a 68" Stewart Longbow that I really like, and a better person you won't find.
Title: Re: Long Draw shooters
Post by: Trumpkin the Dwarf on January 18, 2013, 01:42:00 PM
It seems that every time I turn around people are asking for recommendations on bows to fit their specific needs. Usually I tell them to give Dan Toelke a call. Not because Dan is a magician but because I have shot all his bows and talked to him personally, my experience is almost entirely with Toelke bows(incidentally his 62" Whip does not stack at my 32" draw).

That said, here is the deal, any bowyer worth his salt can make a bow which will not stack at your draw length. (There are however, some designs which should not be pushed to a 32 inch draw)

A lot of good bowyers frequent this site and they will all tell you that they are happy to work with you and make a bow which makes YOU happy. Craftsmen make their living by excelling in customer service and the sponsors here are top notch.

All of which to say, my advice is to pick five or six bowyers who are sponsors on here and give them all  a phone call. The bowyers know their trade and are happy to help you out. Get expert advice first and you won't suffer later.