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Title: Zwickey broad head?
Post by: dhermon85 on January 09, 2013, 12:05:00 AM
Does anyone use Zwickey 2 blade 175gn? Likes? Dislikes?
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Post by: S.C. Hunter on January 09, 2013, 12:12:00 AM
I have a friend who has used the Zwickey 2 blade head for over 30 years now. He loves those heads. I tried them and like them also. He just touches them up with a file and has never had a issue with it being sharp enough. He has two on his wall one stuck in a section of spine half way through and one stuck in a shoulder joint almost completely buried.
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Post by: chanumpa on January 09, 2013, 03:26:00 AM
All of the Zwicks are great broadheads.Extremely tough lethal broadheads.Always have been.
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Post by: Terry Green on January 09, 2013, 06:28:00 AM
They have been around for a LONG time.....for a reason.

And, they are built better now than then.

After the success I've had with them for 30 years, I have nothing to dislike.
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Post by: sabas silva on January 09, 2013, 07:00:00 AM
I use them and really like them
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Post by: ddauler on January 09, 2013, 07:51:00 AM
What Terry said.
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Post by: Terry Green on January 09, 2013, 07:59:00 AM
Maybe someone here can recall the story better than me...but some guy back in the 60s or 70a shot at a polar bear and didn't realize that another one had walked up beside it on the other side....and his Z Delta killed them both.

Anyone here remember who it was?
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Post by: JamesKerr on January 09, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
I will agree with Terry they are a great head. I have never had any problems with them at all. When a head has been around as long as zwickeys you know it's got to be good.
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Post by: jiane on January 09, 2013, 09:16:00 AM
We will be having Jack Zwickey speak at the Wisconsin Traditional Archers annual banquet in February.  Jack started working with his father, Cliff, in 1940 when Jack was 12 years old.  So the Zwickeys have been in broadheads for a long time.  I'm looking forward to hearing this one.

If I get the chance, I'll see if I can ask Jack about the polar bear story.
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Post by: Terry Green on January 09, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
Wish that could be filmed...would love to see Jack Speak....but no way I could make it there...kids got more going on in Feb than I do!!!
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Post by: jiane on January 09, 2013, 09:31:00 AM
I was thinking of filming.  I will ask our speaker coordinator if there is any problem with filming.  I don't think there will be.  

I'm just dragging my wife and kids with me.
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Post by: Keefer on January 09, 2013, 09:49:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
Maybe someone here can recall the story better than me...but some guy back in the 60s or 70a shot at a polar bear and didn't realize that another one had walked up beside it on the other side....and his Z Delta killed them both.

Anyone here remember who it was?
Answer to that trivia question would be "Harry Copeland"...  :archer:
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Post by: Keefer on January 09, 2013, 09:54:00 AM
And it was a 4 edge Delta Terry....Now another guy took four goats with one shot! Now what do I win if I'm right? A 6 pack of Delta's would be just fine...       :rolleyes:      :jumper:
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Post by: TRAP on January 09, 2013, 10:12:00 AM
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa277/DUCK_TRAP/8BDDF477-FA21-491B-BF1C-7920601B577E-11829-00000B52973CD3E4.jpg)

Some things never change...Much...and it's for a reason. When you get it right the first time it doesn't leave much room for improvement.  

Zwickey broadheads are probably responsible for more dead animals than any other broadhead made.

The top broadhead in the pic is a 1939 Barbed Zwickey and the bottom broadhead a 2012 Barbed "Cliff" Zwickey. I believe thats 73 years of "getting it done". There are subtle differences in the two heads, but still very much the same.

Trap
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Post by: Terry Green on January 09, 2013, 10:27:00 AM
Thanks Keefer....now just WHO killed the 4 goats with one shot???
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Post by: bkyrdshooter on January 09, 2013, 12:27:00 PM
Hey Trap,  

I too use the Cliff Zwicky. Real glad to see that style come back. I bought 2 packs form Jack Zwickey himself last year at Ohio's Deer and Turkey show. Surprised he was there I didn't expect to see or talk to him. You can tell he loves what he does.
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Post by: Keefer on January 09, 2013, 02:29:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
Thanks Keefer....now just WHO killed the 4 goats with one shot???
All I know is they were Catilina Goats and "ONE verygood shooter"...Do I still win the Zwicky 6 pack? I do know it was a bowhunter does that count?   :D      :dunno:
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Post by: Ibow on January 09, 2013, 02:37:00 PM
Been using the Zwickey 2-blade 135 gr Delta for years and years.

Back in the 80's I wrote an article for Doug Walker's magazine re a hunt I'd been on using those Zwickeys and not long after it hit the newsstand, I got a couple of packs of those Zwickeys and a very nice letter in the mail from Jack Zwickey.

I've probably got a couple of those broadheads left and I don't even recall the name of Doug Walker's magazine but the letter meant more to me than anything and I've got it framed and hanging up.

His broadheads are the absolute best and so is he. I still use them.
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Post by: Keefer on January 09, 2013, 05:23:00 PM
I took this little 7 point this past fall with the Zwicky "Cliff" 175 grain head...
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu55/KEITH63/101_7397.jpg)
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Post by: Terry Lightle on January 09, 2013, 07:12:00 PM
Taking 2 blade Deltas moose hunting in the fall.Asked the guide about my setup and he told me Zwickey Deltas were his first choice.
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Post by: BRIARS on January 09, 2013, 07:37:00 PM
Took my first bow kill in 84 or so using a Eskimo. I would like to try the cliffs but not sure it would be legal in OK. Don't think that law has ever been changed here, but in 40 years of hunting I have never had my broadheads checked.
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Post by: BRIARS on January 09, 2013, 07:45:00 PM
I just checked the OK regs, no mention anymore of "barbed" heads so I may get some of those cliffs in the heaviest grain.
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Post by: thumper-tx on January 09, 2013, 07:50:00 PM
A couple years back I took a few of them to a friend in the metal lab at work to hardness test.
A couple were over 30 yr old, a couple 12-15yr old and a couple 2-3 yr old. They all tested out  at 48-49 on hardness. Pretty impressive quality controll controll over three decades.
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Post by: on January 09, 2013, 07:50:00 PM
The problem with all of the Zwickey broadheads is if one wants a slightly better blood trail pick the four blade models,(we have never had a problem with blood trails with the two blades), if one has enough power one can pick the Delta,(a 40 hill longbow will put a Delta staight through an Iowa buck), or if one likes having arrows that can be sharpened easily, the problem is they all work.  The only reason not to use a Zwickey is if you just want to change things up a bit or if you want something heavier than a Delta on a wood shaft. We went away from them just to change things up, but bit by bit they are once again becoming the families most used broadhead.  What are we going to do if we are not constantly experimenting with broadheads? Go hunting I guess.
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Post by: SuperK on January 09, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
Shot my last deer this season with a Delta 2-blade.  Didn't make a great hit (due to the deer ducking and spinning on the shot) but had a heavy blood trail and a very dead deer at the end of it.  They fly great, sharpen easy and do the job.  They're a classic for a reason.
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Post by: RainyDayBows on January 09, 2013, 09:40:00 PM
I use a 2 blade delta it's a great head and I don't see any reason to change.
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Post by: dhermon85 on January 10, 2013, 08:51:00 PM
Thanks for everyone's input, I think I made a good choice.
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Post by: Nate Steen . on January 10, 2013, 09:33:00 PM
If you want to make them a little heavier...do like me...drop a bullet nose lead fishing weight into the ferrule, cut the arrow ferrule a little shorter and bingo...a 165-175 grain eskimo
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Post by: chanumpa on January 11, 2013, 02:50:00 AM
Hey now were talking.Thats a good way to do it Sunset. I once shot a big mulie right in the brain with aDelta 4 Blade.Dropped him in his tracks.Was so excited I shot him in the lungs the second time,problem was it was with my judo.Fortunately,he wasnt getting up.Arrow penetrated through the skull between the earand his antler into the brain cavity and it was over.Like a dummy ,when I sawed it open,I should have kept it in tact for memory sake.The other one is that it was suppose to be a lung shot.No matters,hes hanging out in the shop.I guess Id rather be lucky than good still.Cant beat a Zwicky!
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Post by: Timberking on January 11, 2013, 09:01:00 AM
I just got a pack of six for Christmas. I've never taken a big game animal with a trad bow but I hope to this fall. I'll be using the 135 grain Zwickys. They just look "bad ass" too! Does anyone on here sharpen them with the Tru angle file/hone system?
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Post by: ddauler on January 11, 2013, 10:05:00 AM
Shot my first deer with a bow with a zwickey delta I hit big doe in spine I still have the section of backbone with head stuck in it.
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Post by: Terry Green on January 11, 2013, 10:23:00 AM
I gotcha Keefer....that's cool....and a TRUE testament to the WIDE DOUBLE BEVEL broadhead.

I'd be willing to bet that, even with a performance feat such as that from the head,  that the guy that did that don't even shoot them anymore.        :rolleyes:            :rolleyes:            :rolleyes:    

OK....if I'm right....do I win a Pack?        :D      

About this free pack you keep asking about....if you want one....I'll send ya one....just email me your address....no kidding...just email me.

T
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Post by: Ray Lyon on January 11, 2013, 10:38:00 AM
I killed a lot of critters with 2 blade Zwickey Delta's.  Great heads for sure.
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Post by: frassettor on January 11, 2013, 10:41:00 AM
I have shot my animals using Grizzlys, but I will tell you this. I carried the Deltas in my quiver this year and I did a follow up shot on a buck this past season and was impressed not only with the penetration but the blood it had left behind. I realize I have "limited" experience with them In The field, so take it as you may. I plan on using the Zwickys  exclusively this year based on what I saw on that buck I had shot with one. They do fly fantastic as well    :thumbsup:
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Post by: FAV 52 on January 11, 2013, 09:12:00 PM
Zwickey Delta all the time ; is there anything else!
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Post by: Bullfrog 1 on January 11, 2013, 10:37:00 PM
I may have to try them again. I tried them back in the day but after a few split on me I shyd away from them.   Bill
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Post by: Terry Green on January 11, 2013, 10:53:00 PM
Bill....they've been brazened for years....same place magnus got there's done..

Better than ever.
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Post by: anchorman on January 11, 2013, 10:59:00 PM
Not wanting to steal this thread. Do you guys have much faith in the 4 blade eskimo on hogs or anything else as far as that goes?
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Post by: Wild Bill MCP 808 on January 12, 2013, 12:28:00 PM
Great head used them for years

Bill
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Post by: kibok&ko on January 19, 2013, 09:30:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
They have been around for a LONG time.....for a reason.

And, they are built better now than then.

After the success I've had with them for 30 years, I have nothing to dislike.
:clapper:
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Post by: JoeM on January 19, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
Eskimo
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/Joe-Mart/P1050958.jpg)
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/Joe-Mart/P1050954.jpg)
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Post by: wooddamon1 on January 19, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
Great price, fairly easy to sharpen, fly awesome, what more could you want? I've tried a few different heads and always come back to Zwickeys. Wish I would've been smart enough to carry a camera back when I started shooting 'em. Anyhoo, here's a porky-pine I ran across scouting for deer...

(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN2945-1.jpg)


(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN2949.jpg)

125gr 2-blade on an old cedar arrow, almost straight up shot, arrow sailed right through length-wise and landed about 50 yards away. I know, it's a small animal, but these heads always perform great for me.
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Post by: jiane on February 18, 2013, 10:57:00 AM
Listened to Jack Zwickey talk this past Saturday at the Wisconsin Traditional Archers banquet about the history of Zwickey broadheads.  Jack is quite the character and does not mind stating his opinion.
It was a nice presentation and is a great story of a father and a son who just loved shooting and wanted to create something better for archers.  The history of the Judo head was interesting as well.  I'll post some still photos in the next day or two.
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Post by: Bernie in NS on February 18, 2013, 12:35:00 PM
Zwickey eskimo. Fly great and sharpen easy.
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Post by: ymountainman on February 18, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
I love the delta's too. But i started shooting heavy woooden arrows and they are to light. I wish they made a 200gr head.
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Post by: David Mitchell on February 18, 2013, 02:02:00 PM
ymountainman, did you see this post by Nate?


QuoteOriginally posted by sunset hill:
If you want to make them a little heavier...do like me...drop a bullet nose lead fishing weight into the ferrule, cut the arrow ferrule a little shorter and bingo...a 165-175 grain eskimo
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Post by: Nate Steen . on February 18, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
I use 1/16 oz. Bullet point fishing weights...lead.  used full size they make the head  about 185-190 gr.  I snip off a little lead...tamp them into the ferrule with a piece of tapered shaft...and cut back my arrow taper until they fit.  You can also heat up the head ferrule to melt the lead further into the head but run the risk of ruining the temper of the steel.  With this method I have 165 gr Eskimo 2 bl 4 bl and No Mercy 165's......great system. And easily adjustable.