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Title: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: jebeckjr on January 08, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
Hi gang!

I am going to make a dedicated effort to at least get an opportunity at a spring turkey this year.  I am not an experienced turkey hunter, so I am piecing it all together.  I know an area at our camp which consistently produces turkeys based on trail camera footage.  I know a lot of people hunt from ground blinds (natural and man-made).  I haven't seen  / read of anyone hunting from tree stands.  Are ground blinds just that much more effective for turkeys, or are tree stands also a viable option?  It seems ground blinds give a solid shot angle.  What kind of shot placement do people use coming out of a tree stand (or maybe, that's why you don't read too much about it - there is no good shot angle?).

Just curious at what the experienced turkey hunters on board recommend.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: bornagainbowhunter on January 08, 2013, 01:53:00 PM
The reason you don't read much about turkey hunting from a stand is that when you think about moving to draw your bow, the turks will spot you.  The popup blinds completely fool turkeys.  They will actually walk up and stick their head in one. I never hunt popups, but one of my hunting buddys kills 2 every year and has stories of turks poking their head inside his blind.  

I would opt for the blind over the stand.  Just me opnion here...

God Bless,
Nathan
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: Roddo on January 08, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
Since your post indicates you are from PA you might want to go to your PA hunting and trapping digest, page 35 Turkey season and the use of blinds. Manufactured blinds are legal. Blinds made by piling rocks, logs, branches ,ect are unlawful.
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: Altiman94 on January 08, 2013, 02:30:00 PM
Hunting from treestands for turkey is extremely difficult.  They will catch you during your draw and tend to 'look up' more so than a deer will.

I would look into the hub blinds out today, those should do what you need to conceal your draw.
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: jebeckjr on January 08, 2013, 03:44:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Roddo:
Since your post indicates you are from PA you might want to go to your PA hunting and trapping digest, page 35 Turkey season and the use of blinds. Manufactured blinds are legal. Blinds made by piling rocks, logs, branches ,ect are unlawful.
That's a really good point.  I do plan on hunting in PA, but also Jersey and the Catskill region of NY.  It is real important to understand the local rules of the area, especially since they differ (significantly in some areas) between states (and sometimes localities).

For ground blinds, are there specific recommendations for trad archers as to a brand / model?  I see some of them have very low roof - some in the 64" area, which could get interesting even with a 60" bow.  What are people commonly using to sit on inside the blind?
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: monsterbuck on January 08, 2013, 03:52:00 PM
Try getting as tall of a blind as you can. I just missed a doe last night, by hitting the top of the blind, and I'm shooting a 56" longbow. Barronett makes some tall blinds, and if you can find one, the Double Bull Recurve model is tall. As for sitting in a blind, find something that is comfortable for you, because you may be in for a long day of hunting. I know I have sat for long periods of time waiting on them. I like my Magnus Rack Pack, which doubles as a blind carrier. And just last night I used my Huntmore 360, very comfortable. Hope this helps.  God bless.
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: stagetek on January 08, 2013, 04:17:00 PM
I don't know of anyone who hunts turkeys out of a treestand, but, I've found hunting for them out of a pop-up ground blind is fun, and productive.
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: So-Mo Archer on January 08, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
Stand hunting for turkey would be tough, as they tend to look up frequently for escape routes as they move about. Blinds are much better suited to the task, and give you the best angle for a shot. Just be sure to test the blind in the yard to see how your bow will react, maneuver, etc. That way there are fewer surprises in the woods. Good luck!
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: southernarcher on January 09, 2013, 05:45:00 AM
Have any of you guys tried hunting spring turkeys out of a tree?
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: Jayrod on January 09, 2013, 06:02:00 AM
Unless you are brushed in..in the tree its pretty much impossible with all there sharp eyes you can't draw I have yet to score on one..but got three long beards in the row outta my blind but ya need to set it up early and.let them.get used to it..at least here in Pa...hope this helps
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: jebeckjr on January 09, 2013, 10:16:00 AM
Has anyone tried an Ameristep Harvester blind with any 60" bow?  They don't seem to make the Double Bull Recurve blind any longer, and no one seems to have them in stock.  Looking for other options that have the required height.
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: Vesty on January 09, 2013, 10:48:00 AM
I use the Ameristep Penthouse. I believe it is the tallest you can get. I shoot a 66" longbow from it.
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: jebeckjr on January 09, 2013, 11:26:00 AM
Thanks Vesty.  Does that "shoot through mesh" really work?  Conceptually, I would think it would really throw off the arrow, but I've never tried it or even seen it up close.
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: RC on January 09, 2013, 02:14:00 PM
I use the ameristep brickhouse. I have killed Turkeys from it with a 66" hill bow. I shoot through the mesh. I have never got a Turkey to come in without the mesh they seemed spooked and hang out at a distance.RC
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: Bowwild on January 09, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
I didn't kill my first turkey's with archery tackle until I went to a pop-up blind. Apparently I move a bit more than I thought I did. My sightings and shot opportunities increased dramatically.

I aim:
-Broadside -- Above the thigh.
-Back - Up vent if in strut, middle of back other wise
- Front - Where beard joins the body
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: Vesty on January 10, 2013, 01:53:00 PM
The shoot through mesh doesn't seem to impede arrow flight at all. I do practice shooting through it, although, because it can distort your depth of field until you get used to it.
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: TomBow on January 10, 2013, 03:53:00 PM
I purchased a Baronette Big Jim 275 blind last year specifically for turkeys.  The blind is 80" tall inside so it has plenty of upper limb tip room.  I went through every blind spec I could find and went inside every blind I could to gauge window height.  As with every commercial hub-style pop-up, window height seems a bit high so that is an important consideration.  I ended up stringing a bungee cord from the outside of the blind, through the window and hooked it to the rods inside the blind in order to pull the bottom of the window down.  Before I figured that out, I put my first practice shot from the blind through the edge of the folded down window fabric.  With the bungees, I am able to have enough clearance.  I do not shoot through the mesh, just open the inside window fabric and adjust the mesh to allow for small shooting holes.  Turkeys will flat ignore a blind, even if it's in the middle of a field.  I hunted once with another guy, he killed a bird and we layed it RIGHT NEXT to the blind on the outside.  Two Jakes came in later, saw the bird and immediately ran over and stood on top of it mere inches from the blind window.  We were mouth yelping and mouth gobbling and they were gobbling  back.  Lemme tell ya, gobbles are a lot louder when you are 1 foot from the gobbling bird!  I have tape-video to prove it, too!  Yes, those were jakes but I have not had a turkey spook just at the sight of the blind.
Turkeys spook at movement so the blind blocks their eyes from movement.  Tip:  Get a blind that is black on the inside, then wear black while you are in the blind so the birds won't see you, just be careful to close the windows on the back side or the birds will catch your silhouette.  Some folks hunt them from natural ground blinds but I don't have the sit-still-itude for that!  And pop-ups are a lot more portable and take seconds to put up so you can run-and-BOW 'em. Turkeys  are preyed upon by birds from above and they have 270 degree vision so I can't imagine you'd be able to get a shot off from a treestand, unless you are one lucky dog.  Inside a ground blind you can get away with alot of movement.

Best of Luck, Spring turkeys are a ball!

TomBow
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: wapiti792 on January 10, 2013, 04:08:00 PM
I do the blind thing and the ghillie thing...I killed a great Tom last year out of a blind. It has its pluses and minuses. The biggest thing is the draw...if you can get by with the draw. I now own the Barronett Big Mike. It is a new one with vertical windows. Last year I shot my 60 inch bow out of a very tight Predator blind.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/April11020.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/April11021.jpg)

I also trimmed out a hole in some honeysuckle and killed a bird in my Ghilli a week later. That was the most fun I have had turkey hunting in a VERY long time. It can be done either way...but treestands are usually a no-go. You MIGHT get a shot at a bird but since half the things that eat them come from above, they will be very wary. Remember...it's the draw that gets you  :)

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/kentuckybird006.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/kentuckybird012.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: trubltrubl on January 10, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
hunted turkys last spring using a ghillie suit and with the help of Jim Dahlberg and Lon and Craig . They had scouted extensively. I scored on a gobbler as well as another Canadian friend who took his from a ground blind....they both worked great(blind and suit)...of course decoys were involved and these guys calling was awesome and they brought in the turkeys to nice bowhunting range several times.....
I am new to it but scouting would be a very high priority along with the above equipment
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: Stump73 on January 10, 2013, 05:12:00 PM
Does anyone know why it's illegal to put natural ground blinds in Pa?
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on January 10, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
I've hunted turkeys by blind and by typical ground hunting techniques. The blind is the way to go, especially with archery gear. The bind can be used in open strut areas, which would be virtually impossible to hunt without a blind. Turkeys don't seem to shy away from the blinds even when placed in open fields. The picture I attached was a gobbler I killed with the aid of a blind.

(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv76/longbowfanatic1234/img1261083151328.jpg)
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: Cedar&Flint on January 11, 2013, 01:17:00 AM
This was my first year hunting from a Double Bull ground blind and I really enjoyed it. Took a book, drinks,snacks, and stayed in all day. The only thing I need to improve the quality of the experience would be a better chair. Ten hours of sitting in a cheap chair is tough!

Unlike most of ya'll I had several turkeys, deer and a hog shy away immediately upon seeing the blind. I took a lot of care to set the blind inside a group of small trees which broke up the blind's outline on the sides and top. I only opened the front window and used the netting. I also brushed in the area in front of the blind.

I did get a shot at a large tom that spooked upon seeing the blind. I missed him at about 15 yards as he trotted away. I did shoot a hen standing broadside but unfortunately the shot went low, hit only breast and I was unable to find her.

My experience was that most game spooked upon seeing the blind, especially the deer and hog. In anticipation of the spring season I have switched from grizzlies to tree sharks, If anyone could tell what to do in order to have less problems with the animals spooking immediately upon seeing the blind I would really appreciate the advice. I also know that I couldn't be seen because after a few days two does became accustomed to the blind and I would deliberately try to spook them with movement with no reaction on  their part.
Title: Re: Turkey hunting - ground blinds or ...
Post by: huskyarcher on January 11, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
I really like pop ups, tree stands are more like peeing into a fan than hunting. But do make sure you get one large enough for your bow, if not it can be really aggrevating.