I've been shooting 1916 aluminums out of my 50# hoyt recurve. I'd like to get into some carbons but want to see them heavy (around 600 gr). What's the best way to get them there?
I'm thinking a 400 or 500 shaft and maybe weight tubes? Or, is it best to go with inserts and heavy broad heads?
Gt 3555 Witt 3555 with 200gr. About 550 total
I add 100 grain inserts and aluminum shaft collars.
Front load them with brass inserts and/or heavy broadheads.
That's with 50 gr brass as well
The thing I have loved about Goldtip is that they offer brass screw in weights, just add em till they fly. I can rock out a 700 gr. arrow easy.
600gr is pretty easy. Especially with an Easton Axis or CX Heritage with a combo of point and brass weight. I can make up to a 150 grain insert for the axis arrows and just use 100gr steel force phatheads. Gives me a whopping 250gr up front on a full length Axis 340, putting me over 600gr. If you go with an aluminum/carbon shaft like the Easton FMJ it is even easier. I shoot the FMJ's outa my higher poundage stuff and I absolutely love them. The FMJ Dangerous games are 15 gpi or so, they are 300 spine but if you're pulling enough weight for it they are strong as hell and really pack a punch.
Brass inserts and alum. footings will get you there. No need for wt.tubes. I would try some GT 35/55's. Tough arrows when footed front and back.
byron ferguson teamed up with gold tip to produce a line of heavy carbon hunting arrows, 3rivers sells them, they should get you well into the ballpark your wanting to achieve
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Gold+Tip+Byron+Ferguson+Heavy+Hunter+Carbon+Shafts_i6700X_variablekit.html
Many variables and many ways to get there.
May consider:
Victory V-Force HV V6 350...6.7 gpi
Insert - 100 gn
Point - 300 gn
Total wt - ~610
Ultra-EFOC- ~31%
Shaft/Fletching and insert expense - ~ $7.25/arrow
When carbons first came out I did everything I could for a couple of years to get the weight up. Long story short...I found that by getting the front end heavy I wound up with an arrow that was at least 10 gpi and the increased FOC was decidedly a factor in better penetration and short blood trails.
How bout the Byron Ferguson Heavy Hunters.A bit pricey yes,but Byron wouldnt steer you wrong.I shoot 55/75 Trad blems out of 2 different 50#@28 recurves.I use 100 gr.inserts and shoot big broadheads and am happy with their flight/lethality.Im usually right at about a 570gr.arrow.I can shoot the same arrow out of 2 more of my bows that are 57 + 60 #s and get great flight/hard hit.
I would definitely recommend putting as much of the added weight on the front end as you can. To me that is one of the MAIN advantages of carbon arrows. I wouldn't mess around with weight tubes when you can get heavy brass inserts, heavy steel BH adaptors and heavy BHs.
From my limited personal experience with my low poundage bows and heavy arrows, the FOC makes a huge difference on arrow flight and penetration. I go for the lightest carbon shafts I can get and put the weight on the business end.
Get the lightest weight shaft GPI you can get and the heaviest point and insert, 300+.
Front loaded is the best way. If you want super heavy get the lightest spine you can find, fill with appropriate sized hardwood dowell, than all the weight you can get up front to weaken it. .243 100 gr bullets im told are a perfect fit for gold tips, and lots cheaper than brass inserts.
I would go with the arrow dynamics trad light series shafts with 100 grain inserts and 150 grain points
I would go with the arrow dynamics trad light series shafts with 100 grain inserts and 150 grain points