How do the two compare? I had a Silvertip and I hate that I sold it! Smoothest bow I have ever owned! Does the TT match up?
Not sure on the silver tip, but I have never seen a bad review on the talltines, I have a plain Jane tines and love it.
Doug, are you thinking of buying Mike's?
I've owned both...I preferred the Schafer, but the TT shot well also. The TT grip is a little different, feels good after you shoot it some, but takes a little time to grow on you.
I haven't handled any of the newer TT's but pics of the newer ones look nice. Schafer's are a little more polished... IMO..... workmanship on the Schafer's takes a back seat to none...!
The Silvertip gets my vote!!
owned two, great bows but I sold them,just did not fit me well. I have 3 silvertips and one on order if that tells you anything.
I too have had ( and still have one ) both in longbow form. I loved them both but they are different beasts with different stengths and weaknesses. As long as you know what you are after you can't go wrong with either.
Rusty, not sure of what I plan to do. Right now I'm in the research phase of this process.
I sold my Schafer... Probably the prettiest bow I've ever owned. Smooth drawing, quiet, accurate and slow. Just couldn't use it consistently with heavy arrows at 30+ yards. Don't know about a TT.... Sticking with my Black Widow, Palmer, Vintage Works, Border and ACS
As said above, they are different, and unfortunately that means different for each individual as well.
I own/ have owned both. I am partial to the Silvertip because the Windauers are friends.I've also been shooting them since Paul was making them in the late 80's. I love big risered bows.
I've taken bison,deer,elk,a boar, black bears,caribou, to pheasant and grouse with a Tip.
But I also love the Tall Tines and although I don't know him personally, I hear Brian is a great guy. I've only had the chance to deer hunt with it, but it will surely take plenty of game in my future.
So you can do what I did,
get both. Which to get first? Good luck buddy! Tough decision, two of the best bows made!
My search for the ultimate take down longbow took me a few years, but I ended up with a custom crafted Tall Tines. I wouldn't trade this bow for nothing. Accurate, excellent speed, dead in the hand upon release and quiet. Not to mention, I had some pretty gkod demands on what I was wanting, and he not lnly met my demands, Brian exceeded them. Plus it is the best looking piece of Macassar Ebony I ever saw.
Can't help you with the tips, but I purchased a used "plain jane" TT recurve....I might buy other bows in the future, but they will fancier TT!!! Bow fits ME perfectly, dead in the hand, fast enough to mask some of my yardage estimation errors, quiet, repeatable grip, and beautiful. Cant ask for much more. Good luck on your search with whichever you choose, if possibly try out both and see which one fits YOU better :archer:
My search for the ultimate take down longbow took me a few years, but I ended up with a custom crafted Tall Tines. I wouldn't trade this bow for nothing. Accurate, excellent speed, dead in the hand upon release and quiet. Not to mention, I had some pretty good demands on what I was wanting, and he not only met my demands, Brian exceeded them. Plus it is the best looking piece of Macassar Ebony I ever saw.
I have had and like both. If you can shoot both and decide which grip is for you, to me the performance is the same. IMO Brian's finish is a little better.
I don't like these TT vs ST threads. Both are tremendous bows built by fine craftsmen who you can trust and are better hunters than most of us could dream to be. I have had many a Sivertip, but found the TallTines to be better for me in grip and speed. Get your hands on both and decide for yourself, that is the only thing constructive thing that can possibly come out of this thread.
I have heard that they are simular I own a silvertip an see no reason to buy any other bow as far as recurves go.there are many other recurves out there that are great an I have owned alot of them.but the silvertip is simply perfect in all aspects.
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I don't like these TT vs ST threads. Both are tremendous bows built by fine craftsmen who you can trust and are better hunters than most of us could dream to be. I have had many a Sivertip, but found the TallTines to be better for me in grip and speed. Get your hands on both and decide for yourself, that is the only thing constructive thing that can possibly come out of this thread.
Well said Steve...
Since the early eighties I have owned, and still own multiple "Tips." A couple of years ago I started adding a few "Tines" to the stable. As do other bowyer's, both Dave and Brian make an outstanding, high quality bow. Both bows, though similar in design, are uniquely different with their own inherent features, which not only makes them a pleasure to shoot, but which also makes them an awesome hunting tool.
There have been many discussions with folks trying to compare a Tall Tines to a Silvertip. . . that's a complement to both bowyers'. Having worked with both Dave and Brian, both are extremely knowledgeable of their craft, produce a top-quality product and they will go the extra mile to accommodate their customers.
Get your hands on as many different bows as you can and decide which one will "fit" YOU.
I also agree with Steve and Don,
I'll share my experience with both.
I got caught up collecting and hunting with vintage Bear recurves for several years and at the beginning of the summer I didn't even own a modern recurve.
In the past I shot many of the top name bows, Bighorn, Black Widow, Brackenbury, Robertsons, Predator, etc. (all great bows)
I had always wanted to try a Schafer Silvertip so I found one, bought it, shot it and instantly fell in love with the bow. It could have easily been the last recurve I ever owned, but I read some of these threads comparing Tall Tines to Schafers and just had to try a Tall Tines out as well. I found a Tall Tines in the classifieds that was "almost" what I wanted as far as specs go. I agreed to buy it and the next day another Tall Tines appeared in the classifieds with the exact specs I wanted. You guessed it, I bought it also.
So now I'm sitting here with 1 Silvertip and 2 Tall Tines with very similar specs and I love all three. All three are beautiful works of art, all three are solid hunting bows, All three are different as night and day.
Lol, I fully intended to sell 2 of these bows and keep my favorite but I'm not selling any of them. In fact, I want more of both.
If you've narrowed your bow purchase down to these two bows, you can't go wrong in my opinion.
My hat is off to both Schafers and Tall Tines. Awesome bows!!!!
Trap
I have both and I love both,but like I love most of my customs.
Most bowyers are very talented and I don't see any Holy Grail bow but lot of excellent hunting tool. As far as hunting weapons I can't find a so big difference of performances at real hunting distances and I can personally switch from one to another in just few arrows. Maybe because I can shoot 6 different bows and hundreds of arrows a day sometimes.
Steve & Felix can speak for me. The only thing I've ever learned from a 'bow v bow' thread is that your best bow isn't found in an opinion. At the upper level of custom bows, they are ALL outstanding weapons built by highly skilled craftsmen.
You might not like either of the 2 named bows in your hands, but handling and using them is the only way to know. Finally: Some of these upper-tier customs have qualities that are hard to appreciate until you've owned a number of lesser bows. Felix can attest that the finest wines (and bows) are often something which take much time to create......and appreciate!
Have,nt shot a Tall Tines, but is on my to do list. Do have 2 S-tips, and a 1pc LB on order. I love the Tips, awesome.
Excuse me, but this is not a battle of bows question. Just getting feedback on two awesome line of recurves.The fact that the man, Barry Wensel, has shot both tells me they are great. I'm like anybody who likes bows, so I ask questions for feedback. And yea, the best feedback is to shoot both. But this an opportunity to talk with trad gang folks to see what they think about the two bows. Dave and Beth are great folks to deal with and Ive communicated with Brian and he is great to. The post did t have Vs in its tittle. Just a discussion about two great bows. Which part of the reason we come to Trad Gang, to talkk trad archery and bowhunting.
QuoteOriginally posted by Kevin Dill:
Steve & Felix can speak for me. The only thing I've ever learned from a 'bow v bow' thread is that your best bow isn't found in an opinion. At the upper level of custom bows, they are ALL outstanding weapons built by highly skilled craftsmen.
You might not like either of the 2 named bows in your hands, but handling and using them is the only way to know. Finally: Some of these upper-tier customs have qualities that are hard to appreciate until you've owned a number of lesser bows. Felix can attest that the finest wines (and bows) are often something which take much time to create......and appreciate!
Kevin,you speak like a printed book,LOL
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Kevin,you speak like a printed book,LOL
Felix....it's because I have such fine and smart friends!
:thumbsup:
Kevin,you know that your treasure in wine bottles is increasing,but you have to flight here.
I have owned both. Both great recurves. I preferred the grip on the Schafer. Both a tad too bulky for my liking but performance wise they are both top notch bows.
Two great bows and two great bowyers.
I have a little problem with these threads of one bow vs another. We should consider how the bowyers who are human beings building their dreams and doing the best they can feel about it. I'm sure most of them would say it doesn't bother them a bit. I'm also sure it does.
God bless you all and Happy New Years, Steve
I have one of each at present and have had others by both bowyers in the past..that being said, My current TT is a basic Charcoal Dymondwood riser and Black glass w/actionwood cores, 62" and 56#28. ( but "enhanced a bit with autographs from Gene, Barry, and Mike Mitten )
The S-Tip is 60" and also 56#@28 with all of Daves Bells and whistles including the FF option.
Both bows rival my 56" 56# Qwyk Styk as I have to make a choice before I head out the door to shoot in the evening..
I love the checkerd grip on the Tip as it never varies..
Some seem to prefer Daves grip when compared to a TT in some of comparisons I have read in the past.
However, I have found "I shoot" a bit higher scores while shooting indoors during the winter leagues with my TT.. That grip seems to work very well in my case. It is not only very comfortable, very repeatable, and possibly a bit "higher" and I think the bow being 2" longer adds a bit to the smoothness of draw...
But, I could be satisified for a lifetime with any of the 3 I mentioned above if I had to just limit myself to 1 as performance is very close and quality are all nearly perfect no matter which you are handling...
Now if the Dr can fix me up to shoot a few years longer?? :banghead:
Otherwise you may see some of these and others of mine hitting the classifieds in the near future :rolleyes: as someone who can shoot them needs to be enjoying them.
Gene
I do have a Schafer, and I absolutly love it. It shoots a heavy arrow very well and its easy on the eyes. I never heard anything bad about a TT. I think either one would suit you just great. :thumbsup:
I've owned both. Both are top-quality bows. It boiled down to an aesthetic preference for me and I stuck with the Silvertip. It wasn't a fair comparison though because the Tip was tricked out and the TT was basic.
When I sold the TT it was the fastest sell I've ever made and I didn't lose any money which is also rare.
Bowwild,
Isn't nice to sell a bow the Wensel's shoot