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Title: Remote Wilderness
Post by: lpcjon2 on December 22, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
What state (excluding Alaska) or states has the most remote wilderness(untapped territory). The kind of wilderness you can go miles upon miles without seeing any modern civilization.

 And who has ever wanted to hunt it.
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: kill shot on December 22, 2012, 08:39:00 PM
The U.P. here in michigan has some remote areas.
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Post by: YORNOC on December 22, 2012, 08:39:00 PM
Well, I cant speak for the US, but I hunted northern Alberta and the Northwest Territories and its like the rest of the world doesnt exist.
Some areas of Northern Maine are pretty remote, but logging is forever creeping in.
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Post by: Jim Wright on December 22, 2012, 08:43:00 PM
The Absaroka/Beartooth in southern Montana is very high, very rugged and much of it very remote.
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Post by: Stickbow on December 22, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Idaho...Frank Church River of No Return
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Post by: Knawbone on December 22, 2012, 09:47:00 PM
I don't know,but lets go   :D
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Post by: Biathlonman on December 22, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
I went to the Bob Marshall (Montana) last September, a midwestern boys dream.
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Post by: Walt Francis on December 22, 2012, 10:02:00 PM
I think the Frank Church Wilderness in Idaho is the largest in the lower 48.  You can go for weeks in either the Bob  Marshall, Lee Metcalf, or Absaroka without seeing civilization.  I haven't hunted the Frank Church in over twenty years but did annually before moving to Montana; don't think it has changed much.  Haven't hunted the Bob yet but hunt the both the Lee Metcalf and Absaroka/Beartooth most years.  

My grandmother was born and raised in the middle of the Frank Church, before it was a wilderness.  My grandfather and her had a homestead there before it mysteriously burned shortly after they made it into a  wilderness.  

Sorry for the rant.  One item on my bucket list is to take  a pack string of mules back into the old homestead,  find grandpas mine,  find my uncles mine (just to see where they are), and then spend the fall hunting and fishing using the homestead as a base camp.
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: Daz on December 22, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
I seem to recall hearing that the Eagle's Cap Wilderness is a pretty honking big piece of real estate down there too.

Up here we are blessed with huge areas like the Sacred Headwaters and the Muskwa Kechika, just for starters.
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Post by: T Sunstone on December 22, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
Here you go.


Where is the largest area of contiguous wilderness?
In this context, contiguous means wilderness land that is unbroken by any exempted corridors. In Alaska, the Noatak and Gates of the Arctic Wildernesses (12,743,329 acres) make up the largest area of unbroken wilderness. In the lower 48 states, the largest area of unbroken wilderness is found in Idaho's Frank Church-River of No Return Wilderness (approximately 2,300,000 acres)
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Post by: limbow on December 22, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
Wow!!!
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Post by: Ray Hammond on December 22, 2012, 11:17:00 PM
Walt that sounds like a trip of a lifetime!!
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Post by: don_h on December 22, 2012, 11:20:00 PM
If alaska is out, then eagle cap wilderness in eastern oregon would be a good one. Also close to john day wilderness and some easy to disapear in areas out of granite oregon.
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: Snome on December 22, 2012, 11:25:00 PM
Hey there, first post here. Hi from Ohio!

I haven't done anything archery related in a long time...looking to get back into it. My primary hobby is shooting firearms, but I can't do that so easily in the city and it's getting expensive for ammunition (ESPECIALLY NOW!). Planning on picking up a nice longbow from the classifieds or from one of the makers I've see on here.

Anyways, so as as remote areas, I've explored a bit of Northwestern Montana and also Maine. NW Montana is by far the most remote place I've been, but Maine is pretty close. Walked out on a rocky beach one time and my girlfriend and I didn't realize how far we'd gone. The woods in Maine are really beautiful too, especially near the beaches.

Montana was everything I'd ever dreamed of for camping or for anything outdoors really.

Everything there is crazy gorgeous. Here's a picture I took backpacking out there last summer. For an example of how expansive it is out there - I live in Ohio, and my city has over twice the amount of people living in it as the whole state of MT has! This picture was taken after hiking 8 miles into the wilderness (going mostly up).

(I think I sized it correctly)

(http://i.imgur.com/bjy6ll.jpg)
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: D on December 22, 2012, 11:25:00 PM
I'm in lets go,  Just got my new hiking backpack today I'll start loading it up.
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Post by: TxAg on December 22, 2012, 11:25:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Walt Francis:
I think the Frank Church Wilderness in Idaho is the largest in the lower 48.  You can go for weeks in either the Bob  Marshall, Lee Metcalf, or Absaroka without seeing civilization.  I haven't hunted the Frank Church in over twenty years but did annually before moving to Montana; don't think it has changed much.  Haven't hunted the Bob yet but hunt the both the Lee Metcalf and Absaroka/Beartooth most years.  

My grandmother was born and raised in the middle of the Frank Church, before it was a wilderness.  My grandfather and her had a homestead there before it mysteriously burned shortly after they made it into a  wilderness.  

Sorry for the rant.  One item on my bucket list is to take  a pack string of mules back into the old homestead,  find grandpas mine,  find my uncles mine (just to see where they are), and then spend the fall hunting and fishing using the homestead as a base camp.
I'm young and healthy. When do we leave?
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Post by: bearsfeet on December 22, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
Eagle caps gets a lot of hunting preasure and you run into or see a lot of people while hunting that area... I have done it a few times but got tired of all the people so now hunt other areas here in OR.

I would love to check out the Bob marshal wilderness!
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Post by: gregg dudley on December 22, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
That sounds amazing, Walt.
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Post by: slim_grim on December 22, 2012, 11:37:00 PM
+1 for Maine. Never been on the ground other than Bangor but everytime I flew over was a reawakening of what I love about America. Truly beautiful country seemingly untouched.
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: ozy clint on December 23, 2012, 05:39:00 AM
arnhemland in the northern territory here in australia. it's a very wild place.

also the southern alps in new zealand.

i just love the word wilderness!
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: Adirondackman on December 23, 2012, 06:24:00 AM
Here is a list.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_wilderness_areas_in_the_United_States

I would love to hunt most of them.
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: centaur on December 23, 2012, 07:47:00 AM
My close by wilderness is the Cloud Peak. I wouldn't call it especially remote, but it is really rugged and can keep your heartrate up.
The Washakie Wilderness in NW Wyoming is one of my favorite places. The Absaroka Mts. are still fairly wild and wooly.
I love the Ferris Mts in central Wyoming; steep, rugged, windy as hell, but beautiful.
But it all pales in comparison to the Alaska Range near Denali. That will spoil you for the lower 48.
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Post by: FarmerMarley on December 23, 2012, 12:41:00 PM
Let's go.   :campfire:
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Post by: Mark Baker on December 23, 2012, 02:12:00 PM
Variety is the spice of life.  I think the Frank Church is "biggest", but every wilderness area has it's special appeal.  As one who has the Absaroka-Beartooth literally outside my backdoor...I love to check out other places, and even some smaller "haunts" and hidey-holes all over the country.  New places and new adventures...that's the fun of it.
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Post by: ozy clint on December 23, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
x2 mark
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Post by: Ibow on December 23, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
Would love to do Idaho someday. Northern Alberta is absolutely amazing.
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Post by: joe ashton on December 23, 2012, 04:54:00 PM
Colorado has lots of empty space.
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Post by: Phrogdrvr on December 23, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
I'll join you, just have to retire from the Marine Corps first.
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Post by: Roadkill on December 23, 2012, 06:13:00 PM
Nevada has remote aNd isolated areas.  I drive up to the sign and then hike into the remote areas.  Lots of lazy people on quads  outside of wilderness areas, not many once you are an hour into it
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: Dan Adair on December 23, 2012, 06:39:00 PM
Montana and Idaho are the two states that you want to look at.

Technically, California has the biggest wilderness in the lower 48, but Death Valley isn't anywhere I need to go.

Then you have the Frank Church in Idaho, and right North of there you have the Selway Bitterroot.

Montana has a lot of true wilderness too.  The Bob Marshall Complex (The Bob, Scapegoat, and Great Bear)  Then Like Mark said, we have the AB, and also the Lee Metcalf.

The Bob Marshall is where I hang out.  The whole complex is somewhere around 1.5 million acres.  The "backcountry" districts get hammered in their early rifle season, and game numbers are really low.  But it's some of the most gorgeous country in the world, and I just enjoy being a hillbilly in the middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: Dan Adair on December 23, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Biathlonman:
I went to the Bob Marshall (Montana) last September, a midwestern boys dream.
That was a fun trip.
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: Eagle48 on December 23, 2012, 07:05:00 PM
Technically the most remote area is the thorofare in the southeast corner of Yellowstone National Park. I believe it's 30 miles in every direction to the nearest road.
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on December 23, 2012, 07:52:00 PM
Upper sierras and our desserts. But you will work your buns off to see deer.
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Post by: FerretWYO on December 23, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
I do hunt it. Where though. I can't tell where  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Cedar&Flint on December 23, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
Before I got to old to do it anymore my brother and I would pack into the West Elk Wilderness in Colorado. Absolutely beautiful country and lots of elk! We would be in there 10 days and never see another human. That's been about 20 years ago. I would like to know if anyone could tell me if it's still that way. Best times of my life, really glad I got to do it.
Title: Re: Remote Wilderness
Post by: Mark Baker on December 24, 2012, 11:18:00 AM
The "Bob" is amazing...I did a two week trip as a teenager across it with a backpack.  And considering that it's connected with Glacier and even up into Waterton Parks makes it all the more "awesome", in scope of size and wondrous beauty!  

I have also longed to do a trip by canoe into the boundary waters area of Minnesota, Wisconsin and into Canada....another great area (from what I've read and dreamed about).
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Post by: Outwest on December 24, 2012, 06:56:00 PM
I've hunted Hells Canyon wilderness in Oregon at least a dozen times and last September I hunted the Weneha wilderness in Washington.
While these areas are not huge by comparison to some others they are very large and absolutley some of the steepest roughest terrain you will encounter anywhere. At one point Hells Canyon is over 7000 foot elevation change from rim to river.Both areas are very game rich with lots of elk, bears and deer.

John