What are your thoughts about a hunting license thats good for everything? As long as it's done with trad equipment.
Everything? In the state? In the world? In the galaxy? Including zombies?
Don't see a difference in that and an archery license. You are never going to establish a license that crosses state lines at least for all 50. Not sure where you are going with your line of thought.
I'd be buying the Zombie tag!
you got it. State wide. Small game, big game, fur harvester, and yes zombies.
What's the point of limiting it to trad equipment? What's the definition of trad equipment?What's the benefit to the state?
Never mind.
It would be great for us, but we don't account for much of the hunting public, let alone the public at large. For something like that to ever become anything more than a dream, you would have to have a convincing argument as to how this would benefit all the other competing interests that have anything to say about the allocation of hunting resources.
I don't know what the license structure is in Michigan so it is hard for me to answer with any useful input. We have a "Gold Sportsman" license here that let's you hunt all seasons with all weapons, fish salt and fresh water, access management areas etc. for @ $100 (residents). I don't know where a trad everything license would fit into our structure.
We also follow a "lesser weapon" inclusive policy that lets you use archery tackle in all seasons and muzzleloading equipment in general gun. I know some states do not have that option. :banghead:
Your right Dave, competing interest. I just don't think it would hurt anything if maybe you had a chance at a furbearing animal (coyote lets say) and it would be legal. Some people don't hunt or trap coyotes, coon, fox etc.. Just a target of oppurtunity.
Traditional equipment would create a maximum allowed participation / minimum impact situation. It is a limiting factor. Sounds fun.
However,
there are certain elements that would preclude that from ever happening. . . mainly other hunters.
Rules, enforcement, jealousy,cheaters etc etc would be a problem.
Cool thought, I would buy such a tag, but I don't think it would ever happen.
Merry Christmas
ChuckC
Your right Chuck, just dreaming out loud. It's just something I think about every time I go out with my bow.
We used to have sportsman license. Allthough you couldn't use it to shoot a sportsman.
In California we dont have a lic that allows for everything but you can get a archery only deer tag that allows you to hunt about 75% of the deer zones in the state were any other weapon you are restricted to the zone the tag is issued for. Now its been many years scene i have hunted deer and knowing our state this may have become more restrictive over the years but it was nice being able to hunt most of the state with a single tag .
QuoteOriginally posted by kill shot:
Never mind.
Wasn't trying to be a smart a$$. I was involved in getting some falconry regulations passed in my state. Just asking some questions that I know the state would ask you. Seems to be that one of the biggest(if not the biggest) factor to the state is if doing some thing will add to the revenue. It's all about the $$$
I'm in, but only if I can use "Dukes of Hazzard" or "Rambo" arrows with explosive broadheads.
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Yeah, that would go over great here in the soviet state of N.J. As long as you have to pay and pay and pay and pay, you get the idea.
I do like the idea of a Zombie license as we do have many of them in this state, they seem to favor hanging around Gov't buildings and walking in and out of them while doing NOTHING.
Oh so that's the Zombie license you fella's are talking about...I want one :rolleyes: :wavey:
what if there were a "subsistence" tag..??
Same principle as 'target of opportunity'.
I'm sure the cheaters would be out in force. Though, the fines could be set SO HIGH as to discourage cheats...I like the original thought and just adding a 'catch' phrase to it.
AS for THAT Zombie tag..I want one good for
-either genre..
Here in Oklahoma it is called a lifetime hunting .license.Good for everything except antelope and maybe elk I think
Hey,some of those zombies are friends of mine.
I'd be interested if NY had a trad Sportsman's license. Would make sense if some public land opportunities were open to traditional bowhunting or muzzle loader only.
Don't think it would work in Wyoming. Would cost too much with all the tags we can apply for. Imagine one license for elk, whitetail, mule deer, moose, bear, antelope.....etc. Don't think Wyoming would go for it.
I think some states would make more money. For example I started hunting Elk in CO 5 years ago. I used my compound bow. Never got an elk. Saw some and had a great time. Problem now is I do not own a compound anymore and shoot a longbow. I know my chances of shooting an elk are pretty slim. In the unit I hunt it went from a $250+ cow only tag option to an ether sex tag for $560+ as your only option. Why would I pay for a $560+ tag when I know I have a 98-99% chance of walking away empty handed? So this last year I did not go. CDW lost their $560 for the tag and the town lost my tourist $$ and I didn't go. We all lost. A true traditional archery tag should be half price in CO or we should at least have the option of buying a cow only tag when nobody else does.
Alabama is pretty good about keeping it simple. You buy your all game permit and just go hunting! Archery opens Oct 15th, and you hunt till Jan 31st with Bow, Gun, or a Spear.
The only other fees might be for special management hunts or Duck Stamps. Gun season starts around the 20th of Nov.
I never have understood why some states make it so complicated. Could it be the $$$?
QuoteOriginally posted by okla bearclaw:
Here in Oklahoma it is called a lifetime hunting .license.Good for everything except antelope and maybe elk I think
And bear now that we got those
I don't run trap lines anymore or go out calling with a rifle. Don't run coons with dogs. But I sure would like a chance at one of those furry suckers if I had the chance while out with my bow. I'm not going to purchase a fur harvester license for a chance thats remote to say the least.
Zombies are not considered game animals so no license is required.
If zombies are non game animals, then some states may outlaw hunting them! Lol. We should refer to them as an invasive species, in which there can be no regulations on bag limit, method of taking, or season dates.
All joking aside, I believe there should be a 'special' trad only hunting season, and further, it should start before all other seasons. At least in the areas with higher hunting pressure. And while I'm at it, I don't believe that cross guns should be able to hunt the entire bow season either, except for youth, seniors, and dissabled hunters.
If there is enough interest, and the state can earn additional money, then they might start to listen. Lets start spreading the word. Ps my experience in hunting laws and regs are limited to Michigan, so please keep this in mind. I have no intensions of fouling up good and fair regulations in other states.
I hunt with traditional equipment because I like to. I don't want to legislate that on others Remember, it is our choice. Sure it is not fair, but heck that is life. Hunt with the tools you choose and pass it on. In the end that is all we can do.
Wes you are right ,bear slipped my mind.Really do not like that all hunting is not included as it is kind of like they changed the rules after people bought the lifetime .licenses.Sort of like the Social Security Administration.
That would imply my longbow or recurve is somehow less effective than a compound. It aint. :bigsmyl:
Was just watching a hunting show..kill shot was 52yds with wheelbow. Seen a lot of that lately and made me think.
Seasons Revamp..
First Season...Traditional Stickbows
Second Season..Traditional Muzzle Loaders (Flintlocks and Percussion)
Third Season..Archery..Compounds, Crossbows, Stickbows.
Fourth Season..Modern Weapons..All of it. Inlines, handguns, rifles, etc.
Late Season..Archery
Brazos, you pay 500 + on a tag for the opportunity to go hunt the critters in the mountains of Colorado, something I cannot do in Wisconsin.
Nothing about a hunting license or even a high cost guide promises anything.
ChuckC
OK, how about a Hunter's Choice Tag..?
You can buy a combo license that is for pre-1800 weapons. All weapons must be made of like materials and replicate weapons made before 1800.
Said tag would be good for 3(?)animals of Hunter's Choice.
To include fur bearer, small game, deer, turkey, bear, elk.
With the woodland creature bear, elk, turkey, deer, counting as two of your choices.??
I buy a sportsman's license here in KY and it covers all hunting and all types of equipment. Works for me.
Our deer season starts 1st Saturday of Sept. and ends on the 3rd Monday in January (MLK Day).
I would not want or see the need for a trad-only season. It would be EXTREMELY destructive of hunter relations to even suggest kicking the compound hunter out of September. In fact, if such a move began here I would be ashamed of my brethren.
Enough, Don't even breath a thought of this as politicians will be all over it, to make a buck and tell you for good things but use it for bull****.
This aint about the seasons. It's about a trad only license that covers everything.and yes including zombies.