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Title: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: TexasStick81 on December 18, 2012, 03:49:00 PM
I'm considering having a new bow made and I'm wanting dark veneers on it.  Cocobolo and other oily woods are out so I need some ideas.  I've searched this forum so I've seen some but I'm hoping there are more out there.  I like a burl or crotch type grain with dark browns or reds.  I have seen some dark walnut, koa, and buginga that seem to work. I see amazing walnut burl/crotch gun stocks but virtually no limb veneers, am I missing something or do people just not like it in veneers?  Hope you guys can help me out with some pics.  

Thanks
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: TxAg on December 18, 2012, 04:13:00 PM
Here is walnut.  It does show the streaks in the glass, though. It's just a fact of life with dark woods.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C4cTqW7ZaGM/T_t9sG4rmiI/AAAAAAAADPA/vLAAzo9SaKw/s800/IMG_1196.JPG)

  (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DlIRFQ1XwNM/T_t9sTdu9UI/AAAAAAAADO8/NAy76ujbEiw/s800/IMG_1199.JPG)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: TxAg on December 18, 2012, 04:16:00 PM
Zebra wood

 (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mr4dyIT9UYI/T8E3I57goQI/AAAAAAAADLs/xEWmboSpoHQ/s800/IMG_0639.JPG)

Dark Myrtle

 (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lodAcoPSkzE/UNDcE6sQVII/AAAAAAAADhU/UCn_jngy2V4/s800/IMG_1003.JPG)  

  (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Rp4Hs_FjyhM/UNDcEOgjUII/AAAAAAAADhE/9BVi2NBUFn4/s800/IMG_1001.JPG)

  (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c54p9RNHVsQ/UNDcFDBZTwI/AAAAAAAADhY/y9Kp-DM7lGw/s800/IMG_1006.JPG)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: 2treks on December 18, 2012, 04:29:00 PM
Bacote

(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1020395.jpg)

Walnut Burl.
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/Ambush%20Recurve/P1010624.jpg)

Both available. PM for info.
Merry Christmas,
CTT
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: 7 Lakes on December 18, 2012, 04:35:00 PM
The Burl veneers can be brittle and crumbly.  Seldom do you come across a burl that's 36" long, long enough to make a limb veneer.

Here's some Curly Maple that's been darkened with Aquafortis.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r243/7Lakes/Aquafortis/102_4496.jpg)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r243/7Lakes/Aquafortis/102_4499.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Rob W. on December 18, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
Stained American elm.

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/P1010410.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: TexasStick81 on December 18, 2012, 05:08:00 PM
Thanks guys.  Keep em coming.  I keep coming back to the walnut.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: NBK on December 18, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
Rob, that elm looks sweet.  I sometimes think that we overlook more common woods.  The right cut with the grain and the right stain really makes for a beautiful veneer.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Prairie Drifter on December 18, 2012, 05:59:00 PM
B&W ebony

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/Prairiedrifter/bows/Picture086-1.jpg)

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/Prairiedrifter/bows/Picture088-1.jpg)

Myrtle

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/Prairiedrifter/bows/IMG_0448.jpg)

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/Prairiedrifter/bows/IMG_0435.jpg)

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/Prairiedrifter/bows/IMG_0428.jpg)

Bocote

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/Prairiedrifter/bows/Picture103.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Rob W. on December 18, 2012, 06:13:00 PM
NBK, I agree. I really like the native hardwoods. Actually the one pictured is a working lam(pretty sure) with walnut core. Sweet shooter.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Robertfishes on December 18, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
This is a pic of a bow under construction..I used East Indian Rosewood veneers  (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/bow15EIRosewood-1.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Robertfishes on December 18, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
another bow that I snapped a pic of before I was finished with it.. I used a 64" piece of Macassar Ebony veneer in this one, no splice in center of bow.   (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/bow10f.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: 59Alaskan on December 18, 2012, 06:58:00 PM
I did not say no no to coco...and I am very happy.

(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa337/ceme24/4A6499BA-856B-4FBD-A5A3-AE4D19A3C6BA-14947-00000C975158B95C_zps633fe2f1.jpg)

(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa337/ceme24/BEEF1E5F-BF43-486B-9EA1-E4A09D60CC0F-38683-00001F229FCB6E70_zpsa5c285f9.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Pokerdaddy on December 18, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
Timely thread!  I just put down a deposit with Allen Boice for a Liberty Contender and would like to do dark brown veneers as well.  Decisions, decisions.....so many beautiful limbs.  Really love the dark curly maple.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Robertfishes on December 18, 2012, 07:03:00 PM
I used a nice medium dark Bubinga veneer in this one, no splice in veneer it was 84" long before I cut it to size.. gonna build a long bow next month with some of this bubinga veneer..  (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/augustbubinga2011a.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: TexasStick81 on December 18, 2012, 07:03:00 PM
Oh don't get me wrong I love the coco but some bowyers don't like to use it in the veneers.  Is the rosewood similar in terms of oil in the wood?
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Robertfishes on December 18, 2012, 07:13:00 PM
I didn't think the East Indian Rosewood was oily at all, I sprayed some Spar urethane on a scrap piece of veneer and it dried just fine.... but I did seal it before spraying the finish just in case.. I have used cocobolo,santos rosewood and Pau fero(morado)and had to seal wood before appling the finish
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Robertfishes on December 18, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
I got a couple of Cocobolo boards 2 years ago, I'm sitting on them for now..  (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/3x6x10cocobolo.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: 2treks on December 18, 2012, 07:58:00 PM
That is sweet Brandon.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Upper 'Sippi on December 18, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
Here's another example of bubinga.

I like the contrast of light and dark.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vZfFvquzJx0/UGBoHcjk8dI/AAAAAAAAHhE/hu073XF1iC4/s640/IMG_6937a.JPG)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: typical2 on December 18, 2012, 08:09:00 PM
www.rosewoodarchery.com (http://www.rosewoodarchery.com)  has some dark bocote vereers that look interesting.  Maybee it's too much on the oily side but something to look at.


 (http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w364/typical2/limbwoods.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: TexasStick81 on December 18, 2012, 08:21:00 PM
upper sippi - that bubinga is amazing.  I like the really dark bacote as well, most of it seems lighter and more yellow than that.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: YORNOC on December 19, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Texasrecurve81:
upper sippi - that bubinga is amazing.  I like the really dark bacote as well, most of it seems lighter and more yellow than that.
X2, best bubinga I've ever seen.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: JamesKerr on December 19, 2012, 12:43:00 PM
Here is a picture of my tomahawk legacy series woodland hunter.
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o780/jakerr1/018640x480.jpg)
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o780/jakerr1/017640x480.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Yellow Dog on December 19, 2012, 04:58:00 PM
RER Arroyo with Cocobolo veneers. Kevin did a great job on it with streak free glass.

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/Yellowdog3822/P2270152.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: TexasStick81 on December 19, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
Man I love the cocobolo.  Hard to beat.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: rmorris on December 19, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee465/buckskinbows/5.jpg)

You just can't beat cocobolo, I do prefer alittle more red or orange for veneers , but I try to use my darker purple coco in the riser
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Bear Heart on December 19, 2012, 10:25:00 PM
black woven carbon fiber provides a nice dark limb
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: Safari Scott on December 20, 2012, 06:34:00 AM
Wenge or Ziricote would do the trick, or Walnut.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: hybridbow hunter on December 20, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/BJ2-1.jpg)


(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/BJ-1.jpg)
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: TexasStick81 on December 20, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
Man, Big Jim has a stash of the best cocobolo I've ever seen.  I had a TC made of the same stuff.
Title: Re: dark veneer pics needed
Post by: bearsfeet on December 20, 2012, 05:07:00 PM
here is my blacktail.. I love this wood combo

(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m551/bedortha1234/blacktail3.jpg)