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Title: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: riverrat 2 on December 13, 2012, 02:25:00 PM
Anybody know? I loved these arrows in my younger days. I remember my dad buying them for us at Anderson Archery when we were spuds. I just started shooting 2018's again,and am back in love. But alas,like many others,I miss that Autumn Orange of my youth. Imagine those re-available with the push-in "S" nocks. That would be so nice! Must be the high-speed bow/carbon market is so much more lucritive. Just wondering aloud. rat'
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: pete p on December 13, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
shot my very first deer in 89 with an autumn orange. i miss em too. i bet if easton produced them again theyd sell more nowadays to guys like us missing our "vintage" arrows of yesteryear.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: bigbadjon on December 13, 2012, 03:05:00 PM
I'm betting if they were big sellers they would still be in production. That said I like them and I also like the naturals. I just make do with what I find second hand.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: JV Rooster on December 13, 2012, 03:24:00 PM
I like them to plus they stand out better when stump shooting.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: joe skipp on December 13, 2012, 03:25:00 PM
Miss the Orange and Dougherty Naturals. The money is in Carbons right now.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: kstout on December 13, 2012, 03:38:00 PM
Just stopped at a local 2nd hand store and found 11 2016 autumn orange xx75's.  Had 4" feathers, and didn't look like they had been shot.  Asked the owner if he had a tape rule, measured them, and they were full length.  Asked about price and he wanted $1.00 each, I offered $9 for all and he accepted.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Chromebuck on December 13, 2012, 03:40:00 PM
I'm with ya rat!  Whenever something cool is discontinued it seems like people start hoarding.  They have a cult following similar  to the original Storm Hot-N-Tots.  :saywhat:  

I did see that the new VPA Vapor the Tradtusker posted has autumn orange anodizing as an option for the riser.  Goes to show how another company with a  different product is capitalizing on the following.

Would be cool to see FMJ in autumn orange.

 :campfire:
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: buckracks7 on December 13, 2012, 03:52:00 PM
I think the trend at the time moved towards camo. They always want to change things.

My all time favorite is the JDA Super Naturals.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Kelly on December 13, 2012, 04:06:00 PM
They were discontinued along with all the other types and sizes because of slow sales.

First to go were the 18 and 20 sizes like 1618, 1718, 1720, 1818, 1820, 1918, 1920 because they were so tough(stayed straighter longer, too) that archers used them until broken. Easton found out that if they offered larger diameters in thinner walls they would break easier thus creating more sales hence all the 12, 12, 14 wall thickness sizes. Then along came carbons in 3 sizes that worked for all bows and now aluminums are much harder to find in good hunting sizes.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: BOWMARKS on December 13, 2012, 04:26:00 PM
rat

I'm with you on the Autumn Orange also,I scoop them up everytime I get the chance which isnt to often anymore.

I'm a 1918 freak along with one of your Michigan brothers.

I see them flying good out of that new Centaur next year!!  :archer2:
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: stringstretcher on December 13, 2012, 04:28:00 PM
I think that any one that shoots carbon knows the answer to this for the most part....SPEED.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: pete p on December 13, 2012, 04:28:00 PM
anyone remember the JDA serpents?? cool looking shaft...
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: riverrat 2 on December 13, 2012, 04:28:00 PM
Chromebuck,your right on the hoarding deal. I am all over those original Hot-n-Tots myself. They ONLY get tied on in river runs that I know are snag free. Keith,I had a real killer color combo of those that I snagged up a few years back fishing for Kings. Stripped down to my skivies,and dove down to free it up! I still have it.   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: riverrat 2 on December 13, 2012, 04:35:00 PM
You said it BOWMARKS! I have'nt tried aluminum out of one of my Centaurs yet. All the others shoot them just great. rat'
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Matty on December 13, 2012, 04:40:00 PM
You would just think with the technology of today you could just call up a company like Easton and they could just whip you up a batch of what ever size, color,nock,and insert option just like that.  I bet there's a back room or a basement corner over at Easton full of autumn orange shafts
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: riverrat 2 on December 13, 2012, 04:41:00 PM
I sent them an email last night thinking the same thing Matty. Have'nt heard anything yet. But I agree with everything you stated. rat'
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: dtarbell on December 13, 2012, 04:47:00 PM
I always liked the xx75 autumn orange as well,they from that to camo,suppose they thought that would be more desirable.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Brianlocal3 on December 13, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
It's a business thing only, back them they were old news, re-introduce them and they would sell because they are new again.  Wood grained carbons just look cool, but are no better than all black,grey what have you.  Look at the hype with "traditional" axis arrow. Bring them back as traditional alums and there you go.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Hopewell Tom on December 13, 2012, 05:01:00 PM
"We" talked about this a while ago. I never had a previous experience with the AO, but really liked the colour from the posts on that last thread, so advertised for some 2018's and I got 5 with inserts FREE from a guy(What a place this is!) and BOWMARKS rounded me up a dozen uncut.
The 5 have turned into Flu-Flu's and I'm waiting for Snag (Wilderness Custom Arrows) to agree to do the "tin can" arrows. He sure likes the woodies. I do too for that matter, but would like to get these shafts dressed up.
Someone would probably have to ask Easton to do up 20 or 30,000 to make it worth their while.
Anyone?
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Marc B. on December 13, 2012, 05:11:00 PM
I used them all the time back in the day. I still have a few left but don't use them anymore. I would go back to using them if they were available again.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: KYArcher on December 13, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
I miss em too!! Switched to the Camo, and wasn't that a dumb thing shooting an arrow you couldn't find?...KYArcher
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: BOWMARKS on December 13, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by KYArcher:
 Switched to the Camo, and wasn't that a dumb thing shooting an arrow you couldn't find?...KYArcher
Man you nailed that!! Could never figure that out.   :confused:
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Oliverstacy on December 13, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
A touch off topic but I wonder how carbon's that were in the Autumn Orange format would sell?

I know for a fact I would by a few dozen AO carbon's if they were offered in the MFX/AXIS line.

Thanks,

Josh
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: KYArcher on December 13, 2012, 06:01:00 PM
I don't think orange carbons would look quite the same?....KY
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: ti-guy on December 13, 2012, 06:09:00 PM
They still have orange with the NASP genesis v2,why not with the other shafts? I miss that color too!  :)
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: on December 13, 2012, 06:16:00 PM
Most of 1818s, 1918s, and 1920 (I really like the 1920s) are AOs. I bought some camo 2018s a few years back and couldn't hit anything with them until  I painted the the end 6 inches bright chartreuse.  For me apparently, it helps if I can see something .
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: DennyK on December 13, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
I've got a couple dozen of the 1920's, love 'em. Wish I could find some 2018's. Not real sure if they made them in 2020, but I sure would like some of those to.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Hud on December 13, 2012, 06:44:00 PM
It takes me awhile to find something I really like, and that is about the time it gets discontinued. Autumn Orange, Bear broadheads, Bear Magnum Arrows, Bear White tip limbs.....
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: M60gunner on December 13, 2012, 06:59:00 PM
I am keeping my AO arrows and shafts that I hoarded. I did have 4 doz. AO 2020's that I sold to another Tradgang member. I kept 2 doz. but they are made into hunting arrows. I like the 2020 out of my Pete George longbow. I do remember a magazine writer making fun of the orange shafts, not camouflaged. There was a big deal (still is) that you could not harvest any game unless you were camo down to you underwear. Easton just went along with the trend at that time.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: LC on December 13, 2012, 07:33:00 PM
I have to agree it's down fall was the timing of the craze everything had to be in camo. It's all marketing and who knows maybe it will come back around. I gotta to admit I never ever liked alum shafts. It was always wood for me then but now I've switched to carbons and seldom look in the rear view mirrow on arrow shafting.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Red Beastmaster on December 13, 2012, 07:35:00 PM
I think the dumbest looking shaft is the Legacy fake wood grain. I mean, come on, who are they kidding? I only use them for hunting because I think camo shafts look even more rediculous.

For the majority of my shooting I use Blues. Now there's a color you can find behind a target! Nothing fake about it, they're just blue, cheap, and as tough as any other color.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: dino on December 13, 2012, 07:36:00 PM
I talked to Easton last year about AO shafts (again).  They will make them up for who every wants them, and I can't remember the number but it was something 5,000 shafts per size and atleast 5 sizes or something like that.  Easton themselves don't think there would be enough demand there to make that a standard shaft to carry again and I don't totally disagree with them either. I wouldn't be suprised if the legacy shaft disappears in a few years.  dino
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: longrifle on December 13, 2012, 08:46:00 PM
I'm with Buckracks 7 I love the JDA Supernaturals.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Pointer on December 13, 2012, 09:21:00 PM
hunted with some 2115 autumn orange this year with my 50lb bear recurve,,just like old times..they just look right in the quiver in the autimn woods..lol...
Now and again you canfind them on the large auction site...I check there from time to time..
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Brazos on December 13, 2012, 10:13:00 PM
AO is my favorite and miss them.  I do like the Blues I am shooting now and may buy some Jazz's in the future.  I don't like camo.  Not needed and makes it harder to find your arrow.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Dave Pagel on December 14, 2012, 07:02:00 AM
Bowmarks, you talking about me while I am off on business?  I pick up AOs whenever I get the chance.  2016s, 2018s, 2020s and the good old 1918s.  I found some 2018 Papes Bark Browns at a shop the other day, another favorite of mine.

D.P.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: stevewills on December 14, 2012, 09:46:00 AM
so my local bow shop has like 10 or 15 dozen of these shafts,should i buy them all if the price is right
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Elk whisperer on December 14, 2012, 11:24:00 AM
bought 2 doz AO 2020 on this site they are nice
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: BOWMARKS on December 14, 2012, 12:43:00 PM
Dave

Yes talking about you,I know your an Autumn Orange freak along with a few others speacialy me.
 I figured you would jump in on this so I left your name out.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: BOWMARKS on December 14, 2012, 12:47:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by stevewills:
so my local bow shop has like 10 or 15 dozen of these shafts,should i buy them all if the price is right
I would find out the sizes and price he has then post them on this thread for those of us that want them to buy.   :campfire:
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Alexander Traditional on December 14, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
I remember these as a kid. I always liked the different camo variety,but now I wish they were still an option.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Shortlongbow on December 14, 2012, 02:56:00 PM
I shoot wood now days but always like the AO when shooting aluminum. I had some legacy shafts because they were the only ones I could find with old swaged nock tapers. I'd buy some 2020 AO if I saw some for sale probably.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Scott357 on December 14, 2012, 03:05:00 PM
Autumn Orange were probably among the first arrows I bought when I started wheelie bow archery as a teen. Like so many other folks here they were my favorites too. I shoot woodies now. I ordered a dozen douglas fir shafts yesterday. I am seriously thinking about dyeing at least 6 of them orange to sort of commemorate my first arrows from the old days.

Scott.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Tom Leemans on December 14, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
Before those, the hot shaft was Micro-Flites. There was nothing wrong with those either. Cut 'em, glue in inserts, nocks, fletch them. Tough shaft. Not real good for stumping, but would come back for more when an alum shaft would bend.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Mr. fingers on December 14, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Didn't Easton offer a shaft very simular to the autumn orange called Easton Yukons?
I too shot my first deer with autumn oranges.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Gordon martiniuk on December 15, 2012, 06:04:00 PM
Autumn orange haven't been made in many years they are xx75 arrows of another color ,, I still have a couple doz from my coumpound ,, Alum is ok but they will bend ,, thats why carbons have taken over , wood and alum , if you want the old trad feel and look why not get some wood
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Bowwild on December 15, 2012, 07:29:00 PM
I have a few dozen 2016 AO's. I don't use them as I prefer MFX and the newer Axis Trads.  I moved a lot of 2016's several months ago (slightly used ones).  I just keep these few dozen in case I get heavy into squirrels.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: riverrat 2 on December 17, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
I LOVE THIS FORUM!! I received a tube in the mail today. I scratched my head thinking "I did'nt order anything" Then I saw my buddy Troy Burns "Burnsie" name on it,I opened it,and behold..5 perfect Autumn Orange XX75 shafts!!
He saw me whining on this post of mine,and sent me some to allow me to drift back to my earlier days of archery. Troy,I thank you. Your friend Ryan.   :clapper:
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: Burnsie on December 17, 2012, 09:19:00 PM
Ryan,
Only wish I would have had more to send your way, that's all I had left in my AO stash, except for a couple bent up 2117's.  A very small token of appreciation for the hospitality you've shown Grant and I. Hope you have some fun with them.
Oh, and I didn't think you were whining, I'm a big AO fan too, that's what I started with as a teen many moons ago. They bring back good memories and reminiscing for me as well.
Take care Buddy,  Burnsie
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: hayslope on December 18, 2012, 01:18:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by dino:
I talked to Easton last year about AO shafts (again).  They will make them up for who every wants them, and I can't remember the number but it was something 5,000 shafts per size and atleast 5 sizes or something like that.  Easton themselves don't think there would be enough demand there to make that a standard shaft to carry again and I don't totally disagree with them either.  
I've heard the exact same thing during past discussions regarding AO shafts.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: BOWMARKS on December 18, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by hayslope:
[QB]
QuoteOriginally posted by dino:
[qb] I talked to Easton last year about AO shafts (again).  They will make them up for who every wants them, and I can't remember the number but it was something 5,000 shafts per size and atleast 5 sizes or something like that.  Easton themselves don't think there would be enough demand there to make that a standard shaft to carry again and I don't totally disagree with them either.  

If I had'nt done so good on fleabay buying these I would try to get a bunch of the AO. lovers together.
Title: Re: Why did Easton scrap Autumn Orange?
Post by: riverrat 2 on December 19, 2012, 05:00:00 PM
DID I MENTION I LOVE THIS FORUM! I just got a PM from my buddy BOWMARKS. He found me a full dozen Autumn Orange full length shafts,and bought them for me,and had them sent my way!! I tell you what Mark,I really can't thank you enough. I only hope in the near future I can a similar favor for you. I AM ALL SET NOW FELLAS'! between Mark & Troy,I have nearly a dozen and a half! AWESOME! rat'

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