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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Pheonixarcher on December 04, 2012, 04:19:00 AM
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Well, I have sent Kirk my deposit for a new bow. My 'back up' plan is a Sasquatch, but I'd really like to get a shorter hunting bow. I know that whatever I end up buying, it will be a great bow. But, I am curious if anybody has tried his Yeti, and what their opinions might be. If you have, please post an honest review, along with your specs and any pics you might have, or pm me, or email at [email protected]. Also, if anyone has a good wood combo they'd like to share, I'd appreciate it. I prefer the darker colors, with maybe a lighter accent. Thanks gang.
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Paul,
Kirk's will not release a model till he's tested it silly...and he's awfully picky about results!
As for wood combo, well, if you tell Kirk what you like, he'll show you some options from his stash.
In the end, I let him make some recommendations and then gave him "artistic license" and could NOT be happier with my results. Different model, but when it came to blending woods and eye appeal, that boy is an artist!
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm292/DavidLandis/Big%20foot/SANY0046.jpg)
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm292/DavidLandis/Big%20foot/SANY0036.jpg)
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Doc love the bow,he does wonders with wood. :thumbsup:
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Yeah, Larry, but a pretty face is just so much make-up as I age...
If I hadn't come to fully appreciate his attention to detail, studying my shooting videos to see why the blazes I have so much trouble all these years with standard shaped risers, regardless of how fat or skinny, I'd not have "bit."
Once he came around outlining what and how he'd try to resolve this 30 yr conundrum for me, then I was hooked...thru the waiting period, I got updates on his limb design testing and pursuit of excellence!
That iced the cake.
ONLY after the fact, (and that I was allowed to pay ahead thru the waiting period so I was paid off early and then could scrimp out a few "purdy" features) did I start to consider adding ramp cap veneers and went to the XXX carbon foam core.
At 47#...that bow blisters and is smooth, quiet and now, thankfully, points and rests in my hand such that I don't have to fight a location for EVERY shot. Every shot just settles into my paw and is GONE!
I went with a wood I-beam of the waterfall bubinga, and the outrageous bocote outside...I said I like grain and figure in wood...and got it in spades!
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"Yeah, Larry, but a pretty face is just so much make-up as I age..."
Using more and more every year, eh, Doc?
Kirk has a great eye for woods, and he puts his all into every bow. I would feel very confident trusting him with my money and in his execution of the bowyer's arts. He is far pickier than I.
Killdeer :thumbsup:
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Wow Doc, that is certainly one to be proud of. Almost too pretty to take hunting.
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Originally posted by Killdeer:
"Yeah, Larry, but a pretty face is just so much make-up as I age..."
Using more and more every year, eh, Doc?
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Only you, Killy Dear, Only you!!! :bigsmyl:
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Well Paul, You will certainly have the option of a shorter bow. I was going to wait till after the first of the year for the debut of the "Yeti TD RC" but i can show you some of the prototypes i'm working on right now.....
These bows will run from 52-56" in length. Depending on your draw length we should be able to fix you up in something in that range. Here are a couple photos of the first few sets of limbs and a couple different risers I've got going right now with recurve limbs. I have no test results on performance at this time, but they are starting to bend in all the right places and are shooting pretty darn good.... but i still have some fine tuning to do...
Both of these bows are 52" in length.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/riser001-3.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/riser001-1.jpg)
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What do you think the draw lengths are going to be for these?
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That koa or Walnut and Wenge bow is to die for. Got me drooling all over the puter Bro.
Those bows look like they will go at least 29 without stacking considering that string angle.
God bless , Steve
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Lookin good bro. Drool drool.
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WOW! I like that second one Kirk. Are you going to stick with that riser design and limb match-up with the riser? Looks Great!
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Kirk, those are beautiful creations! I can't wait to discuss the details of my bow. Great work!
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You can NEVER go wrong with Kirk building you a bow.Kirk will do everything he can to give you the best performing bow.
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Originally posted by iohkus:
WOW! I like that second one Kirk. Are you going to stick with that riser design and limb match-up with the riser? Looks Great!
You got it Will...Good eye. :thumbsup: The first one i was too far back on the pad angle, and out too far on the hook. She's ahell of a shooter, but not what i was looking for. I've got a different set of limbs on the second one.
I've been shifting the limbs around on my form and working out the best taper rate to get everything bending in the right place. I'm going to probably end up with two different limbs. "Longs" and "Shorts" and use riser length and power wedge shifting in the core for different draw lengths.
By January i'll have a full range of draw lengths from 25"- 30" i don't think i'm going to stick my neck out on a 32" in this model. those guys are going to have to move up to the Sasquatch model.
Here's another 52" i just strung up tonight.... i've got these dialed in pretty good now. next batch i lay up will be the 54" limbs.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/IMAG0474.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/IMAG0481.jpg)
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One more note here... I'm going to have to come up with long bow limbs for this shorty bow too. That waits till next month though. I've got too much going on before Christmas to get started on that right now... Kirk
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Great looking bows, perfect for a pop-up blind.
Man that grip looks very repeatable.
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:clapper: keep at it Kirk
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I can't wait to see some speed numbers on that 52". Most short bows are lacking in the speed department.
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Wow... that is a gorgeous riser and I like darker woods better...
Kirk, you even took the time to "stitch" the wood accent, not just glue it into the riser! :rolleyes: :knothead: :laughing: (private joke)
I know, I know...they're Mosaics, not stitches! :)
Nobody fusses more with balancing limbs, tiller and moving power wedges around to get smooth, fast limbs plus both vertical and lateral stability than KIRK!
Were I a rich man and not just good looking, :rolleyes: --I'd have to get a shortie to go with my 60" Sassy Lady!
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Originally posted by Kirkll:
By January i'll have a full range of draw lengths from 25"- 30" i don't think i'm going to stick my neck out on a 32" in this model.
Kirk, by that do you mean you don't trust the structural integrity at 32"? Or would it just stack horribly and you don't want to waste time trying to make it work?
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Kirk, you gotta update that web-site! I was on there last night and disappointed to see that your TD recurve was not offered in anything shorter than 64." The bow-shoppers wanna know the latest on what you are doing! Thanks.
Hugh
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I swear Kirk never sleeps.....he's busy building custom order bows, plus developing new designs in his *SPARE* time.
A lot of guys like shorter bows so, he now has filled that niche too. :clapper:
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Whoaaa.......... changed my mind ..........I like that last one better! :notworthy: :banghead:
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Ya, I like the double flare better than the shark tooth. That last bow is a real looker,. Its just hard to believe that these are 52 in bows. They look exactly like the 64s in balance. Did you guys get that brace height. I cannot think of another 52 in bow except one Kirk and I collaborated on that I am in process with that has that low brace. It will possibly bring the 52 up to the performance levels of the longer models./ That is something that has needed to be done years ago.
God bless you all, Steve
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I think Kirk was away today...so be patient for his reply...
All website revision takes is either talent or money... I know it's on his "agenda" to get it updated!
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Kirk - You need someone to test those for you and give an unbiased opinion. :)
Nice looking work again!
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I agree Steve, and looks like a fair amount of preload also.
Don't think I have seen one wood combo Kirk does that does not look mighty good.
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Originally posted by Trumpkin the Dwarf:
Originally posted by Kirkll:
By January i'll have a full range of draw lengths from 25"- 30" i don't think i'm going to stick my neck out on a 32" in this model.
Kirk, by that do you mean you don't trust the structural integrity at 32"? Or would it just stack horribly and you don't want to waste time trying to make it work? [/b]
Hey Malachi, When ever you push a bow beyond the stacking point you are over stressing the limbs. Drawing 32" on this 52" recurve design is not going to happen without fireworks eventually.
I've still got the 54" & 56" models to go though trials, and then testing before i can make any bold statements.... these are just the first of the prototypes. We'll see what we can get out of the 56". that might be enough to see 32".
Here's the deal... if i laid the limbs way back and brought the brace height way up to 8-8.5" we could get more draw length before stacking, but we'd loose our preload and a lot of power stroke doing it. I'd much rather have these shorter bows shooting at 6.5" to 6.75" brace with a nice tight string tension so the guys with shorter draw lengths are not sucking hind tit on performance.
I you build all your bows to draw 32" the guys with 28" draw are going to have a very average performance, and the guys with 26-27" draw are out of luck.
That's what I've got going right now, that last bow i posted is setting right at 6.75". I have no reason to believe these will not perform every bit as good as the Sasquatch model when it's all said and done..... But... i haven't done a lot of testing yet. I work on manners and stability first, and then the balancing comes next.... The performance will depend on the sum total of the whole product.... this stuff does take a bit of time to get the bugs worked out.
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Kirk, I just showed a wheel bow friend at work, these pics, and his jaw dropped! Said "Those are beautiful. I'd shoot something like that!" A convert in the making? Great work my friend. These look outstanding.
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Kirk, Are you going to Western States this year? I would really love to shoot one of those. I have a Cascade 52" that I really like. You saw me shooting it once and said that they were kind of an inspiration for you with the way the limbs looked.
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you bet Chris.... I'll be at western states. and the Cascade limb design was my inspiration for the Sasquatch model. Love those reflex wedges....
I'm just now getting around to getting these shorty TD's dialed in...hopefully i'll get my web site updated in January and have this line added. I'm sending one out next month for field testing and have already taken orders for some of these.
I've got another one i'm working on too that i just built the forms on that have a very similar limb design, as the "Sovereign Balistic" static tip RC.
This one i was originally inspired to build by a man named Luis Sanchez. Lou was impressed with the balistic limb design and has been tinkering with something similar for awhile now. He's a fairly new hobby builder that I've been tutoring since last spring trying to help him get it bending in the right places. This last month he sent me photos that instantly made me sit up straighter in my chair...... I told Lou he finally nailed this one. I also told him honestly I think with some fine tuning and a bit of lip stick this design has serious potential.
So Lou passed the ball back to me and told me to run with it. I'm going to get the bugs worked out of the design and he has commissioned me to build #001 for him. You won't see those come out until Spring though. keep your eye's peeled for the "Sasquatch SS"
Brutha Steve, (Sixby) was just recently commissioned to work on a Sovereign Ballistic bow, and had one right there. When i showed him photos of Lou's prototype he was impressed with the looks and how similar the design was. He also shared my excitement on the possibilities. So we decided to do a joint effort on getting this new limb design dialed in and share our testing results. I think Steve has a form almost completed right now... This should be a fun project.....Kirk
Here you go Doc. if you don't like my "stitching" on the light colored riser, how about the sister riser? this one goes into to stock btw. But the maple riser has a home.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/IMAG0460.jpg)
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I shot a Yeti at Baltimore 2 yrs ago and could not believe the shooting characteristics of such a short bow ! It had good speed and feel at my 29 + draw length .
The new short recurve looks real interesting. :thumbsup:
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Kirk,
Any design photos on that Sasquatch SS? After our last Email traffic, You know I will want on the list for that static recurve. Are you looking for a spring date for taking orders? Thanks
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No design photos yet Bill. All I've got is the limb form completed at this time.
When are you going to be state side again? i could sign you up as the official field tester on this one if you like. Kirk
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Originally posted by Peckerwood:
I shot a Yeti at Baltimore 2 yrs ago and could not believe the shooting characteristics of such a short bow ! It had good speed and feel at my 29 + draw length .
The new short recurve looks real interesting. :thumbsup:
The one you shot was a 54" model one piece long bow.... those were starting to stack around 30"
doing a TD version of this one I'll be able to manipulate draw lengths better and offer a 56" that will shoot well at a wider range.
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Originally posted by Kirkll:
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/IMAG0460.jpg) [/QB]
Anyone who doesn't think that dark riser is gorgeous is either blind or something much worse!
:clapper:
(both are beautiful...only one is [so far] homeless!)
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I'm just wondering how long it took Kirk to paint mosaics on those risers so he could impress you guys.
Andy I'll flip ya for the dark riser. However that maple one is nothing to sneeze at.
I got a feeling that Bro Kirk and Bro Steve may have a little friendly war breaking out on these short statics LOL. I just built my prototypes of the Talon 11 shorty and He will be testing them pretty soon. And now he comes out with this Yeti. Then I got off into the Soverign and origonal Talon Combo and find out Kirk is going the same direction sooooooooooo We are going to brain crash on these things and hopefully come up with some really unique bows that really perform in all aspects.
God bless you all and I guess its time to say Merry Christmas, Steve
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Originally posted by Kirkll:
Here you go Doc. if you don't like my "stitching" on the light colored riser, how about the sister riser? this one goes into to stock btw. But the maple riser has a home.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/IMAG0460.jpg)
:jumper: Kirk ya know I really do like that look... it was just that one with the Spanish theme to it that I teased about...
I call it stitchin and there yer Bro Stever goes and says ya paint them on... ya do have an artistic (or is that autistic?) side to ya! But, nah...I've seen development pics I believe so I know it's all laid up stuff... :laughing: :deadhorse:
YOu do know I'd love to try one of these short suckers... I have that one 'Short' LB I won in a give-away and would love to shoot one of yours...
I do write decent reviews, eh? :rolleyes:
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Kirk,
Thank you so much for the offer of trying out your design. I am honored, but, I will not be able to accept due to an ongoing investigation, I will only be stateside for a short period for a criminal trial in DC. I will probably have some time off in April 2013. It looks like Doc Nock is more than willing. Thank you again. Bill
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Originally posted by Sixby:
I'm just wondering how long it took Kirk to paint mosaics on those risers so he could impress you guys.
HA! That was funny! :biglaugh:
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Kirk, I really like the profile of the limbs as they bend.
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Sounds like the orders are starting to come in on this and his other bows!
Avoid the rush and get an order in... 6 months will fly by and you'll have fun after it's placed going thru details on cosmetics and such... I know I did.
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Good tip Doc. I'll keep that in mind.
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First it's "Stitching".... then i'm accused of painting the dots on those risers by brutha Steve..... and Doc attributes it to my "autistic" nature :eek:
You guys really know how to flatter an old carpenter here....
This is the one that Doc didn't like.... I thought it came out looking kinda cool myself. This was a tough one to pull off doing an overlay back over the G-10 I beam.... That and Mark shoots long distance with this bow and wanted a taller sight window. That's why you see the I-beam at the bottom of the shelf peeking out.
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(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Mark%20lipman%20Sas/Finished2.jpg)
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Sweet....yeah, Kirk, we're a "tough crowd to play to!"
I didn't say I didn't LIKE IT, I just said it didn't flip my trigger like 99% of your work. Visually, it looked a lot more RED than that in the early pics I saw... the Mexican Rosewood (?) and the Mexican style look of the redish mosaics...
To be honest, if I knew you could cover up the black G-10, on the riser window...I'd have given that more serious consideration... that is pretty awesome looking...
Bottom line for me in making my decision to go with a Bigfoot was the performance factors and your desire to study and address my personal grip issues...
...what I found in the process, after making my deposit and during my wait time, was your true artistry with wood and combinations that just make the varied woods work together so well and "sing a song!"
I am really intrigued by your new "shortie" bows, but could not be happier with the Sassy Lady I now have! Stellar looks and outstanding performance--and it fits my odd shooting style and grip!
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Excellent job Bro Kirk. and here I thought I was the only one ever done that. Perfect alignment and just looks great. I noticed the G10 going up into the window and thought that was kind of cool but didn't hit mewhat you had done. LOL
I like the way you capped the ned of that riser. but what you doing hiding all that pretty black phenolic?
God bless and Merry Christmas.
Man I love everything about those bows. Just fantastic.You really got it going on with all them curves. No full blooded male should be able to resist them. Some will probably start sleeping with their bows.
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Really liking the artistry and creativity of Kirks work. Will have to think more about this temptation.
Merry Christmas.
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Ryan,
Get that deposit in and you'll likely have it before the 4th of July celebration!
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Originally posted by RLA:
Nice! I'll take my Yeti 52" 55#@27" Bocote & G-10 riser, black glass limbs. Yea the temptation is killing me also.
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Bocote? Did you say Bocote?
Oh you are going to like this Ryan..... lookie what i just purchased.... Ive got one of these blocks spoken for already, but could very easily put your name on one.....
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Wood%202012/In%20Stock%20iser%20blocks/Bocote4.jpg)
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ouuhhhhhh...I know which one or which 2 I'd pick from.
:)
The swirly stuff doesn't come around every day!
He who hesitates... :smileystooges:
I don't usually have great luck, but I did when I got the bocote block I did! Timing is everything after all!
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That will make beauties!
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What is G 10? Is it a kind of phenolic?
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G 10 is a commercial phenolic that is composed of fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin instead of linin and poly resin or paper and poly resin. It is extremely strong and basicaly a solid piece of glass. It is a killer of bandsaw blades and usually you get one riser per band saw blade if lucky; Its a major step toward building an indestructable riser. It really speaks to the commitment of the bowyer that uses it towards building an heirloom type of bow .
God bless and Merry Christmas.
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Originally posted by Doc Nock:
ouuhhhhhh...I know which one or which 2 I'd pick from.
:)
The swirly stuff doesn't come around every day!
He who hesitates... :smileystooges:
I don't usually have great luck, but I did when I got the bocote block I did! Timing is everything after all!
I'd bet if you are judging a book the book its cover you'd pick the wrong one bro... I'd say the center block will provide the wildest grain pattern on a finished riser....
believe it or not, you can alter the way these come out with very slight shape changes in the grip shape..... it's like peeling an onion in a way.... take a good look at the edge grain on the center block.... that tells the story more so than the flat grain does.
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Ok, Yosemite Sam, ya Smarty pants!!!
LOL All I know is what I see... can't tell in those cropped shots what flat or edge grain...just see swirl and you know me... I like grain! Not straight but as crooked as a politician! Ooops...guess that was political, eh? :(
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm292/DavidLandis/Big%20foot/SANY0049.jpg)
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Does that G 10 material have a grain like linen phenolic? And can it be made into a solid riser? Do you think a riser could be cut further past center using it?
thanks,
Chris.
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Kirk I nominate that Mac bow for bow of the year if it shoots as good as she looks.
If you are talking about the top row of wood I would take the wood on the right if I was buying it for a riser. Of course it would depend on how you shaped the riser. If you do a bunch of rounding then the middle block may be the ticket. Its all top grade , hard to get stuff though.
God bless,
Steve
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Cudos to Sixby and Kirk for their never ending research and development. That is not cheap. But more importantly the respect they show for one another by working together and sharing their finds. Trad shooters are lucky to have many fine bow makers to choose from, but surely these two are among the cream to have come to the top!
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Originally posted by cch:
Does that G 10 material have a grain like linen phenolic? And can it be made into a solid riser? Do you think a riser could be cut further past center using it?
thanks,
Chris.
Yes it does have a grain. Just like fiberglass does. here is a factory description.
GAROLITE GLASS-EPOXY BASED LAMINATE
Thermosetting industrial laminate consisting of a continuous filament glass cloth material with an epoxy resin binder. It has characteristics of high strength, excellent electrical properties and chemical resistance not only at room temperature but also under humid or moist conditions.
I have also laminated these sheets into solid G-10 risers using epoxy with excellent results.
Unfortunately the stuff is expensive. But... if you want an indestructible riser with higher mass weight in your bow. you cannot beat this stuff.
I have yet to have someone order this in a Sasquatch or Yeti riser style. But here are a couple solid G-10 risers in Flatliner design.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/G-10%20Classic%20riser/SANY0002.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/IMAG0232.jpg)
Do you think a riser could be cut further past center using it?
thanks,
Absolutely..... But... Getting a riser cut too far past center shooting off the shelf is a waste of time. IMO..... For sure... you can definitely shoot a wider range of spine stiffness and still get fairly decent arrow flight. But if you spend time tuning your arrows properly just a wee bit on the weak side for carbon shafts. 9 times out of 10 you'll end up padding your shelf right back out to center again..... So unless you plan on using a plunger, or an elevated rest. i see no advantage to cutting my shelves 3/16" past center.
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I had a riser cut 3/16" past center. I thought it was cool that out of a 54# bow, I was shooting 80# spine arrows... but I kept seeing this odd "tailing" on shots periodically.
In speaking with another bowyer who did a lot of testing on shooting, he claimed that, when shooting with fingersanything from center to past center means that the release will have a degree of "inconsistency" in it and the arrow, on any given release, "may not know which way to paradox" and show erratic flight.
I padded that riser out to just a bit shy of center and eliminated all the hooey!
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I was thinking of an ILF riser drilled for elevated rest. Kirk have you made an ILF riser yet?
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G-10 riser for the extra mass in the short handled Yeti with black glass limbs sounds perfect, a stealth bow for hunting in the shadows of pop-ups and ground blinds.
That figured G-10 looks good.
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RLA,
Looks like congrats are in order! Eat an elephant one bite at a time... forgo sodas, few nice lunches out, eases the pain of it all.
Lifetime investment in a quality tool that looks like art!
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Lifetime investment in a quality tool that looks like art!
Wow! The bow on the left looks like ebony or wenge. Had no idea G 10 could take on such grain.
Congrats Ryan! You won't be dissapointed.
CB
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Great talking with you today Ryan. :thumbsup: Your new Yeti will be marked #004
The bow on the left IS Ebony... LOL ...but i suppose i could paint some grain on one for you Gery. or maybe some lightning bolts would look cool.
So Kieth... You liking your Flatliner?
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Kirk,
After going through a pile of bows this year your bow was the only bow to surpass my longstanding goto bow. These are what make this journey worth it, at least financially!
I think you missed my post, but a few days ago I gave a testimonial.
Kudos Brother Kirk!
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=123540
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Kirk it was a pleasure speaking with you, I'm pretty fired up about this bow!
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Well here are a couple young brothers who came to pick up their new bows today. i got a little film clip of them shooting here.
Ben is the one with the blue shirt. He is drawing 52 pounds at 24.5". His Brother Conner with the Wenge/Walnut riser bow is drawing 60# at 24.5" and hasn't shot that weight of a bow before this. He's a weight lifter that wanted something heavier this time. LOL i think he's going to have to work out with her a bit to get a handle on that creep....
http://youtu.be/xHeViSQ1bWg
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/IMAG0500.jpg)
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Kirk have you ever made an ILF riser?
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Originally posted by cch: Kirk have you ever made an ILF riser?
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I built one for a good friend of mine about a year ago using G-10 & Canary wood with a custom shaped grip.
With all good intentions, i had planned on building more of them. I really think i need to slim the riser down and make it more sleek looking than the first one here, but i never found the extra time to get into it.
I suppose I'll get a commission to build another one eventually and get back into building more. I'd like to work on a style similar to this that is a bit less bulk..... this would be a good candidate for a solid G-10 riser.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bow%20building/ILF%20Risers/SANY0003.jpg)
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Kirk, Tell the Brother in the first pic to drop his elbow a bit and he will gain about a half to 3/4 in draw. The boy in the second pic has super good form. It is so neat that you are mentoring these young people and encouraging them like you are. God will surely bless you for that. I bet you will never have to worry about these kids getting into drugs ect and that they will become dedicated , great people and in great part just because someone cared.
Man that canary wood looks really cool . I like that riser just like it is. Steve
God bless you and Merry Christmas, Steve
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So many choices, Kirk...so little money and time!
Grrrr!
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I can see a Sasquatch recurve or the new SS in my future.
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I guess i could have shown a picture of the boys finished bows.... These are both 52" and are tightly strung at 6.5" brace.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/IMAG0497.jpg)
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Hey Steve... can you spot which one has the tip wedge? THAT was just the ticket bro...Thanks for the "Tip".....That pushed her into the high performance zone for certain. :jumper:
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Man, those sure look sweet! Look like real good shooters too. Well done Kirk. What are the woods in that dark riser?
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Wenge with a Black walnut crotch footing and blood wood accents. i took these photos with my phone and they were not very clear... here's a better photo showing the footing.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/TD%20Yeti%20RC/IMAG0455.jpg)
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I had a riser like that...with only ONE limb!
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Sorry, there, Kirk...just seeing that riser that way brought back some 15 yr old sad memories...
That is one stunning riser... you sure do come up with the neatest wood combos... So is that curved inset called a "footing?"
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Where the boys are shooting the bows it looks like the dark bow has the tip wedge. However the string angle is really great on both bows. In the pics of the two bows on the last page it looks like the maple bow has the tip wedge from the pics. Honestly I don't know from the pics but looking at the drawn bows I would say the dark bow. Probably wrong though;. LOL
God bless and Merry Christmas to you all,. Steve
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Sweet looking, beautiful footed risers,
man look at those string angles at full draw.
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Ok Steve.... If i told you the darker bow was 10 pounds heavier would that make a difference?
Yup.... definitely footed risers. the string angle is deceiving on these guys bows. They are only drawing 24.5"..... then again.... they are braced with a serious preload at 6.5" too.
When i build these for longer draw lengths, the brace height may vary well be longer... I've still got to get the 54" & 56" limbs going and play with some different riser lengths to have any specs..... i did get some unbelievable numbers out of these two bows on the chronograph....
So i'm not going to post them... LOL
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I would think even a 54" for 28" draw or a 56" for a 29" draw would still tickle the bejabbers outa most of us! Especially with the performance I know you pack in your limb designs before you let them outa the door!
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" i did get some unbelievable numbers out of these two bows on the chronograph.... So i'm not going to post them... LOL"
You tease you.
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Katman,
Likely a smart thing...have you seen responses when someone posts speeds from a Chronograph!? :rolleyes: :scared:
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Oh I hear you there Dave. It can get bad.
Definitely anxiously awaiting the longer draw version.
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Let's bring this one back to the top for some outstanding little bows.
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I'm sure if Kirk would stick a broom somewhere unattractive, being a one-man band now, he could sweep, build current customer bows, test new designs, feed the dog, test till he went blind or needed glasses and generally do it all even quicker.
Alas, I hear tell he doesn't like to sweep. :saywhat:
I don't know how these guys do it who are FT bowyers working alone... When you consider the cost of material alone, then the R&D time, building, hitting weight, finishing and shipping, let alone chit-chat with customers to help folks decide "what"... I'd think they'd likely meet themselves coming when going.
but we surely are the winners in the end! :bigsmyl:
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Kirk, do you have a target date to start working on the long bow limbs?
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It will most likely be February before i have time to lay up any Yeti long bow limbs. Might even be March....
I've got this static tip recurve called the "Sasquatch SS" I've already got the forms built for, and i'm dying to lay up limbs ... that project will come first.... at least i have the bugs worked out of the geometry on that one.... I'll be almost starting from scratch on the Yeti LB limbs, and that takes time. Kirk
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Thanks for the update, good things come to those who wait.
How is that SS shaping up?
I need to get on your build list to reserve some of that black myrtle for my next custom Bigfoot, Christmas poor right now.
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Beautiful. You can never go wrong with a Bigfoot bow.
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Drool drool, gorgeous, enjoy!
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Wow.
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I would love to see a bolevian rosewood with purpleheart accent..... perhaps one is in my future :-)
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I did not see the yeti recurve on the website?
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It should be there tomorrow Ryan. i'll be interested to hear what you think of her....
Kirk.
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