Well guys, I've purchased , my first recurve as of last night thanks to the "big auction" website. I've been looking for about 2 weeks now trying to be patient; I've gone from many makes and models. I put in a bid and went to bed, I figured if it was meant to be, it will happen. I woke up this morning with an email stating I won! :jumper:
Not sure if I got a good deal, or if I was even ripped off; lol. I bought a 58" Ben Pearson Mustang 45#@28". It has a beautiful color tone to the wood and a pretty gnarly knot in the wood on the riser, Kind of what drawn me to it. Not sure how old, or what kind of wood it is... But I plan on researching all of these things once I get it. For now, I'm researching what length string I need and what kind? How many twist , what material, etc... The trad stuff is all new to me. With that said, does anyone know where I can get string made? I'd rather find someone who can custom make one instead of buying something over seas or even a major company. Also got to get a bow stringer and I assume I'm going to start with a tab instead of a glove. Then the crazy science behind choosing a arrow...
Any help would be greatly appreciated for the above questions! Again, I appreciate everyone's help on this site and am thankful I have you guys to constantly nag and ask questions! Lol. I plan to shoot all this off season so I'm ready to go by next fall. I also want to start shooting on 3D ranges, something I never did with the compound. If I'm lucky, I might be descent enough to take the 'ole stick and string for a spring turkey hunt this april! :archer2:
Thanks again guys & God Bless
Well there are several string makers listed in the Sponcers drop down screen. All will do a great job and know how to fix you up with one that works for ya. Also 3 rivrs could set you up with a tab, stringer and armqurd. Next for the arrow a draw lenght will need to be determined. The best way it to hold a yard stick in the middle of your chest and place your hands on the stick as far out as you can confortly reach and that finger tip distance will be close to your draw. From that a proper arrow will be easier to ascertain. Next do you want to shoot Carbon, aluminum or Wood?
Shoot, shoot, shoot! Don't worry about getting everything perfect (except your form!)
I learned to shoot on the ugliest bow I've ever seen, an old orange bow made entirely of fiberglass for bowfishing (I got it for free and used a leather work glove for a tab). Everyone who saw me shoot it laughed, but because the bow was so crummy I didn't stress too much over where the arrows landed, just worked and worked on getting my form right.
When I wasn't shooting, I was visualizing myself shooting. Practicing just staring at a pinpoint, so that when it was time to shoot I could focus and follow through.
Still have plenty to learn... but I think it helped to start out with so little and not get hung up on having the "best" or "perfect" set up.
And HAVE FUN!
Do you have any arrows that will work with the bow?
just what Sarah said. good luck with it!
Also as stated above real tuning will not be possible until your form is consistant. Also do yourself a favor and get your target set up chest high to start with to prevent all kinds of bad habits starting out.
Congrats, I watched that bow, wanted it bad, but needed a 50-55#'er. That's a nice looking bow, hope you enjoy it much!
Dan
Thanks guys, Currently no I have no arrows. As for what to start with I don't know, eventually I would like to shoot wood, but I hear theres all kinds of head aches with that. I've read that carbon is best to start out with outside of all aluminum, Unfortuantly I'm not big on aluminum.
I definatly am/going to shoot as much as possible before I go crazy getting the "best". lol, but before I do that I need the "basics" to even shoot. I just have a thing about strings and want that other then anything else on the bow, to be descent before I start. I will definatly look through the classifieds, thanks Chris. On draw length, when I shot compund (including this archery season) I was at 28" with a back tension release where is was right next to my anchor point. I'm not saying I will be exactly there with a recurve, but I imagine pretty close since it wasn't a long release... Is it safe to assume this for now? Lastly, I hear everyone talk about form, with out reading a couple hundred page book for now, is there a short thread/picture/video/ etc on this? I'm assuming its different then my form with a compound? Thanks again guys, keep the info coming!
QuoteOriginally posted by WhiteBeard121:
Congrats, I watched that bow, wanted it bad, but needed a 50-55#'er. That's a nice looking bow, hope you enjoy it much!
Dan
haha, thanks Dan... It reassures me knowing someone who knows what their doing was looking at the same bow... I was pretty clueless and skeptical about buying off there because one not shooting it and not being able to see the limb twist on it...
It was between 3, that one, another Bear Grizzley in zebra wood, or a used one on RMSG.
All kinds of headaches with wood??? News to me. But I've only been using it for about 50 years. Nothing much simpler really than a wooden arrow. People want to make things waaaay too complicated these days. Too me what's complicated is all this foc, efoc stuff with carbon arrows in order to get decent flight. (Actually I don't find them very complicated either). When I started in archery all there was for anybody to shoot was basically wood. I remember seeing my first aluminum arrow. :rolleyes: If you like the idea of wood go ahead and try some.
10 4 David,
I really do like the idea of wood arrows. I just might give them a go! How do they hold up when "stumping" or would I not want to use them for that? Would you happen to reccomend any for me? Thanks
Where are you at in FL? If near Delray Beach give me a holler, alot of us usually meet up on Saturdays and shoot at our local range, would love to have you along :)
Also, check in here for form tips, required reading when just starting out :)
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=6
Look at 3 Rivers for a wood test kit. I love wood arrows and I have destroyed more than a few carbons stump shooting too ;)
Does the bow come with a string? If so any of the string makers here will tell you how they want you measure for a new one.
Congrats on the purchase!
QuoteOriginally posted by JohnnyWayne:
Where are you at in FL? If near Delray Beach give me a holler, alot of us usually meet up on Saturdays and shoot at our local range, would love to have you along :)
Also, check in here for form tips, required reading when just starting out :)
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=6
Hey Johnny that would be awesome! I live in Vero beach currently, not sure how close/far that is to there. If not too far, I would love to meet up with some of you to shoot.
QuoteOriginally posted by Marc B.:
Look at 3 Rivers for a wood test kit. I love wood arrows and I have destroyed more than a few carbons stump shooting too ;)
Does the bow come with a string? If so any of the string makers here will tell you how they want you measure for a new one.
Congrats on the purchase!
thanks Marc I was just looking at that, I'm thinking thats the one to go with!
[/qb][/QUOTE]Hey Johnny that would be awesome! I live in Vero beach currently, not sure how close/far that is to there. If not too far, I would love to meet up with some of you to shoot. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Vero beach?! I lived there for a while. I was actually just there for thanksgiving for a couple days, I have family down there. Make sure you check out TBOF, they have an even in January that should be a lot of fun.
Also watch the calssifieds on here for arrows, you can get some awesome deals from these guys!
I've never shot wood, but would like to try. I have shot carbons and alums and I recommend aluminum over carbons mainly bc of durability. I shoot A LOT and in my experience the aluminums will take a lot more abuse than carbons. but tha's just what I've experienced. Good Luck!
QuoteHey Johnny that would be awesome! I live in Vero beach currently, not sure how close/far that is to there. If not too far, I would love to meet up with some of you to shoot.
Vero is a bit of a hike, I have an aunt that lives up there and it's probably about an hour to an hour and a half drive but you're more than welcome to come on down :)
I think there's some clubs closer up in Indian River somewhere but I haven't been to them, try dropping a line in the Florida forum in the states section near the bottom of the homepage if you want to save some money in gas ;)
Or just give me a holler and I'll tell you how to get to where we are :)
QuoteOriginally posted by BigBucksnTrucks:
Hey Johnny that would be awesome! I live in Vero beach currently, not sure how close/far that is to there. If not too far, I would love to meet up with some of you to shoot. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Vero beach?! I lived there for a while. I was actually just there for thanksgiving for a couple days, I have family down there. Make sure you check out TBOF, they have an even in January that should be a lot of fun.
Also watch the calssifieds on here for arrows, you can get some awesome deals from these guys!
I've never shot wood, but would like to try. I have shot carbons and alums and I recommend aluminum over carbons mainly bc of durability. I shoot A LOT and in my experience the aluminums will take a lot more abuse than carbons. but tha's just what I've experienced. Good Luck! [/QB][/QUOTE]
haha, yea just moved here for a job... trying to get back around Ocala area... I know they do a TBOF get together there at a FWC camp because I use to work there as a saftey intsructor.
I'm having a little trouble with the kits for wood. As in which group to choose... A, B, or C... Any one help with that?
QuoteOriginally posted by JohnnyWayne:
QuoteHey Johnny that would be awesome! I live in Vero beach currently, not sure how close/far that is to there. If not too far, I would love to meet up with some of you to shoot.
Vero is a bit of a hike, I have an aunt that lives up there and it's probably about an hour to an hour and a half drive but you're more than welcome to come on down :)
I think there's some clubs closer up in Indian River somewhere but I haven't been to them, try dropping a line in the Florida forum in the states section near the bottom of the homepage if you want to save some money in gas ;)
Or just give me a holler and I'll tell you how to get to where we are :) [/b]
10 4, maybe once I get a hang of things I'll take a trip down there and shoot. Do you guys have a 3D range we could all spend a day on?
OK, Jake, let me take a stab at answering your question about which test kit to choose--you say the bow draws 45#@28" and that your draw with a compound was 28" with back tension release. Most compound shooters will lose about an inch in draw at least going to a traditional bow, so I'm gonna' guess your draw will be around 27" on the recurve. That will put your draw eight at about 42-43# (you generally drop about 2-3# of draw weight for each inch below 28" of marked weight at 28"). So you definitely want to go with Test Kit A which is two arrows each of spines that range between 35-55#. That should easily put you in the ball park even if you wind up pulling the bow to the 28" mark.
I have great results shooting woods for stumping. Sure you're going to bust one from time to time, but that's all part of it. You bend and break carbons too. :D But they don't smell nearly as good as Port Orford cedar does. That sweet smell of cedar makes breaking one a whole lot less painful. :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by David Mitchell:
OK, Jake, let me take a stab at answering your question about which test kit to choose--you say the bow draws 45#@28" and that your draw with a compound was 28" with back tension release. Most compound shooters will lose about an inch in draw at least going to a traditional bow, so I'm gonna' guess your draw will be around 27" on the recurve. That will put your draw eight at about 42-43# (you generally drop about 2-3# of draw weight for each inch below 28" of marked weight at 28"). So you definitely want to go with Test Kit A which is two arrows each of spines that range between 35-55#. That should easily put you in the ball park even if you wind up pulling the bow to the 28" mark.
I have great results shooting woods for stumping. Sure you're going to bust one from time to time, but that's all part of it. You bend and break carbons too. :D But they don't smell nearly as good as Port Orford cedar does. That sweet smell of cedar makes breaking one a whole lot less painful. :thumbsup:
haha, David this is very true about Carbon breaking. I think I'm sold on woodies for now. As soon as I get the bow in hand, I'm going to double check my DL and get a arrow length and go ahead and order some arrows. I myself thought kit B would be better, but not only did you agree with the A, but I had called a associate at 3 Rivers about a hour ago and he too said kit A seemed to be the better choice.
I'm pretty stoked and can't wait to start shooting! Last thing I'm lookin into is about form, just reading on what I should be striving for when shooting. When I shot with "training wheels"not to brag, but I considered muself to have pretty good form.
Thanks again David,looks like I'll go with A!
Yeah man, full range, target buttes out to 80 yards and full 3d's around the corner, it's a lot of fun :)
QuoteOriginally posted by JohnnyWayne:
Yeah man, full range, target buttes out to 80 yards and full 3d's around the corner, it's a lot of fun :)
Hey man that sounds like a fun day of shootin, I'll definatly keep you in mind. Possibly after deer season is over and I have a few months of shooting under me? Lets say sometime in Feb.?
Most compound shooters I have watched have really good form, you should do fine with a little practice and some buddies to shoot with.
QuoteHey man that sounds like a fun day of shootin, I'll definatly keep you in mind. Possibly after deer season is over and I have a few months of shooting under me? Lets say sometime in Feb.?
Sure thing, just holler when ready :thumbsup:
Thanks Bjorn, thats reassuring hearing that... Johnny will do bud.
Thanks guys
QuoteOriginally posted by Bjorn:
Most compound shooters I have watched have really good form, you should do fine with a little practice and some buddies to shoot with.
QuoteOriginally posted by edge2009:
Thanks Bjorn, thats reassuring hearing that... Johnny will do bud.
Thanks guys
I pretty recently made the switch also. And though I agree with Bjorn, let me tell you... Having great form with a compund and maintaining great form with zero let off and no wall, are two very different things. :)
Enjoy!
QuoteOriginally posted by Monteria:
QuoteOriginally posted by Bjorn:
Most compound shooters I have watched have really good form, you should do fine with a little practice and some buddies to shoot with.
QuoteOriginally posted by edge2009:
Thanks Bjorn, thats reassuring hearing that... Johnny will do bud.
Thanks guys
I pretty recently made the switch also. And though I agree with Bjorn, let me tell you... Having great form with a compund and maintaining great form with zero let off and no wall, are two very different things. :)
Enjoy! [/b]
Yea I figured so, hopefully with the lower poundage I won't have to hard of a time with form... I think the challenge for me will being able to have that "flow" like draw.
Thanks for the info though!
One thing that took me a little bit to learn: An arrow is like a bullet that sometimes, God decides to give you back. Look diligently for lost arrows, but don't obsess over them. Celebrate the broken ones for the good times they gave you and the pretty new ones that will replace them.
QuoteOriginally posted by Forrest Halley:
One thing that took me a little bit to learn: An arrow is like a bullet that sometimes, God decides to give you back. Look diligently for lost arrows, but don't obsess over them. Celebrate the broken ones for the good times they gave you and the pretty new ones that will replace them.
lol, so you gave me advice on what to say/how to feel about the broke arrows. But what do I say/how do I feel torwards my wallet!!! :knothead: :laughing:
Brother I can't help ya there. I had a harder time leaving an arrow than buying new ones. I'd look to the point of exhaustion. 3d was a heartache for me until I started refining my accuracy by stumping. At least stumping heads tend not to bury themselves underground without a trench to follow. Most ridiculous 3d memory was missing a not so small elevated target with my heavy recurve. The arrow sailed over the target by a foot and through the tree tops. I might never have found it except several archers described hearing a "freight train" going through the treetops and slam into a tree about a hundred yards away and fall down. Found it leaning against a tree plain as day in some of the thickest foliage you've ever seen. Sometimes, God gives them back. I made sure to give thanks that day because there was just no way I found it on my own. I was having an off day and was talked into taking the shot and it all worked out in the end.
QuoteOriginally posted by Forrest Halley:
Brother I can't help ya there. I had a harder time leaving an arrow than buying new ones. I'd look to the point of exhaustion. 3d was a heartache for me until I started refining my accuracy by stumping. At least stumping heads tend not to bury themselves underground without a trench to follow. Most ridiculous 3d memory was missing a not so small elevated target with my heavy recurve. The arrow sailed over the target by a foot and through the tree tops. I might never have found it except several archers described hearing a "freight train" going through the treetops and slam into a tree about a hundred yards away and fall down. Found it leaning against a tree plain as day in some of the thickest foliage you've ever seen. Sometimes, God gives them back. I made sure to give thanks that day because there was just no way I found it on my own. I was having an off day and was talked into taking the shot and it all worked out in the end.
I do beleive I would have framed that arrow along with a picture of the 3D target... I imagine it would make a even better story in person, lol. I do agree with you there, I've spent countless HOURS looking for lost arrows... Now that I'm taking the leap into the "stick" world, I imagine I'll feel a little more "upset" about lossing them. Like you said, take it as the Lord gives em.