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Title: Piebald deer (pic)
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on November 23, 2012, 10:33:00 PM
I thought I would share a picture of a piebald deer I took in South Carolina. Pretty neat. Have any of you seen a piebald in the wild?

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy25/longbowfanatic_1234/226.jpg)
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Post by: YORNOC on November 23, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
Awesome. We did see one in Smithfield RI one winter. Took us by surprise!
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Post by: BRITTMAN on November 23, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
My brother in law killed a 8 point piebald on our land a couple of years ago
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Post by: Cory Mattson on November 23, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
Great picture  - yes I have seen them we have a few around here - it always takes my eyes a second to adjust - I have not always recognized them as deer right off ?! ridiculous I know - what else would they be  :)
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Post by: wapitirod on November 23, 2012, 10:41:00 PM
I saw a yealing blacktail spike about 4yrs ago, the only one I've ever seen.
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Post by: Cwilder on November 23, 2012, 10:43:00 PM
I have killed two and have seen a few others.  
One Lil 7pt with compound bare bow
A doe with muzz. Wish I was older when I got them I would love to have had them full body mounted now. But I have them both shoulder mounted
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Post by: soy on November 23, 2012, 10:44:00 PM
That sure is cool looking... I have yet to see 1 in the wild ,but it sure is neet seeing pictures
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Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on November 23, 2012, 10:49:00 PM
Here is another pic from a little different angle.

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy25/longbowfanatic_1234/223.jpg)
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Post by: Richie on November 23, 2012, 11:42:00 PM
Very cool   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Hopewell Tom on November 24, 2012, 04:43:00 AM
They are pretty unique.
My cousin shot one a number of years ago and in the late 70's when working for Scott Paper, I jumped a 6 pointer while working. Right out in the middle of a raspberry infested clear cut at 2PM.
I didn't know what I was looking at, first I'd ever heard of/seen.
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Post by: T Lail on November 24, 2012, 06:33:00 AM
I have harvested a piebald doe and a seven pointer off of the same farm......have not seen anymore since those two....one was in 2003, the other one 2007....  :dunno:
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Post by: 30coupe on November 24, 2012, 06:58:00 AM
We have some, but we can't shoot them...albinos either. Some idiot legislator got a law passed that an albino or at least 50 percent white deer should be protected. The racist!
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Post by: Shakes.602 on November 24, 2012, 07:23:00 AM
30coupe I agree about Idiot Legislators! Now the "protected" will either Starve or Die some horrible Death from overcrowding and Disease. Makes ya wonder HOW they come up with their Educated Decisions, ya know?
 He must be one of "them thar College Gradyutes". No Offense to the College Graduates here.
 The scary part is, those Idiots are Running the Country...... Right into the Ground!! Sad, its just plain Sad.
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Post by: Cherokee Scout on November 24, 2012, 07:50:00 AM
I have seen several. I killed a small piebald buck with a Bear Cheyenne a few years ago.
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Post by: mikebiz on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 AM
I saw one here in NJ the other day.  She was grazing with a normally pelaged doe.  Face had a lot of extra white around the muzzle and eyes.  From the rear legs back was all white.  So were the lower legs near the hooves.  Pretty cool looking.  This was in southern NJ about 20 minutes west of Atlantic City.  When I lived and hunted in northern NJ where Whitetails are overabundant I saw this mutation a few more times.  

My personal opinion is that they should be fair game just like any other deer.  Protecting a genetic mutation really makes no sense.  Now you might think that something so bright would stand out from the crowd and become coyote dinner pretty quick, right?  I hunted a private property a few years back in North Jersey.  It was a management hunt and one of the guys saw a pure white fawn.  We decided to leave it off limits just to see how long it would last.  I think she made it at least 10 years, but I don't hunt there anymore and lost touch with the other guys.  Pretty amazing.  Looked like a freakin' ghost coming through the woods.
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Post by: SELFBOW19953 on November 24, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
We have a couple on our lease.  I've seen them before the season and at night during the season-they look like ghosts at night standing in the field, especially with a full moon-but never when hunting.
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Post by: cahaba on November 24, 2012, 09:11:00 AM
I have seen one in 46 years.
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Post by: on November 24, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
I have only seen pics. That is very cool. I am not sure if I could shoot that one or not?

Bisch
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Post by: Duker on November 24, 2012, 10:08:00 AM
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Post by: frassettor on November 24, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
I was fortunate enough to harvest one this fall.
They are defintaly neat. I took it tio the taxidermist to have it tanned.

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/frassettor/177.jpg)
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/frassettor/178.jpg)
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Post by: Terry Lightle on November 24, 2012, 10:58:00 AM
Have seen a piebald doe twice so far behind our cabin.Just do not want to shoot her.Guess I have too much Cherokee in me.
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Post by: 4 point on November 24, 2012, 11:12:00 AM
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss101/blackfeather48/P8030218.jpg)
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Post by: Mojostick on November 24, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
Biologists often suggest that hunters take piebalds, as opposed to protecting them.

Old laws written to protect the genetically inferior piebalds were based on misguided emotions. Many piebald protection laws have already been overturned. Piebalds are nothing to be desired in a wild deer herd.

Often, deer biologists see piebald concentrations as more of a warning sign of overpopulation, than anything else.

Plus, on the grill, they're all medium rare pink anyhow.     ;)
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Post by: Keith Zimmerman on November 24, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
Got one on my trail camera in MD this fall.
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Post by: Burnsie on November 24, 2012, 11:35:00 AM
I've seen an albino
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Post by: jonsimoneau on November 24, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
Had a piebald buck offer me a gimmie shot years ago. He had a big white bullseye right in the kill zone. Somewhere I also have a trail camera photo of a B&C albino buck. Albino deer are protected in Illinois.
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Post by: Liquid Amber on November 24, 2012, 04:56:00 PM
I've seen six in two different places, missed one with bow, killed one with bow and one with gun.  But, I've not seen one since...22 years ago.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh338/spikeknife/piebalddoe.jpg)

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh338/spikeknife/piebaldbuck.jpg)
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Post by: superkodiak on November 24, 2012, 07:42:00 PM
saw one the last week of archery season here in PA...
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Post by: pamike on November 24, 2012, 09:29:00 PM
thought it was bad luck to shoot them.....
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Post by: eagleone on November 24, 2012, 09:52:00 PM
Beautiful- I've seen a few and they are striking critters for sure!
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Post by: koger on November 24, 2012, 11:15:00 PM
My wife shot one Monday, 90% +white 3 pt, last day of rifle season here in KY, on my farm, soybean field. She was more excited than if she had killed a monster buck.
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on November 25, 2012, 01:59:00 AM
Thats pretty cool stuff.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Hoyt on November 25, 2012, 09:55:00 AM
I killed a small 5pt and missed a good 8pt or so close to Augusta, Ga. back in the 70's. Only two I've seen in the woods.
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on November 25, 2012, 10:02:00 AM
I see one often in NY off the NYS thruway.  She is striking.  If shes the same one seen year after year, she must be 7 years old by now.
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Post by: gregg dudley on November 25, 2012, 10:09:00 AM
I have never seen one in the woods, but I have seen two at various processors over the years.  I saw one that a guy killed near Eufaula, Alabama a dozen or so years ago that was a real oddball.  Besides being piebald it was also stunted in growth.  The legs were short and it had an exagerated Roman nose.  But there was nothing stunted about the 8 point rack on its head.
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Post by: owlbait on November 25, 2012, 11:32:00 AM
Really neat animals. I've been lucky enough to see 3 over the years. One that was all white from the shoulders and hips down with a white crown on top of his head. He had a 5 pt rack. Another in the same area sported the same white legs and hips, but no crown and was a doe. Best one I saw was in Ohio that had the big blotches and several smaller patches. Passed out of range twice on my hunt down there. Michigan recently changed the rules and now allows us to shot albino and white deer. I greee, they should not be protected, and I haven't seen any that were any easier to kill than "normal" deer.
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Post by: Dsturgisjr on November 25, 2012, 12:10:00 PM
I shot one years ago and wrote a story about it in TBM. It was 2 1/2 years old.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Dsturgisjr/IPIEBALD.jpg)
This picture is with my oldest son, John. He is 23 now.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Dsturgisjr/Ipiebaldw-John.jpg)

We had another piebald on a farm I hunt last year. I took a few pics of it as a button buck. We saw it during early doe season but not since. It was a forkhorn this year.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Dsturgisjr/Ipiebald.jpg)
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Dsturgisjr/Ipiebald2.jpg)
I took this picture of another mottled piebald during the rut this year. It looks like she has a dusting of snow on her back. Really cool animals.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Dsturgisjr/IPiebald12.jpg)
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Post by: HawkeyeArcher on November 25, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
So cool looking, hope to see one someday! Illegal to shoot one here though.