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Title: yesterday was a Blacktail day (buck & bow)
Post by: Tree Killer on November 21, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
Been trying to kill one of the bucks behind my house, but after a big rain and wind storm blew through the northwest Monday I decided to go up in the higher country and look at some new real estate.

I'd cut timber in this area a few years ago, and remember when the snow came it was like a funnel for deer baling out of the high country. The roadside willows had been getting thrashed by the bucks, which is always a good sign!

I finally located some big timber that I wanted to hunt, grabbed my bow, rattlers, and worked my way up a ridge.  I'd worked the antlers in two areas without a response, but the third spot I stopped to rattle I could see a deer working it's way toward me through the timber. I could see it was a small buck, which was good enough for me!

After a few minutes the buck had come to within 30 yds, but stopped and seemed nervous. Then the buck began moving around to my left staying just out of my effective range. I was wondering if he had caught wind of me, but he stopped and looked back and seemed to be looking through me. As i turned my head I spotted this bigger buck which had come in behind and to my right.

The bigger buck saw me move, but seemed more occupied with what the little buck was doing. He started to circle out in front of me and when he came out from behind a big doug fir at a little over 15 yds I drew and released. The buck took off toward the small buck, then made a U turn and ran back the direction he had come from. After a 50 yd sprint he stopped, staggered a little and tipped over.

I chose to drag him back to the truck instead of retrieving my packboard, a big mistake! The drag out just about kicked my butt!     :knothead:

After not filling my elk tag this year I was really happy to get this buck.     :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/treekiller/trophy%20photos/2012buck1.jpg)
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Post by: rastaman on November 21, 2012, 09:50:00 AM
Very nice deer sir! Congrats!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: wildgame on November 21, 2012, 09:51:00 AM
Congrats, that's one I want to get a chance at some day!
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Post by: lt-m-grow on November 21, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
Wow .  Beautiful buck.

BUT...that picture should be on a magazine cover.  I am sure you know as it is an exceptional shot.  I just wanted you to know I appreciated the artwork of the photo effort too.

Well done. And Well done...thanks for sharing...
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Post by: tracker1 on November 21, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
That is a very nice buck.  Thanks for taking us along on your hunt.
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Post by: varmint101 on November 21, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
Awesome buck, congrats!
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Post by: Warren Cowen on November 21, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
Nice deer...
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Post by: ti-guy on November 21, 2012, 10:19:00 AM
Nice buck!  :thumbsup:    :clapper:
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Post by: Oldskool2 on November 21, 2012, 10:19:00 AM
awesome buck and a great photo!!!
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Post by: bearsfeet on November 21, 2012, 10:20:00 AM
Very nice buck    :clapper:
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Post by: Hopewell Tom on November 21, 2012, 10:21:00 AM
I was thinking of you the other day after a different Blacktail thread here.
Great looking buck and bow. Second the great pic comment. What colors!
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Post by: Sean B on November 21, 2012, 10:22:00 AM
Awesome, congrats.  They're on my bucket list.
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Post by: lilbobby on November 21, 2012, 10:26:00 AM
Great buck!   :clapper:
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Post by: Tater on November 21, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
Great Buck.......Congrats
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Post by: snag on November 21, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
That's awesome! Shooting douglas fir arrows with a Blacktail bow and killing a dandy blacktail buck...perfect!
Thanks for posting it here Ron. I'm laid up with a bum leg. Haven't been able to get out...it's killing me. But seeing this helps.
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Post by: Bel007 on November 21, 2012, 10:28:00 AM
Awsome buck.  Congrats!
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Post by: Easykeeper on November 21, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
Congratulations!

Great photo, not a bad looking bow either...   ;)    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Maxx Black on November 21, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
Great photo! I'm jealous of the light clothes your wearing and leaves on the ground . (Winter conditions here. )Good job on taking the deer. Maxx
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Post by: legends1 on November 21, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
Great job!
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Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 21, 2012, 10:48:00 AM
Nice buck Ron.    :thumbsup:    

We have gotta hook up one of these days and do some shooting or hunting together. I'm not far from you at all in Mulino.

On Saturday when the late season opened, my daughter and i were up at the snow line above Ripple Brook ranger station when that storm started blowing in... Not much moving up top.

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0025.jpg)

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0008.jpg)

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0017.jpg)

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0039.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0031.jpg)

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0044.jpg)
Title: Re: yesterday was a Blacktail day (buck & bow)
Post by: Izzy on November 21, 2012, 10:49:00 AM
They dont get much prettier than that. What a buck.
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Post by: cacciatore on November 21, 2012, 10:50:00 AM
Ron,everything look perfect in your pic:you,the buck and the bow.congrats I am glad to see you again in your woods.
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Post by: John146 on November 21, 2012, 11:15:00 AM
Man, that is a beautiful animal and you displayed that beauty in your picture deserving of the animal. Good job on all counts!
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Post by: Shan on November 21, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
Beauty!
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Post by: Tom Leemans on November 21, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
I believe I'd be happy too!
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Post by: wapiti792 on November 21, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
Way to go RON!!!   :campfire:  

The effort it takes to clean up an animal and get a good pic should never be underestimated, especially a good self-timed pic. Great story and great photo!!!
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Post by: Ted Fry on November 21, 2012, 11:46:00 AM
Nice buck Ron, good to see you out and about.
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Post by: Tree Killer on November 21, 2012, 12:09:00 PM
Thanks everybody!  

Thanks to a break in the rain I was able to set up and get some decent photos...I had field dressed and dragged the buck halfway out when it brightened up, so I went to the truck and brought back my Nikon and tri-pod. It was much darker in the timber then it looks in the photo!

Kirk...I wasn't all that far from where those photos were taken yesterday. I know all that country very well. The deer and elk population is sure taking a dive up there...compared to what it once was!
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Post by: Shedrock on November 21, 2012, 01:42:00 PM
Nice! Congrats!
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Post by: wooddamon1 on November 21, 2012, 01:52:00 PM
Beauty of a buck and great photo! Congrats!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: akaboomer on November 21, 2012, 01:52:00 PM
Outstanding!!! Wonderful buck and great photo. Thanks for sharing and congrats!

Chris
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Post by: Old Chief on November 21, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
Coongratulations, that is a very nice blacktail buck and bow.
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Post by: Old Chief on November 21, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
That would read better as: Congratulations.
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Post by: Blacktail101 on November 21, 2012, 02:07:00 PM
Wow !! congrats on a beautiful buck and pic just looking at that picture makes me feel pretty damn lucky to be able to live where we do and do what we do thanks for sharing
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Post by: Butts2 on November 21, 2012, 02:10:00 PM
great pic congrats X10
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Post by: elkken on November 21, 2012, 02:21:00 PM
Thats a mighty fine buck Ron ...    :clapper:    :clapper:  Congrats
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Post by: Longbow1953 on November 21, 2012, 02:28:00 PM
Love those Blacktails.  :thumbsup:    :archer2:
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Post by: joe ashton on November 21, 2012, 02:29:00 PM
awesome deer.
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Post by: Possum Head on November 21, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
He's very nice. Congrats
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Post by: ron w on November 21, 2012, 02:58:00 PM
Nice buck.....nice wool ....just plain nice!
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Post by: buckeye_hunter on November 21, 2012, 03:02:00 PM
Super Blacktail.  :notworthy:

Love the split tines on that guy!
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Post by: rushlush on November 21, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
Congrats!
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Post by: Pat B. on November 21, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
Well done !!!

That must be God's country..
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Post by: Ray Hammond on November 21, 2012, 03:36:00 PM
Great hunt and deer!
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Post by: kbetts on November 21, 2012, 04:53:00 PM
I love looking at Blacktails.  Congrats.
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Post by: blacktailchaser on November 21, 2012, 05:26:00 PM
WOW,that is a great deer and story...good for you old man..i beat there is back strap on your plate to night..john
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Post by: Shinken on November 21, 2012, 05:30:00 PM
MR. FRENCH!  WELL DONE!

And I really like those rattlin' antlers!

Celebrate a Happy Thanksgiving!

Shoot straight, Shinken

 :archer2:
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Post by: ishoot4thrills on November 21, 2012, 05:38:00 PM
Nice story, great buck, and a great accomplishment!

Big congrats to you, sir!

Oh yeah, excellent photography, too!
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Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 21, 2012, 05:44:00 PM
QuoteKirk...I wasn't all that far from where those photos were taken yesterday. I know all that country very well. The deer and elk population is sure taking a dive up there...compared to what it once was!  
Yup... 20 years ago you had to be careful driving at dusk or you were getting a bumper crop...

We cut two different sets of fresh mountain lion tracks up on top on Saturday. That's the first time I've seen big cat signs up in that area. Those big cats will definitely thin the deer and elk population.

That's the first time in a long time i haven't run into a herd of elk this time of year too. They are typically bunched up in large numbers and pretty hard to miss.
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Post by: drewsbow on November 21, 2012, 06:02:00 PM
congrats nice buck   :thumbsup:
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Post by: RainyDayBows on November 21, 2012, 06:12:00 PM
Congrats that's a big blacktail.
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Post by: LITTLEBIGMAN on November 21, 2012, 06:15:00 PM
wow great buck and an awesome photo!! congrats!
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Post by: jonsimoneau on November 21, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
Holy Cow!  Those Blacktails are beautiful animals, and I know the one you just took is a dandy!  Way to go!
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Post by: fujimo on November 21, 2012, 06:42:00 PM
hiya Ron( tree killer)
awesome buck- cool hunt too.
just one quick question- how do you find the response of the blacktails to rattling and other forms of calling.
we have the smaller Sitka blacktail up here, and we do really well with a fawn bleat- but i have also seen animals totally ignore it too!
just wondering what your experience was with calling these guys!
thanks
wayne
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Post by: Iowabowhunter on November 21, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
Awesome blacktail buck congrats! I would love to get to chase after them someday!
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Post by: Rick Butler on November 21, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
Nice!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Gen273 on November 21, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
Great buck and a good looking bow to boot!
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on November 21, 2012, 08:54:00 PM
Great Buck!  Congrats!
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Post by: TJK68 on November 21, 2012, 08:57:00 PM
Beautiful Buck, Congrats
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Post by: JJB on November 21, 2012, 08:59:00 PM
Nice buck and photo, well done!
 :thumbsup:
-Jay
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Post by: BrownA5 on November 21, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
Nicely done.  Congratulations!
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Post by: Manitoba Stickflinger on November 21, 2012, 10:57:00 PM
Congrats! That's gotta be one of the best pictures I've seen!
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Post by: Richie on November 22, 2012, 12:20:00 AM
Very nice buck.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Sixby on November 22, 2012, 12:31:00 AM
Congratulations once more Ron. Great buck, Great story and Great picture. I still have the pic of the one you killed , I guess two years ago, committed to memory. You take great pics bro.
God bless you and family and have a great Thanksgiving.
Kirk, those are great pics of you and your daughter. Love that country.
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Post by: Matty on November 22, 2012, 06:11:00 AM
Very cool. What a great looking buck. And man it's green there! So jealous!!
Great job
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Post by: Over&Under on November 22, 2012, 10:10:00 AM
Beautiful par of blacktails...congrats!
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Post by: BRONZ on November 22, 2012, 10:21:00 AM
He's a bruiser!  Congrats!!
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Post by: Tree Killer on November 22, 2012, 10:40:00 AM
Thanks again guys, happy you all appreciate the photo!     :)

 
QuoteOriginally posted by snag:
That's awesome! Shooting douglas fir arrows with a Blacktail bow and killing a dandy blacktail buck...perfect!
Thanks for posting it here Ron. I'm laid up with a bum leg. Haven't been able to get out...it's killing me. But seeing this helps.
Sorry to hear about the gimp David! Yeah, I made up a set of heavy spined arrows last summer for myself...heavier then I've shot in the past...they fly incredible and hit hard!
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Post by: Steve Clandinin on November 22, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
Ron,Fantastic deer,Story and picture.
My first deer ever with a bow was in 1973,a Blacktail doe.They have to be the toughest of all deer to hunt,I got a few but never did get a real nice buck,your pic brings back so many memories.thanks ever so much.
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Post by: Roughcountry on November 22, 2012, 08:47:00 PM
Great picture Ron. Those are sure pretty deer, glad to see you in your trees where your most at home. RS
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Post by: Shinken on November 22, 2012, 09:54:00 PM
Blacktails are *fun* to hunt....

Way to go Tree Killa!

Happy Thanksgiving!

Shoot straight, Shinken

 :archer2:
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Post by: coaster500 on November 22, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
I live where they live and that is a GREAT Blacktail!!!
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Post by: Steve B. on November 22, 2012, 10:59:00 PM
Congrats!...
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Post by: Tree Killer on November 23, 2012, 09:13:00 AM
Thanks guys!  Hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving.  

Steve Clandinin...I've killed a couple of whitetails, but for the better part of 45 years the Blacktail deer has been my hunting fix.
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Post by: kennym on November 23, 2012, 09:20:00 AM
Way to go Ron!! Great pic too!
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Post by: Guru on November 23, 2012, 09:35:00 AM
Happy for you Ron, great buck bud!    :clapper:
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Post by: mb bowman on November 23, 2012, 05:21:00 PM
That is a beast of a blacktail! Congrats!
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Post by: Steve Clandinin on November 23, 2012, 06:46:00 PM
Hey Ron,shot lots of Huge mulies and some real nice Whitetails but it seamed sneaking up to a good blacktail was the toughest.My Dad passed this year and all those great times hunting blackies were with him,it seams to add to the Memories of both My Dad and the deer.
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Post by: HawkeyeArcher on November 25, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Well done on the deer!
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Post by: BUCK-EYE on November 25, 2012, 09:23:00 AM
:thumbsup:  Very nice!
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Post by: twitchstick on November 25, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
Congrats!
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Post by: Stump_pounder on November 25, 2012, 11:59:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Kirkll:
Nice buck Ron.     :thumbsup:    

We have gotta hook up one of these days and do some shooting or hunting together. I'm not far from you at all in Mulino.

On Saturday when the late season opened, my daughter and i were up at the snow line above Ripple Brook ranger station when that storm started blowing in... Not much moving up top.

  (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0025.jpg)

  (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0008.jpg)

  (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0017.jpg)

  (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0039.jpg)

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Hunting%20pics/late%20hunt%202012/SANY0031.jpg)

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I drove right past that van in the picks LOL the boy and I were up there trying to rattle one in . only saw a doe.
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Post by: Bowhunter4life on November 25, 2012, 01:31:00 PM
Very nice Blacktail!  Both buck and bow!  Congrats!
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Post by: Jerry Jeffer on November 25, 2012, 02:13:00 PM
That is a real nice buck, Congrats!
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Post by: Bernie B. on November 25, 2012, 02:25:00 PM
Boy, that is a good one!  I love the color of those antlers!  Congratulations not only on a fine buck, but for an incredible photo also!     :clapper:

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
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Post by: frassettor on November 25, 2012, 02:46:00 PM
Beautiful deer, great job  :readit:    :notworthy:    :clapper:
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Post by: Tree Killer on March 04, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
My son made a walnut wall mount for my buck skull and we got it all mounted and hung this weekend. I think it turned out great!    :)  

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/treekiller/DSC_4658_zps2e2b9c4e.jpg)
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Post by: Old Chief on March 04, 2013, 02:40:00 PM
You and your son do excellent work!
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Post by: BUCK-EYE on March 04, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
very nice  :thumbsup:
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Post by: bob@helleknife.com on March 04, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
Ron,

NICE!!

Bob
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Post by: NormanDale33 on March 04, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
sweet! That is a nice blacktail. I have never seen anything close to that here in Washington. Nice mount.
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Post by: South MS Bowhunter on March 04, 2013, 08:06:00 PM
Very nice buck!
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Post by: scedvm on March 04, 2013, 11:41:00 PM
That buck, your bow and your mount are all very impressive.  I have never hunted blacktails but sure hope too one day.  Congrats....Shawn
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Post by: Doug Campbell on March 05, 2013, 12:45:00 AM
Oh man, love everything about that. Congratulations!
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Post by: stujay on March 05, 2013, 12:50:00 AM
That is a beautiful blacktail. Congrats on the sucess of your hunt.
Also love the mount, looks great on the wall!
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Post by: Tree Killer on March 05, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
Thank you gentlemen!
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Post by: Steve Jr on March 05, 2013, 08:50:00 PM
Thanks for the story, and Congrats on a awesome buck.