I found a Black Widow MA III locally for a very reasonable price. It is a 67# draw at 28 inches. I shoot 50# at 28 inches with no real problems.
How much pain am I going to have going from 50# to 67#?
Given the price $550 I might buy the bow and get 55# limbs.
thanks
Doug
That's a BIG jump!
No, that's a HUGE jump...
Do you have anybody close to you that has a bow close to that draw weight you could try out? Yes, that's a big jump, but maybe you can actually handle it. Never know till you try.
I'm trying to work up to 65# from 55, and that is a big jump. From 50 to 67 is an awful lot.
Shoot it and see how it feels.
That is a big jump but it is possible. Keep shooting your 50# bow every day as well as drawing but not shooting the 67# as many times as you can comfortably. When you feel you can hold the 67# bow back for 10 seconds without shaking then start shooting it. Just take it slow maybe shoot 5 arrows the first week with it and slowly increase until you feel proficient with it.
I made a bow that turned out at 67#. It took alot of practice shooting it along with my 53#er. I got to were I could shoot it fairly well in about 2 months.
I'd say the reason the bow is priced right is because of the weight.
Unless your young and planned for some,reason to shoot that weight I'll suggest looking for a deal on a little less weight.
There are always deals out there.
Thanks Guys.
I should stick with the plan and stay with the 50-55# range.
Interestingly I had the shakes when going from the 40 to 50#.
Again thanks of the reality check
Thats a good price. Buy it, try it and if you cant shoot it you may make money selling it?
Very good advice from Macbow. If you take your time you can usally find a decent deal. 50lbs will take most any game, and its alot easier to shoot.
QuoteOriginally posted by YORNOC:
Thats a good price. Buy it, try it and if you cant shoot it you may make money selling it?
Plan B is to buy the bow and get a set of limbs which would put me into it for what the used bows are selling for....
You need to go up in weight gradually, if at all. 17 lbs is too much at once IMHO. 5-10 lbs at a time is the most i'd try. Too much at once and you could mess up you're shoulder and maybe have to drop down to 30#, or quit archery all together. 50# @28" will kill any animal in North America, why do you feel the need to upgrade?
QuoteOriginally posted by randy grider:
You need to go up in weight gradually, if at all. 17 lbs is too much at once IMHO. 5-10 lbs at a time is the most i'd try. Too much at once and you could mess up you're shoulder and maybe have to drop down to 30#, or quit archery all together. 50# @28" will kill any animal in North America, why do you feel the need to upgrade?
The price of a Black Widow for sale locally for $550 caught my eye, I was concerned about the weight. You all confirmed my concern and I am passing on the Black Widow for $550.
Almost a 22% increase. That's like going from dating a 125 pound girl to a 152 pound girl. BIG jump.
I shoot 55# all day but a 65# bow was beyond me.
I went from 50lbs to 65lbs over a period of about 3 months.
I would shoot the 50lb bow for 10-20 shots to get warmed up. Then I could draw the heavy bow a few times.
Eventually I would shoot 5 arrows a day with the heavy bow. Then 10 per day, then 20....and so on.
Draw the heavy one and try to learn to hold as long as you can. You may find that after shooting the heavy bow, you actually shoot your lighter one better.
Brett
That is a big jump in weight IMO. I went from ~50lbs this summer to 54lbs for hunting this fall and have a 57lb morrison coming to try and work into. Taking my time and working my way up seems to work well.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Whitetail Chaser:
I went from 50lbs to 65lbs over a period of about 3 months.
I would shoot the 50lb bow for 10-20 shots to get warmed up. Then I could draw the heavy bow a few times.
Eventually I would shoot 5 arrows a day with the heavy bow. Then 10 per day, then 20....and so on.
Draw the heavy one and try to learn to hold as long as you can. You may find that after shooting the heavy bow, you actually shoot your lighter one better.
Brett
I am in the process of doing this exact thing and this is what I am doing.
You will progress faster if you shoot every other day. Any form of muscular development requires rest and recuperation days between exertion days.
Its no different than weight training. I would suggest you shoot the heavy bow a few times until you begin to tire every other day. On the same day you shoot the heavy bow after you tire put it down and do some pushups. Do as many as you are comfortable with even if its only two or three, then get up and walk around for three to four minutes then repeat until you get to a number like 20 total. Add to the total number as your strength increases.
Do nothing strenous on the off days.
Obviously the pushup numbers will vary based on your starting strength. I do two or three hundred twice a week in sets of 30- 50 while I walk my dogs. Sounds like a lot but when I started I just did sets of 10 reps and it was hard to do a total of 50.
I am 60 and easily shoot 70 lbs
I agree that's a monumental increase.
I don't know whether it was carrying too much lumber or trying to shoot a 59# Predator when I was used to a 52# Predator but it cost me one year of recurve hunting in 2009.
Hi Doug,
I'm Forrest. I'm here to tell you that you can and will do just fine with your proposed 17# jump if you decide to do so. Here's what I would suggest: Begin shooting your current bow more and more. If your current practice session is 50 arrows ease it up to 75, then 100, then 150. This will build endurance in the muscle groups which will be necessary for the building of the muscle mass needed to draw the increased load. When you do receive the heavier bow, work it into your practice session after a good pre-stretch and warmup exercises. I like to follow the rule of only going down in weight during practice. When you are over bowed in the beginning, I cannot stress this enough. The inability of the mind to get over the noticeable increase in workload when the body is tired causes recruitment of often unprepared muscle groups and creates an inroad for potential injury. I set goals of six shots and later twelve shots, sticking strictly to the limit and stopping at the slightest discomfort. Stretching at the end of the session is helpful to avoid discomfort and soreness later.
The biggest thing I would stress is that you and you alone decide what is doable or too much. Their will always be someone to tell you that you can't or shouldn't. God never made a naysayer that could keep quiet. Believe you can do it and you will do just fine with your bump.
I'm no health and fitness expert, but I was able to increase my draw by fifty pounds using this method over six months time and was injury free. I wish you the best whatever you decide.
Forrest
Doug your situation is funny because I just did the exact same thing your describing. I'm 22 now but when I was younger the first traditional bow I ever shot was a 60# longbow. It was a bit much but I could handle it because I was strong and working out my back and shoulders for college football. I eventually sold that bow and started shooting my 50# bear kodiak. I have been hunting with this bow for the past few years but recently I bought a 70# SAII for 400 bucks online. I thought it was a decent deal, but I had to get one of the limb tips repaired by Widow. But anyway making this jump so far hasnt been too difficult. Just like some of the guys here said if you just practice a few arrows with it everyday it should be fine after a couple months. The 70#er is definately a hoss to draw compared to the 50#er but man it really zips an arrow. Good Luck with your decision! :thumbsup:
Big jump. I went up 5 lbs. from 50# to 55# and it took me two months to get to where I was with the 50 lbs.