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Title: Tried Something New - Kayak, Bow, 'n Roll
Post by: Adam Keiper on November 18, 2012, 07:50:00 PM
I took all my "toys" to my stomping grounds today and had a blast with all of it; bow, musket, kayak, and assorted bushcraftavetry.  After some kayak roll practice with my Greenland paddle, I decided to see if I could roll up with a paddle bow (thinking that I might be able to coast inverted into a flock of geese, and then roll up for a jump shot).  A 50" bow sure doesn't give much roll lift, (about halfway between a Greenland paddle and a norsaq), but my first two tries were successful, which were caught on film.      :D      Bless my oldest for filming.  He was freezing and just wanted to run up to Grandma's house.  Haha!

  http://youtu.be/z2CrvrWbzj4
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Post by: Razorbak on November 18, 2012, 07:54:00 PM
now that is cool!!!!
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Post by: Tsalt on November 18, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
Looks like fun,
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Post by: kwc on November 18, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
dont know what to say, but if you could strap the bow with the arrow nocked on the deck and roll with your hands?
Title: Re: Tried Something New - Kayak, Bow, 'n Roll
Post by: Dave Bulla on November 18, 2012, 08:13:00 PM
How hard is it to shoot with the facemask on?
Title: Re: Tried Something New - Kayak, Bow, 'n Roll
Post by: Adam Keiper on November 18, 2012, 11:07:00 PM
Yeah, having a reliable handroll might help.  I'm working on rolls with just a norsaq right now, and handrolls are more miss than hit...at least until warm weather returns and I can squeeze barefoot back into my skin-on-frame.  

I thought afterwards that it might be possible to roll with an arrow on the bowstring.  Hmmm.  Shooting with dive mask on is no sweat.  I wear a mask or at least a nose clip for roll practice, since fresh water sinus flushes are just painfull!
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Post by: Shaun on November 18, 2012, 11:10:00 PM
Now that's EXTREME! Very nice bow.
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Post by: BigBucksnTrucks on November 18, 2012, 11:32:00 PM
That's pretty wild! Do you paddle upside down or drift in to the flock, if you see a big fish while your down there do you shoot it? Lol
Title: Re: Tried Something New - Kayak, Bow, 'n Roll
Post by: Steve Kendrot on November 19, 2012, 12:10:00 AM
How long can you hold your breath?!
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Post by: on November 19, 2012, 03:18:00 AM
You would have to do something to camo-ise the bottom of the boat.  I know a couple of guys that noticed a lot of ducks on a stretch of river when the local duck ponds were getting hunted hard.  they made a blind for a canoe and did a lazy low in the boat drift and got there limits easily.  They thought that it was so easy that they could do it with thier bows. Problem was, one of them shot a nice eight pointer in the first mile, which ended the bow hunt for ducks.
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Post by: AkDan on November 19, 2012, 04:01:00 AM
I have a greenland skin on how to build kayak book on my nightstand.  Looking up materials as we speak, thats way cool!  

steve...no need to hold it, use a straw lol.
Title: Re: Tried Something New - Kayak, Bow, 'n Roll
Post by: bicster on November 19, 2012, 05:02:00 AM
Nice roll! I have been a whitewater kayak instructor for years and have never seen anyone perform a "bow" roll.
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on November 19, 2012, 05:32:00 AM
That is pretty cool. looks cold.
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Post by: adkmountainken on November 19, 2012, 07:26:00 AM
WOW just WOW.... don't see that every day.
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Post by: Big Ed on November 19, 2012, 08:54:00 AM
Very cool!!
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Post by: paul87250 on November 19, 2012, 11:32:00 AM
i'm well impressed!!   :thumbsup:
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Post by: ti-guy on November 19, 2012, 11:36:00 AM
cool!  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: snakewood3 on November 19, 2012, 01:25:00 PM
Yer havin' way too much fun !!
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Post by: gregg dudley on November 19, 2012, 02:16:00 PM
I'm seeing the next Navy Seal commercial here.  :thumbsup:

Pretty cool.  How long do you anticipate drifting and how are you going to know when you are "there"?  
  :archer2:
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Post by: Duker on November 19, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
W  :D  W
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Post by: jsweka on November 19, 2012, 07:17:00 PM
That was really cool, but how do you keep your fletching dry?
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Post by: Adam Keiper on November 19, 2012, 09:02:00 PM
Ak, Dan, Build that SOF qajaq!  It takes quite a bit longer than building a selfbow, but you'll have a handmade custom craft in the end, that weighs half that of a fiberglass sea kayak.  (FYI, from my experience with 2 Greenland qajaqs; if you're building a Greenland roller, my advise is to build it width-of-hips wide and no more, with a snug zero-clearance masik, yet big enough under the foredeck to allow wearing booties instead of bare tootsies.  Might save you from eventually wanting to re-build one, or making a third.)     :saywhat:
Title: Re: Tried Something New - Kayak, Bow, 'n Roll
Post by: Adam Keiper on November 19, 2012, 09:07:00 PM
"Pretty cool. How long do you anticipate drifting and how are you going to know when you are "there"?"  ...By calculating the airspeed velocity of a swallow carrying a coconut, of course!

Oh, yes, and for serious inverted kayak goose hunting, a silly straw snorkel or traditional hollow wooden bilge might be a must!  Icy, wet fletchings be darned!
Title: Re: Tried Something New - Kayak, Bow, 'n Roll
Post by: Goshawkin on November 19, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Keiper:
Oh, yes, and for serious inverted kayak goose hunting, a silly straw snorkel or traditional hollow wooden bilge is a must!
and some bail money if the warden catches ya!  :eek:  

you can't hunt waterfowl from anything that conceals you under the surface of the water.  :nono: ,
Title: Re: Tried Something New - Kayak, Bow, 'n Roll
Post by: Adam Keiper on November 19, 2012, 09:31:00 PM
Darn, might have to disguise the kayak as a trojan rabbit instead...    :rolleyes:
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Post by: Goshawkin on November 19, 2012, 09:37:00 PM
Trogan Mallard might get you closer to the geese.  :p
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Post by: Brianlocal3 on November 19, 2012, 10:20:00 PM
that was just too cool
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Post by: joe ashton on November 20, 2012, 12:16:00 AM
this summer was my 25th year kayaking, and I got on the river 65 days.  Never once did I ever consider trying to roll my Jackson 'rock star'  with my Black widow long bow.  Nope never even crossed my mined.  But now that I've seen you do it I DON'T HAVE TO.  Thanks
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Post by: Richie on November 20, 2012, 12:27:00 AM
That was awesome, good job.